Five Reasons Why Designers Developers are Switching to Mac

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Designers and developers have many choices to make when it comes to getting work done, from what frameworks, languages, and image editing software to use, to what platform to run. The latter is an oft debated and controversial topic and the mere mention of it risks setting off flame wars of epic proportions, so in the interest of sanity, we’ll try to avoid any direct comparisons to other operating systems.

It’s no secret that there has been a growing trend in recent years toward developers, especially of the web variety, choosing a Mac as their main dev machine. In this two-part series, we will examine some of the reasons behind this trend, look at some of the pitfalls of switching to the Mac, and go over the must-have software and configurations every switcher should be aware of.

First Reason for Switching: Mac OS X

You may have noticed the rise in the number of colleagues and fellow developers who are choosing a Mac as their next computer. If you haven’t, you’re probably either working for Microsoft or you have an MBA. So why is it so compelling?

If you were to ask a die-hard Windows user why he or she thinks people like Macs, they would almost invariably say the reasons are purely about aesthetics. If you were to ask most web developers why they have switched to a mac, however, the refrain would be loud and unanimous: OSX. To be fair to Windows, in terms of raw capability the two offerings differ very little; with enough elbow grease, both systems can be configured in pretty much any way its users wish.

When pressured to explain why they prefer OSX, Mac users often rest on qualifiable and subjective arguments such as “it feels intuitive” or “I enjoy using it more” or even “I can’t explain why I like it better, I just do.” The Windows user, when presented with these arguments, usually rolls his or her eyes and continues on their way. It isn’t until someone truly makes up their own mind to give OSX an honest chance that they can understand what all the fuss is about.

A Few Quantifiable Benefits of OS X include:

1. Open Source Friendly

As a web developer, if there’s one skill you invariably have to develop, it’s the use of a *NIX terminal. Luckily, because OSX is built on top of UNIX, the terminal is ready and waiting. Every Apple ships with a wide variety of open source programming tools and frameworks built in such as PHP, Apache, and Ruby on Rails. Linux users who have grown tired of dealing with hardware issues, especially on laptops, often choose a Mac as their portable solution because it is UNIX based.

It means that the entire world of open source software out there is pretty much guaranteed to run without much hassle. In a world where open source software is a way of life, web developers need a friendly environment to operate in.

2. Quartz Extreme

Quartz is the OpenGL powered windowing system used by OSX. Quartz extreme utilizes the graphics card exclusively, which means no processor cycles are taxed. This allows for a variety of useful features such as Exposé, which dynamically resizes every window on the screen giving you a bird’s eye view of your entire workspace.

Spaces, a feature introduced in OSX 10.5 (Leopard) takes the bird’s eye view a step further by providing a view of multiple desktops. To further illustrate the point, you can activate Exposé inside Spaces and drag these windows from desktop to desktop – any videos that are playing will continue to play and the windows will dynamically resize to accommodate the extra window. Once you get used to this sort of thing, you wonder how you ever lived without it.

3. Core Animation

Core animation provides a way for developers to produce animated user interfaces via an implicit animation model as well as an ‘explicit’ model. In other words, it means some very flashy and useful features are going to start showing up in OS X applications much like the animated menu help system shown in the graphic above. Prodiving developers with a toolset to implement these types of animated effects means software will become more intuitive.

4. Built-in Tools

There are so many useful tools that are built in to the Mac that come in handy for designers and developers that it’s easy to see OSX was built with developers and creative professionals in mind. Take the built-in screen capturing utility “Grab” for OSX, which has a wide variety of options, from selecting down to the pixel the area you want to screenshot, to providing window captures complete with the window frame, to outputting directly to the desktop as a .PNG file.

In fact, some tools were created specifically for designers because Apple has long catered to the creative professional market (indeed, it sustained Apple during their darkest times). More built in tools include:

  • The Digital Color Meter – a tool that allows you to grab the color value of any pixel on your screen.
  • Console – Useful for viewing very large log files
  • Terminal – Mentioned above, complete with many OSS tools like VIM
  • XCode Tools – The Apple development IDE
  • Zoom – easy-as-pie down-to-the-pixel zooming
  • Safari Debug Mode – Similar to Firebug for Firefox
  • Time Machine – dead simple automated backups

5. Unified User Interface

As any student of design knows, consistency is one of the most important principles to adhere to, and it is clear the OSX UI was designed with this in mind. Because of the strict user interface guidelines provided by the Apple software development tools, applications and utilities on a Mac feel like they are all part of the same system.

The menu bar, which for some switchers can be a difficult feature to get used to, adheres to this unification by standardizing the location and layout of the menu options. Drag-and-drop functionality is ubiquitous. Being able to do things like drag an image off your web browser directly into your Photoshop project are a boon to productivity. If it feels as though you should be able to drag-and-drop something, you probably can.

6. Security

Now before you crack your knuckles and start composing your diatribe about why Macs aren’t any more secure than PCs, let me point out a trite but undebatable fact: there’s simply less malware out there for Macs than PCs – a LOT less (partly because Unix is inherently more secure than Windows and partly because Windows is just more wide-spread and Mac users aren’t targeted that often – read more in the article Is The Mac Really More Secure Than Windows?1). If you are on a Mac, at least for the next few more years, you can pretty much rest assured your days of worrying about virus and spyware scans are a thing of the past.

7. Textmate, Growl, Quicksilver, and more

There is no shortage of text editors available to developers, but one that seems to keep coming up in recommendation after recommendation is Textmate, the lightweight GUI text editor for OSX. The project management drawer makes it easy to keep track of folders, which for monolithic MVC frameworks like Ruby on Rails and CakePHP is a godsend.

Nested scopes allow users to create their own syntax highlighting which is important in the ever changing world of web development. To speed up the development process, one can utilize “snippets” or pieces of reusable code that can be inserted with a few key strokes. While there aren’t any features that are revolutionary, they are combined in a way that makes for a very unobtrusive coding experience that seems very in tune with the overall feel of a Mac.

In addition to Textmate, there is a whole host of other beloved applications that seem to have been created by people who truly understand and want to emulate the Mac experience, like the quick-launch solution Quicksilver, the system notifications app Growl, and the chat client Adium. These are pieces of software of a caliber that is sometimes difficult to find on Windows. It seems that quality, not quantity, is the best way to describe the Mac software library.

8. Quick Look

OS X not only has icons that display an actual miniature version of the file they are representing, but it’s possible to view the contents of the file in their full glory without having to launch the program they are associated with simply by hitting the space bar. Furthermore, if a group of icons are highlighted, they can be expanded into a gallery view.

9. Virtualization

OSX is the only OS you can get that can virtualize all three major operating systems out of the box. This is a must have for checking browser compatibility. To make life even easier, you can do it right from within OSX using programs like Parallels, Virtualbox, and VMWare Fusion. And if you think web browsers render websites exactly the same regardless of the operating system they’re running on you are sorely mistaken.

Second Reason for Switching: Intel Inside

When Apple made the switch to Intel chips, it upset a lot of Mac fans out there who liked the fact that Apple wasn’t the same as any other X86 box on the market. With the rise in mobile computing, however, Apple was forced to face the fact that the PowerPC wasn’t offering as good a solution as Intel.

They also knew that by offering a system that could run Windows in addition to OS X they would put to rest any compatibility arguments. It turned out to be a good strategical move, and droves of would-be switchers were finally able to take the plunge without being forced to give up their entire libraries of Windows-based software.

OSX can virtualize all three major operating systems out of the box. This is a must have for checking browser compatibility. To make life even easier, you can do it right from within OSX using programs like Parallels, Virtualbox, and VMWare Fusion. And if you think web browsers render websites exactly the same regardless of the operating system they’re running on you are sorely mistaken.

Third Reason for Switching: Less Hassle

Opinionated Software

Some people like hassle. In fact, developers typically love getting their hands dirty customizing, maintaining, and tweaking their operating systems. If you fall under this category, Linux is probably your best fit, followed by Windows. OS X is more opinionated than other platforms. It’s more difficult to customize its look and feel, there’s no easy way to get it to run on anything but Apple hardware, and OS X can be very particular about the way certain things are done.

Opionated software, however, can have its benefits. While it may be more difficult to customize and hack every last aspect of your OS, sometimes it can be nice to have a system where a good many of these choices have already been made for you. Because Apple provides a complete solution, from the operating system to the hardware to a lot of the software that’s bundled in, they have an easier go of making sure the experience is seemless and well tested. Opinionated software can be a very polarizing concept, however.

Take Ruby on Rails for instance, a web development framework where many decisions are made for the developer based on the core contributors’ opinions about best practices. Rails has a preferred javascript framework, database ORM, templating system, and more. You can choose other configurations if you want to, but it shines brightest when you do things the “Rails Way.”

You spend less time customizing and more time actually developing. This hands-off approach can be a major turn off for some developers, but for others it removes a lot of the hassle and reinventing of the wheel. The high rate of Mac ownership among Rails developers could be directly attributed to the analogous nature of Apple and Rails. The analogy is made more apt by any number of PHP vs Ruby on Rails flame wars you can find out there.

Support

Because Apple provides the whole solution, they are obligated to provide support for the whole solution as well. Most developers are perfectly willing to trouble shoot their own computers, but when deadlines need to be met it can be nice knowing that you can offload some of that hassle to people who already know the system inside and out.

Apple has impressive customer service specifically because they support the entire system, rather than just one aspect of the system. It’s also handy to be able to take your machine into an actual brick-and-mortar store rather than deal with outsourced phone support.

Let’s face it, when it comes to a non-technical spouse or family member, we can expect to do a lot of troubleshooting. Just like its nice not to have to worry about troubleshooting your own computer, it’s even nicer not to have to worry as much about other people’s computers. It is reasonable to assume that because Macs typically have less security issues (at least for now), there’s less time spent trying to explain how to avoid malware and actually removing it.

Fourth Reason for Switching: Microsoft

If you like it or not: a big reason why developers have been flocking to Apple is in part due to the fact that it isn’t the big M. When personal computing was still in its infancy, the reverse was true. Microsoft understood that it was the developers (developers developers) that would make their OS successful while Apple’s closed model ended up being a huge mistake.

Once Microsoft started dominating the marketplace, however, the pungent stench of monopoly sparked the open source movement, and more and more developers were starting to wonder if there were better options out there.

Linux is of course the golden child of the open source movement, but despite the efforts of Ubuntu it is still a ways off in terms of being a turnkey solution for most people. Enter Apple: a Unix based system that despite being every bit as closed as Microsoft, is in large part the antithesis of Microsoft.

Microsoft software has the unfortunate feeling of having been designed by committee. Features are packed in with little regard to their usefulness, and aesthetics are seemingly an afterthought. When Vista first launched, the Aero user interface was so flashy it required higher end machines to even run it, somewhat defeating the argument Microsoft was making about the affordability of PCs. OSX was designed to run as well on the most expensive Mac Pro as it would an eight year old Powerbook because they control the solution from hardware to software.

Unfortunately, Windows doesn’t come bundled with PHP, Rails, or any other open-source web development frameworks or languages any time soon. More and more of what we do is in the cloud these days anyways and it is almost starting to feel quaint when you come across new software that runs solely as a desktop client. Microsoft has painted themselves into a corner – they rely on closed formats and standards in a world where open source software, open formats, and open standards are king.

Fifth Reason For Switching: Design and Minimalism

Good design gets out of the way. It doesn’t demand to be seen or appreciated. Most of all, good design is something you don’t even notice at first. Bang & Olufsen understands this, and Apple understands this. As of this writing, there are only two styles of Apple notebook: silver and white, and white is only available in the cheapest configuration. Apple notebooks are free of stickers, screws, vents, buttons, switches, and graphics.

What this leaves is a system with little to look at other than the screen in front of you, which is as it should be. The benefit of the entire product development cycle being done under one house is that Apple creates a system that truly feels as though it was created by one person.

At the heart of Apple’s design philosophy is the concept of minimalism. It is a concept that has worked well for companies such as Google. We all remember the gratuitous placement of links and ads on most search engines before Google came around with its simple search bar. After all, it was the search that was the important part, not the content the provider was hoping we would want. Apple figures if not including a feature angers 1% of their consumer base but makes things easier for the other 99% it’s probably worth doing.

Take, for instance, the lack of a second mouse buttom. It may seem like a glaring omission on Apple’s part, but it has had some unintended consequences: because developers can’t simple throw commands into a bloated right-click menu they are forced to think more about the one-click usability of their applications.

Minimalist design has its downsides too, however. Macs lack card readers, often have 2-3 less USB ports than even low end machines, and are typically difficult to customize. For those of you who value a product that gives you many choices, Apple is going to fall short. It is often pointed out that upgrading a Mac is easy: “Just throw it away and buy a new one.”

Humor aside, this isn’t too far from the truth but the good news is that Macs hold their value better than any computer on the market. Instead of throwing it away, sell it on Ebay for healthy head-start on a new machine.

Mac’s Pitfalls

It’s not all sunshine and rainbows for everyone who switches to a Mac. There are the inevitable bumps in the road that everyone experiences when making a major platform change, and for some people these bumps are outright road blocks. Here’s what to be aware of:

1. Control is now Command

Breaking the habit of using control as the main modifier key on your system can take a bit of time and some people never quite get the hang of it. Old habits die hard and muscle memory dies harder. This is a problem that can be solved by re-mapping command to the control key, but when you are using a system that assumes a certain configuration you may run into confusion later on.

2. No Second Mouse Button

Unless you use an external mouse with your Apple laptop you will have to get used to the lack of a second mouse button. The truth is there is no optimal number of mouse buttons. Luckily, you can enable right-clicking in a number of ways on a mac, such as tapping the track pad with two fingers simultaneously or holding ctrl when clicking.

3. No Maximizing of Windows

This is actually starting to become less true as time goes on as ex-Windows users who develop software for the Mac include the feature (for instance, maximize on firefox for the Mac works as expected). But the typical maximize you are used to in Windows cannot be found on the Mac, and for some this can be extremely frustrating. In fact, the whole “stop-light” window controls can at times feel stale and unintuitive.

4. Lack of an “affordable” Mac

Perhaps the most popular sticking point of non-Mac users, price is always at the heart of the debate. Under $1200 or so, there is no question that byte for byte, ghz for ghz, you can get a better raw value by avoiding Apple. Apple has chosen not to enter the sub $1000 PC not because it doesn’t want to grow sales, but because it wants to avoid the dogfight that Sony, HP, and other brands are in for the lower end market.

Profit margins are razor thin in that range, after all. Apple is certainly catering to the botique style consumer. If you are pinching pennies these days the price issue may just be the one pitfall you can’t bring yourself to overcome.

5. Much Smaller Software Library

While this is somewhat mediated by the fact that you can virtualize Windows on a Mac, it is a far cry from being able to run your favorite programs natively on your system. If you are using software on a regular basis that only runs in the Windows environment, you may want to think hard about whether moving to a Mac is worth the trouble.

6. You Can’t Build a Mac (Easily)

Part of the success of Windows was the fact that they licensed it to run on any PC, anywhere. Apple has been closed since the word go, save a brief period where they allowed Mac clones to exist in what turned out to be a devastatingly bad idea. If you’re the type who loves building your own PC from scratch, a Mac is not going to offer much for you.

In general, even the most jaded Windows user is inevitably going to miss at least a few features or aspects of Windows during their switch to a Mac. The best policy to follow is to keep an open mind during the learning process. Try doing things “the Mac way” for a week and keep your skepticism to a minimum.

Above all, ask questions before you make assumptions. There’s a fervent Apple community out there (in case you haven’t noticed) that have solutions for every issue you find, thanks in part to the fact that most of them are switchers themselves. Remember, if you’re having the issue, chances are good some other switcher experienced it before you and created or found a solution.

Conclusion

While not the right solution for everyone, it’s clear that many people are switching to a Mac these days for a good many reasons. Nevertheless, Macs are expensive and require user’s patience and willingness to adapt his or her behavior to a compltely different interface. Mac is certainly not an option for every user, but it is definitely an option worth considering – particularly for designers or developers.

Join us in Part 2 of this series where we examine some of the must have software, configurations, and tricks that every new Mac user should know about. Please feel free to subscribe to our RSS-feed2 Subscribe to our RSS-feed3 and follow us on Twitter4 Follow us on Twitter5.

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  1. 1

    You know – if you are bogging down in your operating system – you aren’t ready for Photoshop.

    I use both – and could care less really – just get me in my application, give me a good graphics tablet and monitor.

    Been at this a long time – routinely do high-end design work, and find this minutia of which platform is better annoying. So a kid in Bangladesh is handicapped because he can only afford a PC – classic OS elitism.

    Take that extra money you save by working in Linux and take a drawing class.

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    Jean-Baptiste Jung

    April 26, 2009 2:21 pm

    Excellent article! Microsoft is like McDonald’s: nasty for your health ;)

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    Mac looks fancy and all, but I’m a die hard Windows fan. I may get a Mac if I win the lottery.

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    Mihai Moscovici

    April 26, 2009 2:23 pm

    Thanks for a balanced review!

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    What designers AREN’T using Mac? I’m from a small city in Tennessee and I don’t know ANY designers that aren’t using Mac.

    I understand that some must be using PCs but that headline just sounds funny to me.

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    thanks so much i will get mac very soon

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    Thank you for the first really BALANCED review – most similar articles are biased by Mac or Win-fans. THANKS.

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    How lame.

    I am a freelancer since 1989 – using both Macs & PC. Maybe five but certainly ten years ago there were REAL reasons to use a Mac: better fonts, better applications, better hardware (how that has changed – Macs are basically Intel clones today and Apple’s production standards have slipped in some products) more stable production environment. Today Photoshop is Photoshop (or any other important design tool) – no matter on which box you run it on.

    A good designer delivers good work NO MATTER which tool he uses – even when it’s only pen and paper. Stop that techno & brand fetishism – do some good work instead.

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    Forgot to mention that Mac’s are not for gamer’s either. I’m a designer AND a gamer too.

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    we’d love to get macs for our studio, but its not the price, software or any geek loyalty that prevents us – it’s the internal technical skills. connecting the macs to the windows active directory, nas server etc isnt something we’ve never done – and help from google isn’t really the kind of reliability we can afford to risk. if something goes wrong – we can’t fix it at the speed and cost we can with a PC. however, we’re getting closer to making the jump!

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    Dieter Mueller, you make a good point. Good designers deliver good work no matter what tool they use, but some tools are more usable than others and some environments are better than the others. With the same logic, you could just use Notepad instead of PHP Eclipse for coding which is not right, isn’t it?

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  12. 12

    Pros and Cons to both sides of the argument. About personal preference in this day and age. Very nice little article though. Thanks alot.

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    Christopher Wagar

    April 26, 2009 2:37 pm

    I am SO impressed! I switched to a mac about 2 years ago, but it was all on a whim. Everyone I talked to was either heavily anti-mac, or a fanatic. I wanted a balanced idea of what I was getting myself into, but all I got was a look at the childish ego-war that exists between mac and pc fans. I wish there was an article like this back then! As it turns out, I do prefer mac, but I’m well-aware of it’s shortcomings. Thanks again!

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    Wow. That’s so cool that you chose to insult your readers and make assumptions in your opening paragraph.

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    This is all a matter of preference. I prefer to design on a PC because my audience will view my work (most likely) on a PC. There is no end all tool out there that you can get for a Mac or a PC which makes either any better than the other.

    In fact I would rather sand my hands off and try and win a push up contest than partake in an argument about why one is better than the other.

    It is like Coke and Pepsi, they are both softdrinks, but which do you prefer.

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    I started designing audodidactically with a PC. I’d have to say that at the time, I had no idea how much better a Mac would be, but when I am forced to get back on them now for presentation purposes, I find basic navigation on a PC counter-intuitive. I think that’s my biggest beef with PCs. To each their own.

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    Anyone not using Mac for design already doesn’t know that they don’t know yet.

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    I use XP on the classic theme.

    notepad++, dreamweaver, photoshop…all run nicely.

    plus i enjoy playing games

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    Well said, but perhaps this article still comes off as needless Windows bashing. Windows is a viable option for people who need raw power at an inexpensive price. With talent – yes talent – you can achieve the same designs on OSX, Windows, and Linux machines.

    That said, all three operating systems have their pros and cons. Try them all and use what you like. Personally, I’m happy doing the “psd shows as a preview” tweak in Windows 7 and calling it a day.

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    …this isn’t really about designers, per se, as much as a general “OSX is cool” article.

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    As a mac user, I switched mainly because Final Cut was becoming the standard for video editing, and there was no elegant way of getting less-experienced editors my motion graphics work without it and its stable of codecs.

    I love using the Mac.

    However, there seems to be this constantly-supressed reality that people keep ignoring, which is that even with the latest versions of Adobe’s suite, Windows still runs Photoshop, Flash, and AfterEffects way faster than on OSX.

    EVEN VISTA runs AfterEffects faster, and Photoshop and AfterEffects both take longer to start up on my 2008 iMac with 2.8 ghz and 4 gigs of ram than on my 4 year old PC running Windows XP home.

    If you don’t notice this enough to put it as even a miniscule part of the reason why one wouldn’t use OSX, then I think I know which side of the form/function argument you fall under.

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  22. 22

    I started with windows and am yet to be convinced that Macs are better then my PC. Mac repairs are an issue and very expensive as technicians are hard to find in the rural landscape. I still need a debate that challengers my opinion. that Macs and Pcs are like cars. Mac’s are the sports car model (Designer ego) with PC’s being family cars that do the same job minus the ego.

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    The biggest problem for possible switchers is probably Apple’s relatively high prices. I’ve been there myself, after having been a hardcore Windows user for over ten years.

    However, when I finally switched to a Mac, all of a sudden the extra euros I did pay we’re forgotten: this machine works so much better!

    Best reasons: it doesn’t get slower, there is no blue screen, there are no viruses, malware et cetera and its beauty! Buy one!

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    I’ve been a graphic designer, illustrator, and now flash developer for the past 10+ years all on the PC. I agree with Dieter that good designers will turn out good work regardless of platform. I think it has more to do with ease of use than anything that people in general, not just designers, are turning to the Mac. Sure, aesthetics play a big part and being a designer I applaud Apple for having a great sense of it when it comes to UI and industrial design, but that’s just the surface of an OS and a computer.

    I feel like I have full control over the experience when it comes to PCs. I can tweak just about anything about it and if I need more flexibility, I just boot into a Linux partition. If the latest version of photoshop feels slow, I just go get more ram and a new videocard instead of a new system, and if I feel like pushing my CPU, I overclock it. Today if you want the best system money can buy for the job in the creative field, it would clearly be a PC with a 64 bit version of Windows, 8+ megs of RAM, a Quadro CX videocard, two solid state drives in RAID 0 and another 3 1.5TB drives in RAID 10. In other words, the myth that Macs are better for graphics is a lie but sadly some people still believe that.

    Most people just don’t want to have to think about hardware or configuring a firewall, therefore they just buy whatever is easiest so they can just get to work and not worry about these things. That’s why Macs are popular and the elitist and trendy Mac fans couldn’t be happier. I agree that MS has to play catch up, but I don’t think Windows is a bad OS for creative professionals. And for this opinion I will probably be called an MS fanboy, but I’m used to it.

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    Wow, I switched to a Mac but none of those reasons even matter. I actually prefer Windows in most ways BUT…I need quietness! I spent $4000 building a SOTA ‘silent’ PC but my new 3 Ghz 24″ iMac is virtually silent, and there’s no constant flow of warm air coming up from under my desk. Serenity at last.

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    FYI, you forgot THE reason that designers use macs: color management. That is the main reason. Period. End of discussion. Nothing else you mentioned in the article couldn’t be done on a PC, except the physical Apple stores. Not a single thing.

    PCs CAN virtualize OSX. PCs CAN run PHP, ruby, etc, with extra software (and no, I DON’T want it built in from the start). PCs CAN do all of the desktop eye-candy, which FYI when I use a mac I turn all of it off (though again the PC requires extra software).

    No I am not a fanboy, I am a person who uses PC+Linux+OSX on a daily basis. They all have their uses, I just needed to correct some factual errors in the article.

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    Is there really that much difference between Mac and Windows (Note that I don’t say Mac and PC, because Mac IS a PC). I use both myself and I really don’t feel one is better than the other.

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    I switched to mac a few years ago and havn’t looked back since, in fact i bought my mum a pc with vista a short while back, hated it and gave it to me! although i use it as a back up, i really cant stand using it. Macs are simply a far better all round machine.

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    Kilian Güntner

    April 26, 2009 3:16 pm

    I prefer Windows XP still for web design/software devevelpoing – at least for a year or so, then I’ll probably switch to os x or vista (or perhaps something new). Currently i produce results a little bit faster with two mouse buttons by standard, actually and the mac book air processor in such a small package turns on the fan all the time Ive heard ;) //K

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    yes, the time has come for apple, especially the new macbooks with the multi-touch pad and leopard. i would never want to do design work on a windows pc again. of course, for play time I still use a windows pc. Gaming capabilities like my pc would cost waaaay too much in a macpro

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    I read this article and thought that it would be a red rag to the die-hard Mac haters, of the kind that will call anyone who expresses a preference for the Mac a fanboy, but thus far the comments are remarkably restrained. Smashing Magazine clearly has a better and politer class of readers!

    Good article, though the stuff about single button mice has been untrue since OSX became the default operating system. I will admit however that Apple has never made a good mouse, so you’d be best advised to get one from say Logitech or (horrors!) Microsoft. But they do for the most part work with OSX straight out of the box.

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    I just cannot help it, but Mac has brainwashed so many people it’s insane. The Mac is not only more expensive, it’s also a throwaway box after two years. Mac might have been more stable, but that time has long passed. The price is not justifiable anymore. So if you don’t use a Mac, you cannot call yourself designer, wooo. And if you are a developer and switching to MAC, you should be stripped off your title :). I gotta give Mac the thumbs up for marketing though. Make people believe that when they buy the product, they’ll belong to the elite….

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    April 26, 2009 3:25 pm

    This article might have made sense 20 years ago, now it just reveals the ignorance of the author…the Mac vs PC argument died a long time ago, now it’s just an urban myth to make mac users feel better about how much money they spend compared to PC users.

    Maybe Mark can also write an article about how crop circles are made by aliens, or how he saw Elvis last week working at Taco Bell.

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    My entire design education was completed on OSX, even though I was a Win user. I got my assignments, worked on them in class (Mac), and then went home and worked on them some more on my PC. And I know I am in the minority when I say that I felt more comfortable working on in Win as opposed to the Mac. Up to this day I am still running a PC and loving it, but I am glad that I had the opportunity to learn the OSX environment. Maybe one day I will switch but for now I’m quite happy.

    It is not the tools that make the designer, but how the designer uses their tools.

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    I use windows. I am not a FAN of it. It is just a computer used for running other software. If Photoshop did not run on Windows, i would have switched. All that matters to me is my own creativity (or lack of it).

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    Nice try Vitalli, you troll. The first reason you gave is one of two reasons why people switch to Mac:

    1) They don’t really do any work, but rather dream of whimsical fantatic “design careers” that entail using a beautiful Mac (which costs 2x as much as it’s Window counterpart and offers zero technical advantage now that Macs are PCs)

    2) The only other reason why people switch to Mac is because Windows hasn’t come out with a compelling release for years. Once Windows 7 comes out Mac losers will stop creaming their pants over cool looking buttons, and clear backgrounds.

    The thing to remember is: MACs ARE PCs!!!!. They are not Macs anymore. Apple simply manufacturers the same product as HP now, but somehow the ignorance of people denies this great fact in the name of aesthetics. I won’t deny that a MacBook looks great, but so does a golden sink. My sink is ceramic though because I won’t pay extra to be a pretentious poser.

    One final note: Most successful developers/designers are Windows users, and the ones that use Mac, by their very nature will fail.

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    “Linux is of course the golden child of the open source movement, but despite the efforts of Ubuntu it is still a ways off in terms of being a turnkey solution for most people.”

    As an Ubuntu user I have to say that since Dapper Ubuntu has been an option for the average user–and just keeps getting better. I would never consider a mac.

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    Damn….. I just started a new job as Senior Designer and the company I work for is all PC based. I’ve been using a Mac now for the past 6 years and having to use a crappy PC everyday is killing me.

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    Rails, Textmate, CS4, and OS X == Pure Bliss.

    After using a Mac for a year now, I couldn’t be happier. When I must use my Windows machine, which is quite often (All good architecture software is Windows-only), I feel alone and quite frustrated. But at the same time, I tweak, and customize, and tweak some more–and often enjoy it. When I get back to my Mac, I have nothing to tweak, nothing to customize. But I’ve learned to love opinionated software.

    As for the price, Mac’s are definitely more expensive, but it’s worth it for me. It’s all just about priorities. I’m living on a grad school budget: Macbook Pro, IKEA bed, and some good food. I could easily get a more affordable laptop and have some extra spending money, but I wouldn’t dream of it.

    Overall, nice article, and greetings from Minnesota.

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    This has been a paid advertisement by the cult of Apple. Jog on….

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    No, designers who need a very well equipped computer do not buy a Mac out of the same reason that only rich dentists buy a Leica M8 and professional photographers do not. My computer would cost 17000 Euro if it would be a Mac. The difference is 14000 Euro. A Mac is a good thing for a hotel lobby :)

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    Show us your work, not your computer.

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    FALSE

    PC is better

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    I’m not going to get into the Mac vs PC debate, but the nature of this article is just plain messed up.

    When I got my first Mac in 1991, Apple owned something like 92% of the creative market. It was very normal for ad agencies to have Macs in the creative department and PCs for business.

    Today things are very different. If anything, Macs have gained more ground in the mainstream over the past 10-15 years, but PCs have grabbed a bigger chunk of the creative fields.

    This article is bass-ackwards.

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    And as for the aesthetics arguments…

    If you paint your Macbook blue. That is aesthetics.
    If you sandbrush your HP. That is aesthetics.
    If you put a sticker on your laptop. That is aesthetics.

    Construction, materiality, hardware, size, weight, stability, durability, noise, temperature, etc… are most certainly not aesthetics. They are all components of design.

    I can only imagine a true designer would want something he or she sees as well designed, whatever machine that might be.

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    I hope NOT to see this kind of article ever more. What will be next if you don’t have iPhone you are loser or if you have iPod you are cool.

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    Designers ALWAYS have used macs… macs were always a designers computer, while PC’s were business computers… while the apps have grown to be used on both – this greyed the usage of computers.. While today its a price difference, since many can design on either, even myself had to switch to a pc even though being a machead for many years before the new macs of mainly image… the apps simply ran faster on a cheaper machine… Its always the right computer for the right task… I still think mac has a long way to go and have yet to see a business be running a mac that isnt a design firm or some new foofoo type of business… sure I love them, sure I still want one, but like so many others, they simply are too expensive… when mac puts out a $399 computer (with monitor/keyboard/mouse etc) then pc markets will be in trouble… electronics now a day are cheaper than ever… 21+” monitors for around $100ish, 1TB hard drives for $100, awesome video cards for $100ish range, memory at rock bottom prices… now is the time apple needs to come out with a recession proof price tag.. Im sure they would get many new users soon as they do this… put the mac mini out for at most $299 THEN we can start seeing some great results… oh and ditch the Air laptop… what a waste – a computer that requires you to have another computer.. did I mention im still a total machead? haha So I hope the prices keep coming down

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    I work at an ad agency and we only hire creatives with heavy Mac experience. Any applicant that has mostly PC experience, is Mac hostile, or insists on PC/Windows is disqualified. We’ve been burned too many times from these sorts. They always fail and deliver sub par work.

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    We’ve been burned too many times from these sorts. They always fail and

    deliver sub par work.

    Bull.

    I’ve been a designer for a long time and I’ve worked in every media – print, web, video, animation and even signs. I’ve also used both Macs and PCs and still do. I don’t know anything about who you hired before, but blaming it on their use of PCs over Macs is lame and suggests that the problem was more likely you.

    Admit it FrankG…it’s not about sub par work. It’s about Mac-obsessed PC hatred.

    I’ll bet you can count on one hand the number of times you’ve ever used a PC and each time you went at it with an agenda of gathering yet more things you could hate about them.

    It’s an irony, of course. Ask any Mac-obsessed designer why they like Mac and they’ll say, “It’s just so easy and intuitive.”

    That it is. I picked up everything I needed to know about each new Mac OS in about 5 minutes. What advantage would “heavy Mac experience” give you over light Mac experience – say, a month? In my experience very little.

    What’s so much better about working on a Mac over a PC? I use the full Adobe suite and everything I use works almost exactly the same on both machines. Working on a Mac doesn’t make me more creative or make be do better work any more than PCs do the opposite.

    So why was a job in your company so challenging to a PC user? The only challenge your former employees had was you looking down your nose at them because of a computer choice. Which was pretty sad.

    These PC designers you spoke of…so they love design and they love to create and unfortunately, as a cash-strapped student, they couldn’t bust out $2500 for a new MacBook Pro. So instead of taking advantage of an opportunity to introduce them to a new OS, you decided to hold it over them and judge them unfairly because they don’t use the same tools you’re obsessed with.

    BTW, from what I’ve observed, the shift is exactly opposite of what this article suggests. 10 years ago, I couldn’t find a designer who used a PC. Now, their everywhere. Most of them grew up using PCs at home and in school so most new web designers are more and more PC-oriented. And knowing both is like speaking two languages – something most people would consider an asset.

    At least the up-and-comers will more than likely evaluate their computer choice based on actual experience rather than snobbishness and hysteria.

    But not a Mac-obsessed guy like FrankG.

    Most non-Mac-obsessed designers have a keen appreciation for the strengths and weaknesses in both machines, I, like many fellow web designers I know, have used both. I like Macs for print design and Music production while prefer PCs for web design (Safari is an astonishingly crappy browser and all updates are bound in increasingly crappy versions of the formerly awesome iTunes). For video and Flash, I can go either way.

    Both computers crash or hang and both have occasional hardware glitches, though I will give Apple an edge for overall stability. Still, PCs crush them on available apps and overall cost-effectiveness.

    And there ain’t nothing to be proud of in the Mac mouse. It’s a piece of junk. The ball is too small and refusing to put a right mouse button on one is pointlessly absurd. A company that rightfully prides itself on it’s awesome achievements elsewhere, sticks users with a low-function device with lousy ergonomics.

    But you can’t tell that to guys like FrankG. Sadly, his close-mindedness – and the close-mindedness of the article writer – is still all too common in the design world.

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    I think there are plenty of reason that are really true (expose and spaces, quicklook, textmate, growl, security, stability…)
    But some other like core animation… I dont really care if my app do little eye candy animations. I just care if they do the job the are supposed to do.
    About the design of the computers… this is too something that it didnt make any diference to me…
    So to me, the main mac features to switch are productivity ones, and no beacuse “mac is pretty”.

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    Incorrect fact on “No Secondary Mouse Button”.
    Seriously, all new unibody Mac laptops have the secondary button. It is up to you that you would like to activate it or not.

    http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1290/picture1y.png

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    Good article but needs some tuning. I got nothing to add but this picture.

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    2 words…

    Appl€ Sucks! 8D

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    I use both mac and pc as they both have their respected pros and cons but to be brutally honest I don’t like the people who use macs. They are just so anal. As a designer you are taught not to be close minded yet the die hard mac users are all about rules. It’s like they are their own religion. “Genesis 1: And God made the Apple Mac…Do not use a PC. Do not get a second mouse button or you will perish in the hell of diversity.”

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    By the way: Glenn Gould exercised on a Yamaha or even on very cheap pianos. He didn’t use a Steinways. You can find Steinways in many houses of rich people in the middle of the living room.

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    The main reason I switched, two years ago, to Mac was I had finally had it with having to reinstall my machine every six months due to Windows crapping out. I swore that the next time I found my machine not able to restart due to some obscure blue-screened code, I would bite the bullet and get a Mac. I am so glad I did.

    Now, whenever I have to play “help desk” for others in my family who are still saddled with Windows, I find my jaw dropping at how slow their systems are. No doubt I’ll be rebuilding them each soon (or getting them Macs!).

    The best reason, and one you don’t mention (that I saw anyway) is: Windows is unreliable, breaks down constantly, and is maddening to use. I’ve become quite spoiled by my Mac Pro. But on the other hand, it does just what I expect it to: it works. Always.

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    I made the switch 2 years ago, best move I ever made. More stable, no OS slowdown, no defragmentation, no spyware/viruses, no microsoft verification process for the bits of software. Most Mac haters have just refused to use a mac or are going off a 1 hr experience they had with a mac in 2000. Macs are dominant in professional fields for a reason, they are excellent to work on.

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    Most of the positives are present on linux. Of course 1 reason they will never be equivalent is the lack of popular multimedia software (All adobe’s stuff, final cut, etc). That is one reason I want a mac – a non-windows computer that can run photoshop naively. If only the mac mini cost <400, then I might buy one. Until then, I can only hope for second hand or a lottery/giveaway.

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    i used to be a die hard fan of PC, i had ms dos, windows (in all its versions) linux and i used to hate the mac until i got to college where i study design (i had never touched a mac before)
    the whole lab had macs…and only one pc with ubuntu…
    i had to learn to use them and then i realized they were not that bad…
    most of the students have macs and when we share files like for example indesign files it was a mess with my old laptop. fonts were not the same, even if i had the same font installed in some cases it would not recognize it exactly as i wanted…
    so i had to change manually everything each time and redo all the layout sometimes, i would waste lots of time.

    my old laptop had lots of problems because fujitsu siemens give no support and release no drivers for this model since 2006 so..when i installed directx 10 everything started crashing and if i had directx 9 nothing would work fine…

    everything was slow, and it was so hot and noisy my classmates would say “what’s that noise??” and i would be ashamed to say “its my laptop” in a room full of mac and the only noisy pc …

    I would hesitate to take my computer with me because it was over 5 kilos and 1 kilo and half for the charger…plus all the books i need to carry and stuff…my back hurted…

    so i finally got tired and got a 17 inch macbook pro and i’ve had it for a month and im not regretting it, it works nicely it dont make noise, easy to carry, don’t heat as much as my old laptop…and its fast :)

    as for the software i used to wonder “what kind of software will i find? will it be difficult to find something to do what i do?”…most things worked out of the box…and the rest…open source software really help a lot…the only thing i miss are some games but i can install a windows emulator for that…so it’s not really a problem

    one of the things i like the most is the magnetic power field, with my pc i was constantly nervous when it was plugged at school because i had to watch that noone passes by and get the cable in their feet and crashes my pc on the floor…

    also, 8 hours of battery that is just great, i had only 1 hour and half and i could not even finish one class without being plugged

    i guess that is why most designers change to a mac…

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    Floris Fiedeldij Dop

    April 26, 2009 4:18 pm

    When my PC broke down and I got a powerbook at the end of 2005 .. I realized after a few weeks I haven’t touched my PC at all .. The switch was completed. I turned my PC into a ubuntu server and got a mac pro 12 months later. And an iMac this year.

    I am never switching, my computer frustrations dropped from 80% to 5% and my workflow went from 45% to 80% .. easily.

    Snow Leopard, true native 64bit .. I can’t wait.

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    Of course people love Mac, on Mac, you can only do things the way Apple says you will do them. On Windows you can actually choose and wow thats something the “Generation Sheep” just can’t do, they need to be spoonfed by Apple. Instead of few hundreds of components, you can choose only a few “blessed by apple”…
    I use PC, I have everything I need, design tools (photoshop, illustrator), developer tools (apache, php, mysql) and of course all other multimedia, I built it myself, it’s 100 times sexier than the Apple’s white nonsense, has a hardware thousand times more powerful than Apple at the same price range and not even the most expensive Apple (that costs around 5 times more) is as powerful as this. I’m free to do anything I want, not just Apple approved things. Current Windows operating system is few years ahead of Mac OS X. Mac OS X has: poor application compatibility, small application portfolio (I’d say there is few hundred thousand apps on Win, does the Mac has atleast few hundred?), limited acessories (yay I like that printer, what, doesn’t work on Mac? what, this one doesn’t either?… ), primitive user interface (seriously, one application menu on top and you have to switch apps and travel to the top to get the other one’s menu? thats like retro from era of old VGA monitors) , uselessly huge “dock” that fails at showing whats on and whats not and I could continue. Mac OS X is all about effects, not effectiveness and productivity. I’m pretty sure all of the Apple Sheeps will either totally ignore this or point out that I’m some kind of an imbecile – go ahead, feel free, I don’t care, I’m not the one using Mac OS X… Apple has only one good thing and that is its marketing department, they can sell anything, however bad and crappy for any ridiculously huge price and people will even stand in line whole day for it.

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    I am not a tech person so I cannot offer anything innovative to say about the tech side of macs vs pcs, but as a designer my work improved from the point of aesthetics after the purchase of my first macbook in September last year. The minimalism of the machine is non distracting, and as a matter of thought progress, the same became true for my web designs, which became much more space aware, cleaner, transparent, more efficient and more logical, whereas I’ve begun to abhor the screaming, color bursting, busy designs of so many websites, even some showcased here at SM.
    So yes, the switch to a mac has made the difference and it’s quite apparent in my design process.

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    “Mac might have been more stable, but that time has long passed. The price is not justifiable anymore.” ?

    I disagree with this one. I’ve seen more issues in 4 months with my wife’s Vista laptop than I’ve seen in 2+ years with a MacBook Pro.

    Realistically I think PC is perfectly fine for any use, but you really can’t discount the great features inherent with the Mac and the lack of baggage by not using Windows. Bottom line is that if you care about gaming or want to save money, than a PC is for you. If you don’t care about those things as much then a Mac provides less danger of virus problems, a more stable environment (you can crash one program on a Mac and still save and shutdown others, not sure I’ve ever seen this as a possibility in a PC).

    All that said, designers are “switching to a Mac?” Seems to me that most designers originated on the mac.

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    I heard JJ Abrams loves Macs

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    I use both Macs and PCs regularly, and I still can’t agree with most of your points besides perhaps the first one. Expose typically annoys the shit out of me (where windows will move unintentionally) but some of the productivity stuff can be useful. Enough to justify the price? Absolutely not.

    PCs — and I think this is pretty fair — are a much greater value.

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    I’ve never understood number 6 (less malware out there for the MAC). Why would anyone be stumped by the extra vulnerabilities of Microsoft Windows to the degree it would become a factor in deciding which platform to develop on? Any “webmaster” or web programmer will surely spend 5 minutes installing a virus scanner – on either platform – so how is this even a remotely viable concern?

    I hear this “Microsoft is more secure because there is less Malware for it” argument all the time, in the general sphere of the OS debate. But I think it’s bogus that the higher level PC user would ever be worried about it. I give you, perhaps if it is a new webmaster and a new PC user all at once, maybe then. But otherwise, meh.

    -D

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    Wow, I remember when this was a site about web design. Out of the many reasons given here, most have absolutely no application to design.

    Also, I love how the article pushes open-source, despite the fact that Apple charges far more for their apps (which are just as closed and proprietary as any other vendor). When I was using Mac running OS 10.1, I was pretty pissed to find out that I need to upgrade my whole f’ing OS to update Safari and iPhoto.

    Finally, how can the author praise the whole one vendor solution aspect in the same article that knocks MS for being too controlling.

    Windows, OSX, Linux it doesn’t matter they’re all the same in many ways. Each has pros and cons. However, it’s nice to see irrelevant, opinion pieces instead of actual design content.

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    I use all 3: XP on my home machine, Ubuntu on my laptop, an iMac at work.
    I’m a developer and a gamer.

    All 3 systems crash – and for the uses they crash under, they crash at about the same rate. (eg: my XP machine crashes while gaming only, the iMac crashes randomly and for oddball things not under heavy load, and the laptop/linux crashes generally when installing things)
    All 3 systems have silly UI quirks, good bits, and neat things.
    All 3 systems can be configured to act like the other, and all 3 can run vitual copies of the others. If you have to install software to virtualize, its not “out of the box”. if you’re talking about dual/tri-booting, this isn’t special.

    I find the Textmate/Growl/Quicksilver reason to be rather weak – mostly for the Textmate part. 1) Its not bundled with the OS. 2) Its not free. 3) It doesn’t have features you won’t find in other programs. It IS however, hard to find a free text editor for OS X. I spent a week looking. I finally settled on Komodo Edit, because then I could have the same program on ALL 3 platforms that I use, and not have to relearn different editors each time. Quicksilver also has parallels on other OS’s, though they work different. Growl is neat, but, I don’t consider it’s functionality unique.

    I don’t have some of those “built in tools” on my iMac? Since its from work I don’t know how old it is, but I am running 10.5/Leopard. Granted, there’s plenty of great widgets – but all 3 OSs do that too.

    One good reason to switch, however, is Microsoft itself. I’ll agree with that reason, even though I’ll continue to have one and sometimes upgrade it for gaming.
    I’ll also agree with the less hassle reason, if you’re comfortable with the sometimes necessary customer service calls that can entail – because you’d rather focus on using it, than fixing it.
    If you like the looks of a Mac, that’s a fine reason to switch too.
    Though the comments implying that every other product isn’t as minimal/well designed is sort of a strawman argument. Some do have such things, but plenty don’t. And for those of us who build our own systems, you get what you want.

    Some of the pitfalls also don’t really exist – like others have mentioned.
    I can use 2+ mouse buttons, I can maximize windows, moving Command to the Control location was easy. Though the rest of the 3 are true – price, software and building. I think, as a work-only machine in my case, its great. My software needs are well within the “Mac scope”. I wouldn’t be able to justfity to myself, purchasing a new mac. A refurb, probably. The lack of same-system upgradability however, is I think a major issue. I haven’t had to rebuild an entirely new machine since buying the first one. I’ve probably purchased in parts, over time, 1/2 the amount of ‘new machines’ I’ve had (eg: upgraded enough to reinstall the OS, but carry-over parts enough to halve the cost). Laptops are an exception to this rule, and Macs will always do well there.

    Until they allow for more same-system upgradability, they’ll continue to essentially “hate” gamers and game-developing companies. For me, that’s the major difference. I can’t game on it – so I can’t have one for a home machine. If I were just a console gamer, perhaps, but I’m a computer and console gamer.

    Windows has to be lauded for this, if nothing else, making heavy commitments to gaming – gaming has pushed the chip manufacturers further and further, and brought us high-end graphics and 3d rendering. The abiilty to replace discrete parts of a system, and to install it on nearly anything crazy you could build, allowed the graphics crazyness to exist and thrive. Its possible that they could have just swapped places, early on, and we’d all be talking about how switching to Windows and away from the Evil Apple Empire. Either way, if you’re going to compliment Apple on its less broad approach, you have to credit what the broad approach has given us.

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    mhhh.. ..and i thought smashing was about objectivity. no, just paid articles.

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    Gawd is Smashing ever sucking these days. This article is a prime example of why. Mindless blathering with misinformed opinions that are completely irrelevant to design. Newsflash: a tool is just a tool, and focusing on the tool rather than the output of the designer makes you look like a total tool. That’s why Mac fanboy/girls are so hated these days.

    I’ve been in design for nearly 20 years, and guess what? The reality is that designers are switching to PC. When I started out in design, everyone used Macs. Now, more and more designers I meet are PC users. My position? Whatever floats your boat, as long as you promise to just get to work and not evangelize about why your choice is so much better than someone else’s. It’s totally gauche and lame, and has no bearing on the quality of work one can do.

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    No offense, but…there are designers who don’t use Macs?

    I’ve been in this business over 15 years and I’ve never met a single person or shop who counted on anything else. Shops will sometimes have a few Windows machines around for cross-platform issues or Windows-only solutions such as imposition software, but 99% of actual work is done on Macs.

    Though I admit it’s not all that unusual to run across “designers” who use Publisher and then wonder why their pieces cost twice the amount to print.

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    We also need to be honest and cite clever advertising.

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    Another pointless Mac vs. Windows Article – I’m disappointed, would have expected better from Smashing Magazine!

    “Mark Nutter runs a web development shop in Minnesota. You can follow him on Twitter where he occasionally says something worthwhile.”

    Pity he says nothing worthwhile in this article

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    Open Source Friendly
    And yet the freeware offerings are slim pickings. How is that free FTP software working out for you? Ohhh Cyberduck… yeah, nice. It’s simple to say the least.

    Built-in Tools
    Windows has these in the form on non-built in tools that you download if you want them. Vista has them, but I don’t want them.

    Unified User Interface
    I work with people who can’t even copy and paste to the correct folder in OSX. They are smart people who have worked with the system for years and still have issues getting things in order. I can’t help but think it’s a OS issue.

    Security
    Just as vulnerable. The fact less people use the system is the reason why it has less attacks. Recent articles suggest OSX is becoming a target. Hooray for Mac users, you get your spotlight now.

    No doubt, I bet I’m not the only one who touched on these subjects. It’s not a bad system but it has just as many faults as any other. Post was a little long and as always from a Mac user, self infatuating.

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    Here’s another point to make: if you are a true designer, and you cannot afford to buy or finance a mac, then you are not a designer.
    SM may lose some readers, but the true designers are here to stay. ;)

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    I am still playing with Windows right now and not switching to Max. If i need unix based, I will choose ubuntu or opensuse. But I admit, in Linux, there are lots of software but not as easy to use as in mac.

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    Nice Mac propaganda!

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    I recently switched to Mac and I love it – most of it. But two things itches me
    - battery charger heats up so quickly and hence have to charge while shut down and have to work on battery. Not so good design
    - To use function keys (on laptop), I need to press two keys (fn + function key). Again, not so good design for often used keys

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    Macs is better at graphics and they have lots more fonts so are better for designers.

    Seriously, Macs have a nicer interface, but most of the “main player” apps are on both and run equally well on both (though PC’s seem to have a speed advantage on Adobe stuff). Frankly, if you have worked on any major production, debates about PC vs Mac are quite pointless. You use whatever runs the software you need to run. Unfortunately, in the high-end film graphics area, Apple has really dropped the ball. FCP is good enough for TV stuff I suppose, but the slow death of Shake was embarrasing and has cost Apple dearly in the high-end market. The majority of studios have shifted away from Apple hardware and software solutions.

    However, it is obvious that Apple is not “about” computers anymore. Music players and phones are their core business now and it shows. The intel Macs are hardly impressive pieces of hardware.

    Don’t get me wrong, I love my Macbook Pro, but I am not drinking the Apple kool-aid yet. It is just a computer and anyone who defines their lifestyle around a computer is more than a little sad.

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    Wow – Smashing Mag used to actually have useful, interesting posts about design stuff. But I can understand it’s a lot more profitable to simply run an Apple commercial instead.

    If I want shallow, biased tech “reviews”, I’ll go to Engadget instead – thanks.

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    I’ve been designing on Macs and PCs since the beginning of computer based design. PCs lost this battle many many years ago. I know Nobody who designs on PCs. Designers don’t have the time to put up with the crapolla that comes along with a PC.

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    The Mac vs. Windows debate will wage eternal, and the comments to this article make some really good points for both sides of the argument. Better points than the actual article does, so I’m not sorry I took a look.

    That said, the condescension and blatant hypocrisy in this article really rubbed me the wrong way.

    The opening stated:

    “…in the interest of sanity, we’ll try to avoid any direct comparisons to other operating systems.”

    And yet, the body of the article is rife with such diplomatic gems as:

    “If you were to ask a die-hard Windows user why he or she thinks people like Macs, they would almost invariably say the reasons are purely about aesthetics.”

    “The Windows user, when presented with these arguments, usually rolls his or her eyes and continues on their way.”

    So… apparently it’s not okay to directly compare the two systems — In the interest of sanity, you understand — but it IS okay to make broad-based, negative assumptions about the people who use Windows. I’m glad we cleared that up.

    Argument of Mac vs. Windows aside, this is horrible, unprofessional journalism, and is the latest in a disturbing trend of the same at a site that I used to value for it’s smart and informative content. Fail, Smashing Magazine. Huge fail. What a disappointment you’re becoming.

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    Expose alone is worth the price of admission. I have typically used a pc at work and mac at home, and I am always amazed at how much smoother my work flow is on a mac. I think it is due largely to expose and the speed at which I can switch between programs/windows.

    The KB shortcuts in adobe products also seem much more intuitive. Maybe I’m imagining it, but I doubt it, macs have been the choice of graphic designers for eons, so there has always been close ties between adobe products and mac.

    I was a pc person, and then for a long time, I wanted to be a mac person but couldn’t justified the cost and the “apple tax”. However, I eventually got a used mac, and now couldn’t imagine going back.

    That, and you can’t beat an os that allows you to upon a terminal and use vi on a default install.

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    @ Anita
    Just because of one tiny post, now SM has become a disappointment? That’s funny. Just one blog post, and move on to next! That’s the way blogs are, as inconvenient truth that may be.
    (now a mac user is rolling her eyes)

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    In the time it takes to bitch about what brand of glowing box you use, you could have designed something. Seriously, use what you like and shut the hell up.

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    I felt this article was semi-decent.

    NOTE TO THE EDITOR: I would love to see your sources for this article. Otherwise, this is a bad example of what a Smashing Magazine article should be. Please continue to read below.

    There are so many false within this article onto what’s going on in the PC world. Bare in mind that I am a designer and web developer, with experience between Mac and PC. I love my MacBook Pro, and I will continue to use it proudly.

    “Apple has chosen not to enter the sub $1000 PC not because it doesn’t want to grow sales, but because it wants to avoid the dogfight that Sony, HP, and other brands are in for the lower end market.”

    An Apple Computer does not compare to a PC computer. Apple factors the cost on the laptop, OSX, support, and convenience, without the hassle. Due to recent stock reporting Q1 2009, Apple has reported an increase in revenue (mostly from their iPhone products); therefore, they have no reason to lower prices if consumers are willing to pay a hefty amount for their product. Also, If you notice the difference in prices between each Apple Laptop within the same series, you’ll see that they’re spaced out by roughly $300-500 (we’re talking about Apple stores, and their vendors such as Best Buy). This is done due to limiting selection, so choosing the Mac that’s right for you is easier. If they did introduce a laptop within that factor, there would be a decrease in sales of the higher-end laptops, and an increase in lower end.

    “Unfortunately, Windows doesn’t come bundled with PHP, Rails, or any other open-source web development frameworks or languages any time soon. More and more of what we do is in the cloud these days anyways and it is almost starting to feel quaint when you come across new software that runs solely as a desktop client. Microsoft has painted themselves into a corner – they rely on closed formats and standards in a world where open source software, open formats, and open standards are king.”

    If you’ve been following up with Smashing Magazine articles, you’ll find there are several websites that offer free development solutions to downloading onto a Windows PC. Not all solutions are available right out of the box, but I feel that would be OK. Microsoft has developed asp.NET, and allows you to download a free version of Visual Studios Express 2009 from their website. It’s not the essential choice for web development, but I wouldn’t go as far as lack of solutions available. In terms of your cloud computing statement, OSX includes development software out of the box. Wouldn’t that defeat the purpose of referencing cloud computing to begin with? Please, explain to your readers.

    Your article does express valuable information for why designers switch to Macs. You’ve clearly outlined it, but few of your reasons are subtle without including several more sources to back up your statements. It’s a pretty big deal.

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    I use both every day and both for graphic design.

    Beasty PC = 2 grand, beasty MAC = 6 grand.

    Nuff said.

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    @Anita

    Thank you for pointing that out. I completely agree 100%. I expected something a little better from Smashing Magazine than to see this.

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    SmashingMagazine we are done. You have just lost another viewer. This article is just complete crap, I cannot say it any better then it was said above

    “…this isn’t really about designers, per se, as much as a general “OSX is cool” article.”

    Here is some of the bs you “claimed” in this article.

    “It means that the entire world of open source software out there is pretty much guaranteed to run without much hassle. In a world where open source software is a way of life, web developers need a friendly environment to operate in.”

    Uhmm what.. Yes it may have been based on unix when it was started but not any more… OSS is more widely available on PC then mac, and 100% on linux.

    “…partly because Unix is inherently more secure than Windows…”

    Wait which OS got hacked in under 5 seconds by a year old exploit? O yea… Mac. Which os did he state was hardest to hack? Windows, which browser? Chrome.. No safari, no OSX.

    OSX can virtualize all three major operating systems out of the box. This is a must have for checking browser compatibility. To make life even easier, you can do it right from within OSX using programs like Parallels, Virtualbox, and VMWare Fusion. And if you think web browsers render websites exactly the same regardless of the operating system they’re running on you are sorely mistaken.

    Yes you said this twice, but all 3 OS’s can do this, just not right out of the box. Honestly how many people do this? Only a select few which is exactly why it should not be included in the OS by default. As you said Minimalism, but I say bloat.

    Opinionated Software

    This is a very bad thing, I have lost a lot of respect for you by saying this is a good thing. This gives apple complete and total control over everything. If apple wanted every window to have a big pink and purple button in the middle of the window, what could you do about it? Nothing

    Most developers are perfectly willing to trouble shoot their own computers, but when deadlines need to be met it can be nice knowing that you can offload some of that hassle to people who already know the system inside and out.

    Heres a true story for you.
    Apple: We need you to send your computer in for us to check it. You should have it back in 2-4 weeks….
    I never have a problem meeting deadlines when I don’t have a computer for 2-4 weeks. Great support my ass.

    Unfortunately, Windows doesn’t come bundled with PHP, Rails, or any other open-source web development frameworks or languages any time soon.

    Just as you said minimalistic. Why would anyone but web developers want php and rails running on their computers? Noone wants that crap on there except web developers and we make up a very small percent of computer users.

    As I stated above you have lost another viewer. I hope you change and write quality articles again so you don’t lose more.

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    The reasons above are not the reasons for switching to a Mac at all.

    I only agree with two statements above, the feature “Spaces”, it eases my workflow and saves me a lot of clutter than working on XP.

    Second, the small amount of software available to Mac. While all Adobe products are available, Mac is certainly not for 3D designers.

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    @Agnes

    You might want to read the entire comment, as I said, “…is the latest in a disturbing trend of the same…” IE, a lot of the articles I’ve been reading here have been sub-par. I’ve been faithfully following and recommending SM for a couple of years now, and the recent content just doesn’t seem up to the quality I’ve come to expect.

    You seem to be making the assumption that my criticism is to do with the Mac vs. Windows debate (As in, I’m a Windows user and I just want to complain about a Mac article), as you’ve mentioned being a Mac user. My complaint has nothing to do with Mac vs. Windows (I love Macs), it’s to do with crappy and biased journalism posted under the guise of objectivity.

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    I’ve got the best of both worlds. I was always a windows guy and plus, I never wanted to pay so much money for a mac when you can build a 10x faster PC for the same price. I recently discovered that you could install MAC on a custom PC. Sure it was a little tricky but it was THE BEST thing i have ever done. I now have a custom mac that i can upgrade just as easily as a PC. And its hella fast.
    I have dual booted Leopard and Vista on my custom built PC, so when uni work comes I boot into Leopard, and its great because I cant get distracted by any games(since they are all on windows). If at any time i need to do anything on windows, i restart and select windows. Voila.
    If you’re interested I’m sure a search engine should give you all the information you need.
    Just make sure you own a copy of OSX to make sure you’re not doing anything illegal.

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    I don’t really care about the whole Mac/Win debate. From a productivity perspective, Adobe runs good on both, and there is plenty of webdev software on every platform.

    Now, what would be useful is an article on how to do cross browser testing for free on any given platform. Safari on Windows is easy, but what about IE6 7 and 8 simultaneously on both Mac and Windows?

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    Dominic Whittle

    April 26, 2009 6:14 pm

    How about that CS4 on mac runs like a dog compared to CS4 on windows?
    Yeah, so if you’re a designer and you don’t mind your productivity slowed…. get a mac.

    (I have a brand new top-spec 15″ unibody MacBook Pro)

    “Unified User Interface” — Macs are let down by a total lack of consistent keyboard shortcuts. And don’t pretend people don’t use keyboard shortcuts. MY TIME IS IMPORTANT.

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    While the cost of a Mac might be more competitive with the PC-equivalent in North America or Europe, down under the cost of a Mac with the same specifications as a PC is nearly double.

    For example, last year I would’ve bought a MacBook Pro but the cost was too much – $3000 NZD MacBook Pro vs a $1300 NZD Dell Vostro. I then used the remaining money to go on a holiday and to buy/update Adobe software.

    For me, cost is the only factor in the PC vs Mac war. If cost weren’t an issue, I’d definitely have both. PC desktop machine for home, MacBook Pro for a laptop.

    In regards to employers hiring Mac-only staff, I think that’s silly but as designers we should be more prepared and skilled with multiple operating systems.

    A good chunk of design companies down under use Macs but most use PCs, while a lot of the general public are brand-whores and spend their cash on Macs just to be cool.

    Oh and if your PC has got spyware or viruses, then stop looking at stupid email forwards, porn or warez websites. I haven’t had trouble with those things for years with WinXP for both work and home (and I’m still using it!). I haven’t even bothered with Vista yet…

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    I have the real reasons:

    1) Because they are hipsters
    1) Because it’s trendy
    1) Because they think they’re “supposed to” since they are designers
    1) They think it will make them look cool
    1) They really think it’s better, since they never used a PC before

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    Its true that the tool is important in design, but this article is a shameless plugging of MAC… not that I am a die-hard PC user, nor a MAC pisser. C’mon, arent these up in the Mac site already? Why must we post a remake in SM?

    Design, regardless of machine… is nothing without the persistence, creativity, inspiration… and the latest Adobe.

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    I’m a Mac whore and simply hate PC because of Microsoft and Windows. Exactly as SM pointed out.

    We all know PC is a powerful tool. But you people pointing out price and power are totally missing the point of this article.

    Intuitiveness people……intuitiveness………..

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    I’m not switching to any company that nicknames their new Operating System version “Snow Leopard”.

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    @ Anita
    This is a blog. Not journalism. A blog is an opinion driven content since its inception.
    I am not a part of SM staff, I just think your comment isn’t just, quite on the contrary- I find the content very useful. You can’t find it anywhere else, if you do, give me a link or two.
    You always have the option not to visit this or any other particular blog, so the complaining is useless, a waste of your and our time.

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    either, it’s just a matter of getting used to it…and the budget of course. ;)

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    Now that Apple is taking sooooo much business away from Micrososft, I no longer feel moved to evangelise to avoid being absorbed by the “Borg.” I’m just happy knowing I’m no longer on the endangered species list. There are some rational reasons I prefer MacOS: I spend “zero” time running my computer and 100% of my time being productive; I don’t have to worry about criminals who live only to destroy my peace of mind – I have been connected to the internet since the early 1990s / have never run anti-virus software / have never run a firewall / have never caught so much as a sniffle; my computers cost more – but they come with a basic suite of “bugless” interoperable applications I would pay a lot to install on an IBMpc clone.

    To each their own – the article is factual and not overly opinionated in my opinion.

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    The real reasons people switch to mac.

    #1 they look hip when they work in a coffee shop

    #2 apple spends millions making commercials paying off bloggers like you to promote their product, and microsoft spends nothing comparatively on marketing.

    This article is a piece of shit. Completely unbiased. Right. I like the negatives for macs… no right click button and control is command… Oh shit..

    Oh, I can drag and drop images from my browser into photoshop too…

    I think they both have their benefits, and I like working with macs, But come on, this reads like an apple advert. You are all sheep.

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    It’s worth noting how vile and arrogant are some PC and Microsoft Big Brother defenders.

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    This article is poorly written, poorly researched, and lacking substance one could find looking 5 minutes on a digg comment section. Way to state the obvious in an extremely large amount of words. Also right clicking on the buttonless macbook is SO.FUCKING.EASY. Why do people moan incessently about it? Its awesome.

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    This is totally stupid! Retarded reasons for me as a designer to switch to mac :P

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    I just wanted to let anyone know that the “OSX86/Hackintosh” movement has gotten very mature as of late and installing OSX on a PC is far simpler than it used to be. The simplicity depends on your brand of PC or the components involved as some are more Mac friendly than others, but just about every mainstream/popular PC from Dell, HP, Acer, etc has had all the bugs and kinks worked out.

    Any of new model Dells are very easy. I have a Dell e1705/9400, and I used a program called “iPC” (there are many others as well) to install OSX on a second partition and it was a SNAP! After installing OSX, I ran an app called “Post-install Dell Utilities” and then everything was working perfectly. I have full nVidia graphics, 1920×1200 res, full Sound, WiFi, ethernet, Firewire, and even Card reader. Bluetooth is the only thing being finicky.

    insanelymac.com/forum/ and hackint0sh.org for more info..

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    Install noscript and you don’t need to worry about malware/spyware anymore.

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    ผมเอง

    April 26, 2009 7:12 pm

    If you are a ‘real’ designer, then I think you realized that the skillful designer can produce good work regardless to platform. It’s 2009 right now man, software or hardware or even OS isn’t that much different like in the past.

    I’m disappoint with this article, SM. I always found design tips & trick regardless of platform here, but this article is just…a mistake.

    จะแมคหรือจะพีซีมันก็แค่เครื่องมือนะครับ ถ้าคนออกแบบไม่เป็นต่อให้ใช้แมคหรู UI สวยๆ งานที่ได้มันก็ไม่ได้สวยขึ้นแต่อย่างไรหรอกนะผมว่า อันที่จริงผมว่ามันหมดยุคที่จะบอกเครื่องนี้ดีกว่าเครื่องนั้นแล้วนะ แต่ก่อนอาจจะใช่ แต่ปัจจุบันมันแทบจะไม่ต่างกันแล้วนะผมว่า

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    I’m a web designer who’s done quite of bit of work with Macs and I haven’t experienced anything compelling enough to cause me to want to make a personal switch.

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    I love reading the comments just as much as I love reading the article…

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    APPLE is for graphic designers and accounting’s! If you really work…MICROSOFT!!!

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    I just have to say that this article is almost full of *BULLSHIT*.

    Why? Because as a designer who uses the Creative Suite from Adobe, there’s absolutely no difference between working on a MAC or a WINDOWS machine. Btw, they are both called PCs or micro-computers. There might be a little differentiation for more money towards a workstation. But that would be more suited for a game/CAD/3D/etc. developer and not for the use of CS.

    Still, I appreciate this article, as it shows the features of OS X. I also believe that the article deviates from presenting the benefits which a designer might have by switching, to ones concerned with usability for a NEWBIE user, but that’s just my opinion.

    AND forgot to say that I love the tech support photo which shows iPhone service. Just lame.
    LE:check your contact form on your website, you big WEB developer! It doesn’t appear correctly neither in FF nor in IE. It might show up right in your Safari, but not in other browsers. Developer my ass.

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    Wow, a lot of angry and insecure weenies on this board. Get over it. I use both Mac and PC. I just got hired by a web company, and they use Macs. The company before used PC’s, and they gave me the old Mac cuz I was the new guy. It was an 800mhz G4 with 768 megs of ram….slow as a dog, about 7 yrs old, but you know what?? It still worked, and never crashed. Its a friggin living fossil. PC’s just dont do that. I used to own a first gen Mac Powerbook G4…500mhz G4. Bought it in 2000, ran great until I sold it in 2005. Been PC ever since. Yes, you can get plenty of PC’s for a lot cheaper. The fact remains the parts are NOT the same. It might be an Intel in that Mac, but the motherboards are pure Apple. The cases are pure Apple.

    I dont know why so many posts from PC users getting offended and claiming to never come back to SM because of this article. Its mostly true. I had a Toshiba Tecra M4 laptop….well, lets be honest, I had 3 of them. They all broke, all in a 4 year span. First one last just a bit over a year until warranty expired, nvidia card broke, but since its on mobo, entire laptop was a deadweight. So I bought a new one on eBay….paid $200 for a 2 yr warranty from Squaretrade…takes effect after seller 90 day warranty. 2 weeks later, once again, mobo died, returned to original ebay seller, he sent me another one. This one lasted about 2 years until the video to screen converter died, Squaretrade couldnt fix it, they refunded my entire purchase from 2 years ago….so I basically got a free upgrade to a brand new Sony Vaio VGN-FW laptop. So far so good. Previously I had a Sager Laptop….that POS worked great hardware wise, but the structure was horribly built. The lid kept on cracking and I kept on replacing the frame of the lid until I gave up sinking more and more money into it. I’ve had the PSU and video card of a Sony desktop blow for no reason….and a custom built by me from high end Newegg parts PC go through a PSU, video card, and both onboard network cards die. All these problems in the last 5 years alone, ever since I sold that Mac Powerbook. Not to mention the countless Winblows reinstalls, crashes, BSOD’s, and viruses. I hate Winblows, but I love to game more.

    My point being….both systems have their strengths, but Mac IS overall, just a better buy, a better deal, and a better OS. My 1996 Mac Umax S900 clone STILL works flawlessly, NOTHING has died in that machine. All the Mac’s I have owned worked flawlessly, and either have been sold off, or still work. BUT….they are pricey at first, and games are just better on a PC, period. Its the reason why I bought this Sony Vaio laptop instead of a Macbook….$1100 as opposed to a similarly configured Macbook Pro which would run about $2700….AND, I just ordered $1500 worth of new PC parts for my custom PC rig….an i7, ASUS X58 Deluxe mobo, 12 gigs of ram, and two (dual) nVidia SLI 260 GTX video cards to upgrade to a kicking gaming rig……a similar Mac Pro would cost around $3000.

    Again, granted, Mac’s are pricey off the bat, but I do feel they are worth it, IF you dont game. If I was a console gamer, I would be all Mac. My whole point is though…again, reading some of the insecurities from PC’ers. Why do you get so upset over this article?? Does the truth hurt you that much?? And I do agree that some Mac users need to get over their elitism. Both systems are fine, and in the long run, probably cost the same. Buy a PC for a lot less, but keep replacing failing hardware until the cost is the same as the Mac, and waste money with downtime due to those hardware failures and loss of time and productivity, or go buy a Mac and shell out a lot more from the get go, and not be able to play as many video games, unless you dual boot or run Parallels and run Vista or XP. Either or…WHO CARES!?!?!?!

    Everyone has their own opinions and experiences with each platform….but so many of you need to get over your insecurities. I buy PC’s for home use, and work on Macs at work. I dont care. My only needs are Adobe CS, Maya, Cinema 4D, Suitcase, Firefox, and COD4 and COD:World at War. =)

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    The reason there is so much outrage is because the article has actually pointed out the truth- most real designers prefer macs, it’s that simple.

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    7 or so years ago the argument was MAC was faster than PC. Was this because MAC’s were using SCSI and PC’s were slow IDE? Couldn’t you have spent the extra money to build a SCSI PC that could match the MAC SCSI performance? However, now they are the same guts in a different box. The bottom line for me and my business is higher productivity, which translates to higher profit. I can purchase 1 new PC (box or notebook) every 12-18 months for the cost of 1 MAC (box or notebook), which I would have to use for two – three years before being able to buy a new machine. Why would I purchase a MAC when hardware advancements happen almost overnight? I prefer to purchase a PC more often and stay up to date with technology instead of forcing myself and my employees to use an outdated MAC while technology moves to better possibilities. No one wants to sit and wait on an slow machine to process your design files. Higher Productivity = Happier Employees = Higher Profit.

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    Good article. I agree with it in most points, but even though I love Mac OSX, I can’t fully commit to it as my only OS for graphic design. I switch between OSX and Windows on a regular basis, because I find that some programs work well on the latter and not the former or vice versa. Also there are programs that are available only for one platform and never for the other, and the alternatives aren’t just quite cutting it.

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    I don’t know where people get that the MAC operating system is user friendly??? I have done a design course and music course where I was forced to use a MAC. I could not stand every moment of it, I found the MAC OS really unintuitive, so much so that the courses I attended basically wasted my time by trying to force MAC down my throat. In Australia most institutions use MAC by default as a kind of brainwashing for the easily led and people who can not think for themselves, so they choose MAC.

    Other operating systems can easily accept PHP or other programming frameworks by just installing the suitable opensource software. Is that all that hard, seriously

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    1. If I want Open Source friendly, Linux is actually far more open source friendly, and there is far more available out there that’s Linux-based than Mac-based.
    And I don’t prefer built-in tools because I like to find the right program for *me*, which may not be the right program for everyone else.
    The unified user interface has the buttons backwards from EVERY OTHER OS, which feels like they decided to be obstinate just ’cause, and since the makers of OS X have ultimate control over how things look on a Mac, they get to tell you “that’s the way it is, deal with it!” I’d much rather have extra control over things rather than have it all look like it was made by the same person.
    The “Macs don’t get viruses, so get a Mac” argument will lose its power as soon as Macs conquer a large share of the market–the virus makers will simply target them instead of Windows. So anyone making that argument must surely realize that they’re basically saying their OS isn’t very popular yet. Also, keep in mind which OS got hacked first in the browser hacking convention? OS X, with the Safari browser. Windows got hacked last. Security is more about user behavior than anything, though. I haven’t had a virus in several years, and the last time I got one was because I downloaded a crack and forgot to scan it before using it. I can’t remember the last time I got a virus or spyware when I didn’t do something extremely foolish. I simply don’t have problems with it, and I’m still using Windows XP.

    2. As someone else stated above, most people DON’T need to virtualize all three OSes out of the box. My fiancé virtualizes Windows now and then as necessary, but he runs Ubuntu natively and uses it for all his personal tasks. If he needed to, he could virtualize OS X too, but Apple makes that exceedingly difficult because they want to lock people into using their computers. Fortunately for him, he deals mainly with servers, and Linux is the most suited to that sort of thing.

    3. I actually would consider that MORE hassle. What one designer thinks everyone will be happy with, I might find very annoying. I want control over my computer; I want to make it look as I want it to look, to behave as I want it to . . . which is why I have Windows XP dualbooting with Ubuntu and will get myself a laptop for running Ubuntu only when I have the money. I get very attached to a specific look, and hated the upgrade to Internet Explorer 7 (which I thankfully rarely have to use, as Firefox is far superior) mainly because they locked down the ability to customize it.

    4. Again, if you truly want freedom, Linux, not Mac, is the antithesis of Microsoft. Mac is just as controlled as Microsoft is, just in a different way. In fact, it’s even more controlled in some ways, since Windows can be installed on any PC, but Mac cannot be legally installed on anything but a Mac-produced PC, as far as I know. Linux, on the other hand, can be run on just about ANYTHING, and will work with ancient underpowered machines as well as the top of the line, providing the same core basics to all users yet allowing them the freedom to change their OS around, install their choice from thousands of programs, and customize it exactly as they like.

    5. All this boils down to is that some people like the Mac look–and others like the look of other machines. I don’t see how the Mac look is somehow superior to any other machine, just a personal preference. This is the sort of thing that drives us Windows users nuts, when Mac fans ramble about how superior Macs are in some way or another that is really just personal preference. Just because YOU like doesn’t mean it’s the best thing and we’re supposed to want to switch to it!

    And the pitfalls are serious ones to some. I use keyboard shortcuts all the time, and would go nuts if I didn’t have all the ones I was used to, or if they didn’t work with every program. I’m extremely accustomed to right-clicking–as both Windows and Linux permit it, it’s actually a little odd for Macs to leave out such a handy feature. Just because it forces designers to think more doesn’t make it a good thing! The low economy may force people to budget better, but I can’t think of too many people praising that fact. And speaking of the economy, it’s more important than ever that people have solid-quality low-price machines to use. Apple likes selling high-priced stuff mainly because they know people will buy it for the brand name and the “aura”. “Ooh, see, I have a Mac! Now I’m cool!” But buying a computer with Windows or Linux on it may be the better way to go right now, especially if you’re scarce on money. And if you can piece together a computer from parts cheaper, then you can either install a copy of Windows (if you have one), or (at any time, whether you own a copy of any OS or not) install one of the many Linux distributions. Ubuntu is a popular one, and it is both user-friendly and powerful. You can also design your own gaming PC and install Windows on it (no such possibility for the Mac, even if the Mac were a good computer for playing serious games–it’s NOT). And lastly, the amount of freeware and open source software available for Windows and Linux each greatly outweighs the amount for Macs. For Windows, for instance, there are usually several different programs available for each major function needed, and a million little ones to do specific functions you never thought of. The are whole sites devoted to choosing the best freeware solution from a selection of several programs, and the contenders are usually very high-quality and have many excellent features. In contrast, some types of programs are difficult to find for a Mac, and often a user has only one or two options when a Windows user may have four or eight. Linux has almost as many as Windows and more are being developed every day, making it a strong contender too (plus more of the software for Linux is liable to be open source).

    And whereas previously there used to be a big difference between the programs and quality thereof available for the Mac and Windows when it came to design, that gap has shrunk considerably, and many people find that it doesn’t matter which OS they’re on if the computer has the right amount of power (some find that the Mac is slower with some tasks, even). Linux is not to be left out either–there are many high-end programs that work just fine on it (or even were designed for it), such as CinePaint, and it’s fully functional for many tasks.

    In conclusion, although there are some good points as to why Mac fans like the Mac, this post is not very objective, and underemphasizes some important details that show why the Mac is not necessarily superior.

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    I am a Linux user. And also use Windows also.
    Sadly, I haven’t seen anybody here near me using Mac. I think the main problem with Mac is that it’s too costly.

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    And one more last comment- I don’t buy the argument that you all “outraged” commenters work on BOTH a PC and a Mac. Who does that? Unless you mean you have a PC at home and a mac at work, which proves the point the magazine’s made in this post- which is most design firms use macs.
    I do not buy it that you use both at home, that’s a LIE. Switching between the platforms, not speaking of actual computers is inefficient and ineffective, and slows down the work flow.

    The main argument for owning a Mac for me is its sustainability. They last much longer, are a living fossil like one of the above posters pointed out, which means that there is less toxic waste thrown into landfills. Macs are greener in that regard, and that alone should be the reason to invest in a mac. You can always resell it and recover a large chunk of its value while recycling the machine at the same time.
    With a cheap PC, you can just throw it away when it breaks down.

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    A little heavy-handed, there nick…especially considering the singular point of view of the article and the condescension of the writer. And while you had good luck with your Macs, let me assure you that they too break, fizzle out and go bad, too.

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    I don’t buy the argument that you all “outraged” commenters work on BOTH a PC and a Mac. Who does that?

    Really experienced (or just really curious) designers for their own purposes. Workflows depend on the work. A print workflow is different from a web-design workflow…and both a different from animation. And some of my Windows audio production software has no Mac counterpart.

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    Awwwww… so nice to see that this largely turned into yet another ‘I’m right, you’re wrong’ discussion. Good job to all of you whose arrogance lead you to somehow believe that you must be correct and everyone who has a differing preference is an idiot. And all in the name of such a mind-blowingly important issue. Holy. Innocent people die all over the world, but my identity is determined by which format I use. Go forth for the cause good soldiers. For all the others who just wanted a good discussion… sorry for the rant!!

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    I must note that the author develops in Rails. If you want to do Ruby on Rails, you will switch to a Mac. Otherwise, your life will be a living hell.

    Also, can we please talk about design intentions? I’m sick and tired of hearing “designers” relate everything to money and profits. If that’s what you value in life, then I guess that can be your basis for this argument. But I sincerely hope more people design with larger intentions than to simply make a buck.

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    Yea, no.

    I couldn’t help but notice the vast majority of “pros” listed for the Mac were eye candy and nearly all of the “cons” were deal breakers.

    Mac just doesn’t have the support from the market that PC has and when all of the software I want/need is either PC only, or available on both, there’s absolutely no reason to get a Mac. And this is completely ignoring the price tag, where Mac is simply unreasonably high on for all the true negatives with the system.

    If I wanted a blogging toy/word processor I’d buy some old Mac on craigslist. If I want a power machine the only option is PC.

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    That Windows doesn’t come with any development tools is technically true, but it’s only a half-truth. You can download and use, for free, C#, VB.NET and the Visual Web Developer product for ASP.NET development. The .NET Framework itself is now mostly shared source, and several of the newer frameworks, including ASP.NET MVC are available with full source code. Which frankly doesn’t matter, because championing open source on an OS that is not (OS X) is completely stupid.

    I have all Macs, but I develop on the Microsoft platform in Parallels. The tools are amazing, the evolving frameworks are incredibly useful. And people who can actually bill large sums of money are doing that instead of writing articles about which OS to use.

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    I’m surprised that the readers of SM cant realize that this is a paid advertisement for Apple. Its a necessity for SM to monetize their blog, so I don’t blame them.

    But why get upset? Its like yelling at your TV.

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    Don’t follow trends that the problem with some people they tend see be like monkeys(monkey see, monkey do). I use macs at school and I’m not missing anything i wish they had more PC’s there. I still don’t see why I would use a Mac instead of my 22′ HP Windows 7 Touchscreen monitor haha! I love my PC. Im a loyal Windows user!

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    nice advertisement.

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    It’s funny I read plenty of comments saying that the look of a program or a OS doesn’t make any difference. And only functionality is important, they’re right but whats wrong with liking the look of something. When cell phones became common people couldn’t really pick the style and there wasn’t much of one anyway, but then Nokia came out with all those covers and started the trend of pretty phones. Would anyone really want to carry around those unattractive bricks? I personally can’t stand doing anything on a computer with the Windows Classic theme on it just distracts me. As for software animations and stuff I was impresses with Coda’s Sites thumbnails that flip around and Apples minimize genie effect. No, it’s not necessary but it’s cool.

    I think GM said it best…

    “It’s not more than you need, just more than you’re used to.”

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    I find it annoying when people say “PC” sucks. These are the people who bought vista at best buy and spent 300 on a starter computer expecting it to run the same as $1200 (overpriced) hardware. They all use the same chip now, just go find better hardware to go along with your cpu and run what you want.

    of course mac runs faster than your average computer because there are companies like HP out there selling crap.

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    >>It means that the entire world of open source software out there is pretty much guaranteed to run without much hassle

    you are out of your fucking mind. cant we do better than this shitpost smashingmagazine? had come to expect much better.

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    Marie-Louise Gariépy

    April 26, 2009 8:31 pm

    You should correct that part about no second mouse button. On my MacBook pro (new generation), using two fingers instead of one is like a right click. This is actually a great feature and work much better than my old pc laptop.

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    Tim Kerrick Dot Com

    April 26, 2009 8:48 pm

    what about the Mac Mini??

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    Most of people that said they can’t stand Windows Classic theme or default Luna Blue,(I agree that they look very ugly) surely didn’t realized the customize capability of Windows that superior than a Mac.

    Did you ever heard of Visual Style? (I guess not) There are thousand of them for Windows, since a very long time ago. *yawn*
    browse theme here:
    http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/skins/windows/visualstyle/?order=5#order=9

    oh, and these Visual Style is free, you don’t need to buy software like Shapeshifter or so to change theme. I think that’s the reason why people who loves aesthetics buy a Mac, they didn’t know that Windows can be customized!! (That’s why we always see XP with default Luna Blue theme, and default “Bliss” wallpaper!)

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    “You should correct that part about no second mouse button. On my MacBook pro (new generation), using two fingers instead of one is like a right click.”

    You don’t appear to understand the difference between a ‘mouse’ and a ‘track pad.’

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    very well balanced article, i have mac and PC, i test the websites that i build on both the platform, if single click mouse on mac is bothering than u can still plug your windows mouse to it.

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    I have been running OSX Leopard on my Acer laptop for a couple of weeks now, but I just switched back to Ubuntu. It ran very smoothly, as good as if I bought a brand new Mac (with only a couple problems, like having to rely on USB wireless, but nothing too obnoxious). But I really think that the best parts of Mac OS X Ubuntu has without too much effort.

    And I think the best parts are:
    - It uses a UNIX kernel, so open source software works on it without too much of a problem, mostly. Not nearly as well as Ubuntu, of course. You especially miss out on the open source GUI programs, unless you’re willing to run stuff with X Windows, which makes it run like crap.
    - Some of the flashyness (Spaces and Expose especially) are actually not only pretty, but very useful. Gnome has supported multiple desktops for a long time, and mixing it with Compiz (the flashyness for Linux) makes it so you have some more and flashier choices for using multiple desktops. And Compiz also lets you specify effects to get run when moving the mouse to the screen corners. My favorite part of the OSX interface is being able to select any of my open windows by moving the mouse to the top-right corner, and I can do that just as smoothly in Ubuntu.

    One thing that Mac OS X is seriously lacking is Free, open source development tools. TextMate is great, but it’s proprietary and costs money, which is quite frankly obnoxious. Linux has so many better choices (notable Bluefish and Geany) for programmers editors.

    And Mac OS X, as well as Windows, lack a package manager. This is a concept that’s foreign to a lot of people who aren’t used to using Linux, and it’s a shame, because I feel like smart package management that uses repositories is the single best feature an OS can have. MAMP and XAMP have made it easier to install Apache and get a working local dev environment, but actually running this stuff on Linux is so much better, and if you’re at all a sysadmin, it’s so much easier to deal real programming. For OSX and Windows, people are used to downloading programs off of websites and running the installers, and programs off of websites are notorious for installing in different ways, in different locations, and being kind of a pain to uninstall, not to mention not having good auto-updating features, and oftentimes containing spyware or malware. A good package manager makes this problem completely obsolete. Unfortunately, package managers are kind of hard to work when software costs money, but hopefully that problem will go away sometime soon too.

    The only reason I would consider using a Mac as my main OS is because Adobe hasn’t ported their software to Linux. Otherwise, it’s really not worth it. I think the author of this article hasn’t actually given Ubuntu a fair try, or they’d realize that things just work quite a lot more than they’re used to.

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    It’s amazing how quickly pretty much every post comparing a Mac to anything (in this case, no particular system) devolves into name calling and exclamation points.

    I would simply state that the primary reason I use a Mac instead of a PC is the window management/Quartz environment. I normally work with Mail, Safari, FireFox, VMWare, CyberDuck (FTP), Textmate, Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Aperture, iTunes, iCal, iChat, NetNewsWire, Colloquy, Tweetie, TextEdit, and Illustrator all open at the same time. With Exposé, Spaces, and the ability to have windows from separate apps open next to each other without having to resize and reorder them, I can work about 10x more efficiently than I can on a PC.

    I tried switching to a PC at my workplace earlier this year and failed miserably. I could do my work, sure, but it took at least twice as long to do simple tasks such as grab a set of files from a server, edit them, build some graphics for them, save them all to the server, then check the pages across multiple browsers. Maybe Vista is way better than XP in window management, but I doubt it based on preliminary testing.

    The other nice thing is that I can do work almost as quickly on my 5-year-old iBook G4 as I can on my brand new 24″ iMac, even though the benchmarked speeds are many times slower. This is because even older Macs still run the main system and less-intense apps with ease. In fact, OS 10.5 runs *faster* than 10.3 on the old iBook. Show me a 5-year-old PC that runs Vista *faster* than XP, and I’ll give you a dollar.

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  141. 141

    total ads and non-sense

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    Does anyone REALLY believe Apple needs advertising to designer base???

    Ugh. Morons.

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  143. 143

    its good but what about ubuntui.I like pc but i love ubuntu its like having sex :)

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  144. 144

    Great article.. As a windows user and a Mac user, I enjoyed the comparison. Although one point was the secondary mouse click, you can now (on the newer macs) designate a corner of the mouse pad for the secondary mouse click in System preferences (very minor issue compared to what others are discussing).

    Also, I read a comment (or two?) about active directory. There is nothing simpler than doing it on the Mac, just need to go to your Utilities and use the directory service and add your domain (select Active Directory) then you are away… Its pretty easy. I do this all the time.

    The main reason I enjoy using a mac is primarily the ease and stability of the desktop… I understand that some people want specific tools, heck I have been known to use good ol bootcamp to use an app or tool i needed that isnt present on the Mac. With no problems whatsoever. As a long time Mac user, I have seen the development of many tools and apps that cover the gauntlet of ones that are available on the PC if not its pretty easy (ive found) to find ones that are equal (and a lot of the times) better.

    This is just my experience, I still use my PC for games (although less and less thesedays thanks to my PS3 and xbox360)…. but it still has its uses….

    Anyway thanks for the article… I loved reading it.. Keep up the goodwork….

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    2. Quartz Extreme
    Spaces, yeah? But the Photoshop CS3 and CS4 have bugs with spaces. This is the main reason to not switch to Mac!
    http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb403496&sliceId=2

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    At uni ten years ago, I studied design using pre-OSX Macs. It wasn’t the best experience. They would crash frequently when trying to use a browser and bringing up the console wasn’t as useful as CTRL-ALT-DEL on a PC. There were other reasons why I never adopted the OS. (And using Windows beforehand wasn’t one of them, I used MacOS before I heard of Windows).

    Ten years into the future, I use a PC. I don’t get blue screens. All versions of Windows since Win2K have been pretty stable.

    So while OSX may well be great, Mac’s OS was terrible for a time. While Windows might have been buggy in the past, it’s been fine since Win2K.

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    Personally, I am a Mac fan. I just couldn’t afford one around this time for my personal use. We use Macs where I work at and I love it’s usability and interface. But IMO, if you’re a designer, it doesn’t matter whether you have a Mac or a PC when designing. The thing that only counts is talent. I know someone who has the nicest Mac desktop and laptop but he still sucks designwise. And if he were on a PC, he would suck just as much. If you suck, then you suck whatever platform you’re using. Period.

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    I agree with what most of what is said. I have a small business and use Mac (12) for security/ease of use/reliability and Windows (2) for IE only suppliers.

    One thing that is not mentioned most of the time is resale. Last month when Apple came out with the new mini’s I replaced 3 that we had. We had bought them about 5 years ago for $600 (+$80 more for more memory). Last week I sold them on ebay for an average of $325, try reselling a 5-year old $600 PC for $325 (or any Mac-PC comparison) Mac’s also have great resale value, which I considered when originally purchasing.

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    One reason for NOT using a MAC: it’s far less environmentally friendly:
    - Apple uses more components that are harmful than PCs: see Greenpeace’s review of high tech companies… even if Apple has recently improved, that wasn’t difficult considering they were performing last on the rating scale…
    - Desktops and even worse, laptops are nearly impossible to technically upgrade. Some of you might say Apple last longer… but I don’t know any designers with machines older than 3-4 years… while you can virtually upgrade anything on a PC, from your hardware to your battery…

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    i’m ok with most of the reasons except for one: the support
    This is very poor as for me. And when it even comes to fixing, it’s too expensive.
    I used to have a Dell. As for the hardware it has a very good support.

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  151. 151

    what a bunch of crap

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    Aw, how cute! Another one of “these”… For all things you say it sounds that really we don’t understand why they do or don’t go to this or that platform.

    1. Status Quo, Macs have always been associated with design… That’s it.
    2. …

    The same things could be said about going to Linux, or changing Laptop Brands…

    It’s more of a “i like this one better” thing rather than a conscious decision. With “humid screens” desktops and “melt my lap” laptops, and those awesome “Why should I pay extra for this memory just because it comes from Apple” moments, many don’t really go all conscious about this.

    I’ll say this once and leave this topic all along: You buy whatever it is you like. If you love it, then continue using it. If you don’t, try something else. It really is that simple.

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    To Angie: you should recheck the list, as Apple is more environmental friendly than Dell and HP -> http://www.greenpeace.org/international/campaigns/toxics/electronics/how-the-companies-line-up

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    1 reason why people will switch back from Mac: their stuff breaks. Easily. All the time. Continuously. Sadly their hardware is complete failure, and for the price you’re paying …

    And I for one hate the “design consistency”, but that’s just because I don’t like the Mac design much. So basically, everything looks consistently ugly.

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    There are two reasons why you might not switch.
    1. It is pricy.
    2. Not a system for gamers. ( Activition, id and ea are the only large ones who deliver games for mac )

    Other than that, you will get a better, faster and less noisy system by switching. More than you pay for – pc vs mac.

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  156. 156

    A Mac is a computer, not directly an operating system,.. i see no reason to switch a type of computer directly… there are many reasons why you should choose a pc over a mac as well.
    Outside that,… taken into account that Windows 7 is on the way, which its performance doesn’t do under for a Mac OSX. Especially not price-wise.

    From the comments, being a designer and not use a Mac, is a shit comment. Weren’t designers suppose to NOT do the same always? As long as you got a proper screen.

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  157. 157

    REALLY LAME ARTICLE.

    i´m very disappointed about smashing magazine!!!!

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  158. 158

    Quite frankly, Macs are for people who just don’t really know how to use computers – no matter what the “artistes” say. And if something breaks, you need to replace the whole computer. I wanted to make my gaming faster on my PC, so rather than chucking it away and getting a new one, I simply purchased a new video card, swapped it out and away I went. And you cannot get into the operating system to tweak it up like you can on a PC. The Microsoft haters are to be expected, but in all honesty, all they do is make Mac users look like sheep.
    “Twice the price, half the power, a quarter of the applications. But who cares, it’s a Mac!” – so the saying goes.

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    I totally agree with the last reason.. But I think this isn’t a good article, sorry.. Choosing one of them is just a personal thing, just like smarthphones for example. I’ve used both, but I returned to Windows, but that’s just my opinion!

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    This must be the most unhelpful article SmashingMag published in a very long time. No real news, instead a more-or-less biased approach of the beaten-to-dead mac vs pc-discussion.

    I’m not against Apple, I’m not against PC, it’s the tools that do the trick, and for me (and most people here I guess) any machine that can run a browser, a text-editor (notepad++) and the Adobe Creative Suite will do. And if I knew how to run all that stable on Linux (preserving more resources), I would switch immediately.

    At this moment our multimedia dept. is run on pc, while graphics use mac. They both have their problems…

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    Excellent article. As a hardcore Windows-user, It really make me think abou my next desktop solution.

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    @Brian: Wow, all designers in your small little town using a mac? great :)
    Anyway, there are some very good reasons why designers should not switch to Mac:
    -> It’s quite expensive
    -> The difference in performing graphical issues between a MAC and a PC is not that big anymore
    -> PC’s are still faster in rendering 3d work
    -> Staying with your PC system doesn’t force you to also buy new software
    -> Most of your clients won’t experience your website as you do, because they don’ t use the Safari Browser…, because they don’ t use a Mac.
    For German readers visit my article on this subject @ http://www.pixel-kingdom.com/top_news/warum-dann-doch-kein-apple/

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  163. 163

    I love my Mac and i would never go back to Windows…

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  164. 164

    I can tell you 200 reasons why designers stay with windows.
    apple is like a high-class whore. nice to look at but way too expensive for the performance ;)

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    I’m a designer and a gamer too, when I want to game I just boot my 24″ iMac into Windows XP through BootCamp and play Games, I have windows just set up for this reason alone.
    Therefore I get the best of both worlds, a workable well thought out environment for designing and a hack ‘n slash environment for games
    Believe me 24″ rampaging Zombies in Left4Dead look and play as good as any PC!

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    Also a user of both worlds and still not convinced of OSX for any reason beyond aesthetics.

    Those of you, who want to use Textmate on Windows have to checkout e – Texteditor, which offers a lot of the same features, supports Textmate-bundles, is highly customizable and also is ridiculously cheap.

    Software should really be the last reason for people to switch, for there is a much larger software-base available on Windows, except a few applications that have been made exclusively available through Apple (e.g. Logic, Shake, etc.).

    The only thing I truly love about MACs is their visual appeal.

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    Ugh. Some people HAVE given Macs an honest try and either don’t care for them or simply don’t care. Also, as an early poster stated, what designers are NOT already on a Mac? They’ve been brow-beaten into submission years ago.

    I thought Smashing was above comment-baiting with a low-grade topic like this? But here I am, baited… ;)

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  168. 168

    A really interesting article that has arrived in my Google reader at a time that I am fighting to put cash towards my “I want to switch to mac” fund! It was nice to see a list of negatives as well although they didn’t have any impact on my desire to move my design/development needs and uses across to Mac.

    The article seems to have sparked an incredible number of replies, but it’s the good old Mac vs. PC debate so it was always going to! :) I have bookmarked this one so I can come back and make use of the comments to aide my decision to move further…

    Great article, thanks!

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    I was a Windows user for around 10 years before I switched to the Mac 4 years ago. I am not a Mac user because the hardware is sexy or because I am an Apple fanboy, I am a Mac user for a very simple reason – it makes me more productive. I open my laptop lid and it’s on, instantly, ready for me to start work. I have everything organized in Spaces and the drag-and-drop interface makes things very quick.

    P.S. To the person above who said Macs are only used by people who don’t know anything about computers – I spent 2 years working in tech support. I fixed computers all day – I didn’t want to then have to fix more when I got home. Part of the reason I am more productive on the Mac is that it is very low-maintenance. It is a tool that works for me and I shouldn’t have to work for it.

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    I find this article completly useless. I work on both, and the question between Mac or PC is only a matter of personal taste or experience. This is subjective. This article is not an information with objective arguments, it’s just a point of view I don’t find interesting. Sorry.

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    I’m in Paris and all designers i know loves Mac!

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    Ok, Apple is sexy but ¿can you know if a design is made with apple or windows? No
    I want to buy a MAC for my desktop but is toooooo expensive.
    With 2500 € you can buy an basic Mac for design.
    With 2500 € you can buy the mother of all PC’s

    Maybe in the next life….

    Congratulations for the blog.

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    In my opinion there’s no specific reason for “Designers” to use a Mac.

    If I could afford one I would buy a Mac, but rather for leisure than for work.

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    A computer is a tool. Nothing more. Focus should be on what you achieve with it, not on the machine. OSX, Windows or Linux, you can do everything in any of them with a little knowledge. Be creative and achieve with what you have rather than get drawn into the marketing, they all want to sell you a new computer when most of the time you really don’t need one.

    For everything you’ll ever need, you need a tool. Not a Mac. Not a PC. Not a pointed stick. (Well sometimes)

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    This is silly. Designers have always used Macs.

    Anyway it’s about the result, not what you use to get there.

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    I am a designer and I use both PC and Mac. I hate Macitude and Mactax though. I like a proper mouse. I can not and probably never will forgive Apple for designing a round mouse, that turns in your hand as you are working.

    Having said all that. If Adobe ever do linux versions of Photoshop, flash etc. I will jump ship to Ubuntu.

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    I’ve been a Mac user since 1992 and I have never even thought about switching to Windows, eventhough most of the jobs I’ve held actually required me to work on a PC (running Windows).

    The number one reason for preferring Macs, to me, is OS X. Maintenancing Windows is a total nightmare, and just about every application that is Windows only sucks (in terms of UI design, usability etc.).

    Though I have recently thought about giving Ubuntu a try (due to financial constraints), I really want to (and need to) run PS, Illustrator and InDesign etc. natively.

    I actually used GIMP at my last job, but honestly, it doesn’t even come close to Photoshop.

    I just like the user experience I get out of apps like Safari, iTunes, iPhoto, NewsFire, Things, Transmit, Textmate etc.

    The G4 Powerbook I’m writing this post on has been in use since 2004 – not one OS re-install. Not one single crash.

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    Okay:
    1. “OSX is built on top of UNIX” No it isn’t it is built on top of BSD, which looks similar, but is even better

    2. “Lack of Software”
    The Mac has plenty of software built exclusively for it.
    Almost anything that will run on Linux will also run on OSX
    Anything that will run on BSD will run on OSX
    With the move to Intel processors, anything exclusive to windows can be run via Boot Camp, or Parrallels, or ….
    In other words, the Mac has a larger software base than any other platform.

    3. The Command Key/Control Key thing.
    That is silly – these commands were copied from the Mac in the first place, so it is the PC that is doing things wrong.

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    Siddharth Menon

    April 27, 2009 1:24 am

    I think its a wrong to say that using Mac would earn u good design… The OS before OSX etc had no great revolution to it. Yes switch to Vista was a big leap for me atleast.

    But I use PhotoShop, dreamweaver and no matter what platform I use it works and responds the same. At time I think vista has a better memory management be that if ur working on 2-4Gb or 8GB ram.

    This artical is kinda trying to push sales of MAC for wrong reasons. And yes I don’t say MAC is bad at all.

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    Most designers I know are currently unemployed, or have second jobs. And they have macs as well. Food for thought people…

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    I’m a designer and I won’t ever switch to Mac as it is now.

    It has to have a hefty price reduction, a sleeker, less demanding OS visually, more compatibility with games and other programs and more horsepower for me to switch to it.

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    well, SM … you choose a controversal topic here… but I agree with it for the most of your arguments :) I have to say that I work every day in a web agency since 3 years now on PC, Vista for more then a year and there is nothing to compare with the Macs I have. The only good news about PCs is that Vista is not running that bad overall, but it’s just not as good as Mac OS X, and by far!!! After some month of uses, Vista like Xp is going slower every week: for example Illustrator and Photoshop take the double of time to open, you may have time for format and re install but I don’t… It is THE reason you have to choose Mac for design work, productivity ! The fact that Macs are pretty is a nice bonus…

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    Kailash Gyawali

    April 27, 2009 1:59 am

    I love my MacBook Pro and I am BIG fan of OSX, I have never experienced any problem on my mac since I have been using it, I just love apple

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    Macbook pro’s hidden feature – it can also cook egg!!

    Please follow the link to view the cooking egg on Mac Book Pro.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/prakaz/3395237918/

    Read what Apple says ):
    The bottom surface and some areas between the keyboard and LCD hinge of your Apple portable computer can become very warm after extended periods of use.

    This is normal operating behavior.

    The bottom of your Apple portable may become very warm during normal use. If the computer is on your lap and gets uncomfortably warm, remove it from your lap and place it on a stable surface.
    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1778#

    Solution to over the heat problem:

    I bought “USB Notebook Cool Pad” having three fans on it to keep cool my MacBook Pro.

    Now I am using this and got 95% heat away… I almost use my mac book pro 8 to 10 hours daily.

    Follow the link to see Pad video:
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1920621/usb_notebook_cool_pad/

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    I love to read and get inspired by Smashing Magazine. But this “article” is the worst, unnecessariest and worst researched ever. If the author really meant what he wrotes, go back under your stone and buy a mac. Who cares? I don’t.

    Next time: Five reasons why designers buy at Edeka food store.

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  186. 186

    Mac, i love it.但我相信视窗会做的越来越好。

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    wtf is this article? lots of bullshit.

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    PC = crash, viruses, frustration.
    Mac = smooth running, reliable, stable

    PC Users = angry, jealous, argumentative
    Mac users = relaxed, successful, happy.

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    Colormanagment is the big thing!

    The most successful designers are Mac users, and the ones that use Windows, by their very nature will fail.

    I have never seen a designer that´s good and uses windows.

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    PC=diverse, creative, powerful
    Mac=un-inspiring, boring, slow

    PC Users=Defensive (with every right to be), Clever, Entrepreneurs
    Mac Users=Dull, Anal, Have rich daddies

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    a lot of developers developers are also gamers gamers!!!

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    As a long-time Windows user, being handed a Macbook Pro on starting my latest job was a little daunting. I have to say that I really don’t see what the world seems to in OS X. “Windows is always crashing, OS X, solid as a rock.” Well, this is anecdotal of course, but in my experience over the last few years, my XP machine has maybe died two or three times, once a driver conflict, once a rather disasterous hard drive failure and one other was an unexplained crash. In the 6 months I’ve had this Mac it’s ground to a complete halt 10 or 15 times–you know the kind where the spinning mouse cursor sits there and you are unable to do anything. I’m a web developer. Occasionally I’ll crack open Photoshop but usually I’ll just have Eclipse open, perhaps mail, sometimes an FTP client. And, given that, how come this dual core, 2GB machine feels like swimming in treacle? It’s not VERY unresponsive and it’s hard to put into words but it just … JUST feels slightly slow to react to what I do, scrolling slightly behind my movements, click response taking fractions of a second longer than feels right. It’s tiny, but again on XP, it feels instantaneous, and the cumulative effect makes the system feel much less responsive. I don’t care what my machine looks like.. I like the Macbook’s trackpad.. that feels awesome, but otherwise it’s just the OS I care about, and how quickly and easily I feel I can work.

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    Disapointing article realy. Smashing what happened this time. I realy don’t know. In the article it was no mentioned that 80% of final user on internet are windows user. Nobody cares ha ha ha. Outch BIG mistake. That’s all folks.

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    I can advertise too

    April 27, 2009 3:14 am
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    ** Bahh removed my comment, I shouldn’t rise to flamebait like this article **

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    Not a smashing-quality article, to say the least…

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    Article title should be “developers” not “designers.” Even the second paragraph references “developers.” The fact that the majority of designers and design firms use Macs has been well established for many years.

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    You have indeed forgot one big Reason FOR switching to the mac: The Joy of Use!

    I was forced to switch to mac after more than 10 years on windows by my last company.
    First I was confused and a bit frustrated, ’cause some things just are different and “my workflow” was gone, but after 2 month I was as quick as before, later even quicker and the work just makes much more fun on OSX!

    The joy of use is just great on apples products! MS will never reach that level, they are feature-driven and design by committee …

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    To end this: I met lot’s of Mac Users that are just silent and happy their pc is working despite the fact that they don’t understand computers much and lot’s of Win Users that don’t understand their computer and think it’s a hard thing to understand and maintain. Some are very competitive and commenting all over the web that Mac sucks.

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    I run a network with almost 30% Mac’s and 70% PCs, and our web design team refuses to go Mac. Our graphics department has an awesome Mac Pro with 4GB of RAM and dual quad-core xeon’s, which rocks… but she wishes she had a decent PC instead.

    We do have an all-Mac video department and some office users that prefer Apple, but I think this article does paint with a broad brush.

    I loved the article, very well written, but I believe it is looking at a smaller sample than the author realizes. What is most important for a graphic designer is to understand how art works, regardless of the brush they are holding.

    As for me, I use Windows, Mac, and Ubuntu on a regular basis and enjoy them all. (Although setting up a good web-dev environment with the specific version of Apache, MySQL, and PHP that I prefer is by far hardest on the Mac… and Inkscape requires X-11 which always causes me issues…) I still love my MacBook, but I don’t see all the benefits I was told would be there.

    (No seriously, good article…. I’m not ranting, just letting people know I don’t work for Microsoft, nor am I an MBA, but myself, the web development team at work, and our graphics department at work all prefer Windows for the same reason most designers prefer Mac: because they are comfortable with it and can get their work done faster in an environment they are familiar with.)

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    While you did try to be balanced i think you are missing some important points- Macs are PC’s. They use all PC components. I am a power user – who works across may different development environments. There has been a new trend to use multiple computers – I use five – each targeting a different set of tasks. I build them all, one is a mac clone – its very easy to build if you choose the hardware very carefully with what is know to work – you will realize with his option you have far superior range of hardware to work with than Apple offers and it can be upgraded. I regard the hardware and their associated parts as consumables – i throw out and move stuff around every two months – its not about being cool or a status symbol – its very practical and functional. I am not a windows fan and i dont expect MS to put out a perfect operating system (for me) that will be used by 95% of the population, but I will consider myself to be a jackass if I paid 2000$ for a very basic system system that i cant upgrade. I think this article at Toms Hardware which came out earlier this year puts things in perspective.
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/apple-windows-linux,2080.html

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    The comments are better than the main article.

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    I think we should rather ask: Why Adobe has such a tight grip on all of the graphic industry? The workflow is so bad as shortcuts and functions change between PS, ID, AI … :(

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    I use a Mac at work and a PC at home, I’ve never had a problem with my Mac and I’ve had problems with every PC I’ve ever owned. I’d like a Mac at home, if only it didn’t mean purchasing new software… Ok, rant over…

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    I swear if I see another comment about how “I play games so I need a PC” I am going to lose it. Mac’s come with Boot Camp… you can play games for god sakes. I was just playing some Call of Duty 5 on my Macbook Pro a week ago. Argh.

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    Dominik Jakubowski

    April 27, 2009 4:04 am

    I think we are not in a Kindergarten anymore. Apart from that the funny thing is that only Mac-user start such discussions, maybe the have some deep complexes.

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    Thanks for the ad!

    - Apple

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  208. 208

    Good article..

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    Nice post, like the reasons why designers are switching, not really sure about pitfalls for mac. I mean some of the pitfalls are really not a big deal such as right clicking, maximizing windows and affordability. In my mind, you get for what you pay for, comparing the price of a mac to the price of a pc is like saying to a designer oh well you can spend thousands of dollars on Adobe Suite and make incredible designs or you can use Paint which is free and get the same results.

    Just does not work that way. Mac’s cost what they do because they are dependable and durable. I know that if I purchase a Mac, nothing will happen to it while on the other hand if I get a PC, you never know.

    Besides, if you are a serious designer, money is not so much of the problem because the way I see it, I am a good designer and a $3000 investment on a Mac is worth every penny when I am going to be able to create designs that will bring me in so much more money than that. Just a thought.

    Anyway, good post just wanted to put out what I thought some downfalls might be.

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    “OSX was designed to run as well on the most expensive Mac Pro as it would an eight year old Powerbook because they control the solution from hardware to software.”

    This is a load of bull, show me an 8 year old Powerbook that can run the latest OSX that smooth, its the same with vista you cant expect a windows 98se machine to run vista at best performance.

    “Perhaps the most popular sticking point of non-Mac users, price is always at the heart of the debate. Under $1200 or so, there is no question that byte for byte, ghz for ghz, you can get a better raw value by avoiding Apple. Apple has chosen not to enter the sub $1000 PC not because it doesn’t want to grow sales, but because it wants to avoid the dogfight that Sony, HP, and other brands are in for the lower end market.”

    Its not that Mac does not want to compete with the lower end market, truth is because they cant OSX requires a pretty hefty amount of hardware thats why the cost is higher and the “Mac certified hardware” is a load of bull too.

    Comment #8 really sums up everything. If you really need a mac to “design” something better think twice of claiming to be a “designer”

    btw im typing this on my Air ;)

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    I use both a mac and pc and agree pretty much with everything stated in this article. I am using my mac more and more and my pc less and less – particularly because of mac only software titles (such as coda and css edit) that blow away anything for the pc.

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    Lets face it. It worked!!! We all know who likes what better now….

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    A Lot of the replies that favour Macs and Dont favour Windows/PC have some falacies that are almost what you’d expect from a religious following:
    “in the long run they are the same price”
    “Mac’s cost what they do because they are dependable and durable.”
    “you can play PC games with bootcamp”
    “the hardware on a PC has to be changed frequently”

    I could go on

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    I have to say, you are dead on when saying that it is a pitfall that you can not maximize a window on a Mac. I use Windows, OSX and Linux and the one and only aspect of a Mac that kills me is that you can not maximize the windows. Though, the windows retain memory. This means that if you leave a window at a large size when it is closed it will open to those same dimensions. But it still drives me crazy.

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    The main reason why I use a Mac is due to OSX. At school and quite possibly down the line, I’ll be developing on Unix and so OS X provides me with the best UI for Unix and a Unix terminal. Cygwin on Windows just doesn’t cut it.. MSN on Windows is probably one of the reasons I still use Windows. And the fact that it’s cheaper to set up 3 monitors..unless someone knows how to do it with something cheaper than a Mac Pro?

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    I like Apples and Macs. But, as a lead C# and .NET developer for around the past 8 years, I find that PCs facilitate my needs for the software I use on a constant basis:

    Visual Studio 2008
    Adobe Photoshop CS4
    MS Outlook + Office

    Also, most project management and file repository software (sans TFS) are becoming web based; which is nice for cross browser compatibility. If I was purely a designer, and not jack-of-all trades developer / PM I would be working on a Mac. But once I need to create a web based application that incorporates several different database types, AJAX, LINQ, and tons of functional requirements; I need my Visual Studio.

    Is it a perfect world, no. But thats what I do.

    PS. I’m also a gamer, so Macs are out of the question as far as home (work)place.

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    I wonder why when a magazine talks about windows no-one complains, but as soon as one tries to say that there are alternatives some shout “AD” & “religous”?!?

    Also I have never met someone who bought a mac mainly for it looks. That’s just a stupid argument by some people. Probably they rant at high class fashion clothes aswell. Everybody got their taste and arguing about it is stupid & childish.

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    Programming on anything on a Mac is like programming in Notepad. CSS is not “development”.

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    Nice Spot Commecial!
    There is no reason that i read on this article to change to Mac Platform. I love the diverse software and hardware that i have, and that i Can’t have on Mac platform.
    And Develop is not write some text on textmate.

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    I’m not a “hipster.” I’m a practical guy who wants a platform that lets me do my work with little OS drama. And that’s what a Mac gives me. And when I want Windows, I’ve got that too on my MacBook Pro. Two computers in one.

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    I agree fully with this article with the statement. The operating system X is one of the best, even as to reliability!

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    Hilarious how the old Mac v. Windows question riles some people up. Personally, I want Apple to stay small. It’s a proven fact that the bigger you get the more quality suffers. Look at the banking industry as an example.

    Anyways, I use Windows at work (required) and a Mac the rest of the time. At work, we replace PC’s around every two years and they aren’t your typical business PC’s (you know, bare minimum base model); my current PC is running XP Pro (they weren’t dumb enough to switch to Vista), 3 GHz processors and 2 GB RAM. But, it will be replaced in a few weeks because it’s already dying. Are there things I could do to improve it’s performance? Sure, but my IT department wouldn’t be happy that I did their job for them.

    On the other hand, I just bought a new MacBook and love it. But I still have my old PowerBook. I’ve owned it since January 2005 and over four years later it’s still running strong. In fact, it runs better than my work PC even though the Windows PC has better tech specs. Passed it down to my kid. So for those who say Macs have two years life at best, you’ve obviously never owned one.

    What does it come down to? OS X. Since it was introduced Windows has never been able to catch up and I doubt Windows 7 will be any different. And the fact that Apple makes the hardware is nice too. Nice not having to ask “Is this a software co. issue or a hardware issue?”. I can just go to Apple’s support page or an Apple store and get help. But these points have already been mentioned several times.

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    As a Mac (home mobile) and PC (work; home gaming) user, I find this article to make too many assumptions without proper research and statistics. And, generally, it “feels” like something that would have been written three or four years ago.

    Extremely poor article, Smashing; I don’t see how this article is serving anybody. For Mac research, there are far more comprehensive articles (and entire sites) dedicated to such (it would have been great to include those), and it will only seek to alienate die-hard PC users by fanning a rapidly-diminishing anti-Microsoft fire. Additionally, the author never seemed to decide if this was a “reason to switch” article, or a “should you switch, here are some ways ease the transition” article (could have been a good one!).

    Who approved this one for publication?

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    This is definitely the reason I use and prefer a Mac: (“it feels intuitive” or “I enjoy using it more” or even “I can’t explain why I like it better, I just do.”) Nothing against a PC, but I don’t feel the same. There is just something about the Mac that draws me in and causes me to use it more.

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    No matter how one sided or balanced an article is, the “Mac vs PC” war is always a field day for nerds around the world.

    For most _successful_ developers, they are probably using macs. They have probably nailed down their work flow, and work significantly faster than the average windows user, and is most likely worth a bit more because of this. There are so many little things that can speed EVERYTHING up (that yes can most likely be emulated on windows) that just help so much.

    I love developing on Macs and PCs. My workflow includes both. Primarily, most of it happens on the Mac side.

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    One of the best mac/windows reviews I’ve ever seen!
    The point with Quicksilver, Growl, TextMate & Adium could have been my own. I love those 4 pieces of amazing software so much :D (especially Quicksilver)

    Thank you so much for this article, I will right now “spread the word” ;)

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    Dexter Barsinister

    April 27, 2009 6:50 am

    Excellent piece and right on target. One minor quibble: you mean to say that Macs “have 2-3 fewer USB ports,” not “have 2-3 less USB ports.” “Less” applies to a continuous quality; “fewer” applies to a discrete, integer-like quantity.

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    There is some parts I don’t agree with:
    1. You can run LAMP on Windows use XAMPP or you can just run Linux if you want.
    2. What about virtualization? You can run Virtual machines on Windows too.

    If you have talent you can do anything on any system and PC doesn’t equals Windows.

    The reason OSX is better because Apple controls hardware.
    And it has nothing todo with anything else.

    FREE Apple Ad from Smashing Magazine!

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    I don’t get the PC’s die faster argument at all. But, it’s because in my personal experience with PC’s all of them have lasted 7+ years and they never died on me. It’s only because a 7 year old PC is pretty much a dinosaur and you always want to upgrade that I’ve replaced. But they were still working.

    I’ve been running an Alienware now for the past 5 years, only did an upgrade in memory and it’s pretty much perfect for me. But my itchy finger to buy something new is bothering me. I checked the specs on the low end MacPro and compared with what I can get with Alienware for the same price. I am going for my alien yet again.

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    From my point of view, it doesn’t matter what system or OS you use as long as you get the results you want.

    My only problem is with folks who chose to be snobs about their choices. From my observation, Many Mac zealots justify their attitudes by spreading technically illiterate nonsense and factually untrue assertions that equate to, “Macs are magic and make you creative while PCs are evil and make you incompetent.”

    Those types deserve all the scorn and ridicule anyone can hurl at them.

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    I had horrible experiences with every single WIndows machine I’ve used (running many different iterations of the OS). I switched to a MacBook Pro and iMac two years ago and both have been a dream to use – no glitches, no crashes, no viruses, no problems.

    I think the article presented some good arguments for switching – some were, granted, simply personal reasons, but largely the article had good points.

    And I’m not a fanboy – really – I gave Windows every chance I could (98, 98SE, ME, NT 2000, and Win7 beta). All had many of the same problems. While I do run XP in VMWare for site testing, you contrast my WIndows experiences with my problem-free Mac(s) and I’d never touch a Windows computer again as a day-to-day, primary or secondary machine.

    @jesse: You stand corrected: CSS *is* development. XHTML is development. PHP is development. Etc.

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    Man the fan boys came out of the woodwork for this one. Your commentary aside this article was excellent comment bait. Well Done!

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    “Being able to do things like drag an image off your web browser directly into your Photoshop project are a boon to productivity.” — You can do that on Windows.

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    I would say that Macs are more expensive to buy but cheaper to run. I never have to waste time reformatting, defragmenting, virus scanning, getting rid of the cruft. My macs run as well today as the day I bought them. Contrariwise, my PC enthusiastic friends always need help fixing a printer, re-connecting to the internet, getting rid of some mal-ware. These are the hidden costs of Windows that you continue to pay for.

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  235. 235

    never read that much bullshit.
    it all depends on your workflow.

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    There are some good and some hilariously bad comments on a generally good article.

    As someone who is creative is 3 big areas and wants to use one computer to do it all, I have no choice. It’s a Mac. If I wanted to get consistent great running in the music world, the web design world and the video world (I’m no Adobe user either, geez that stuff costs more than my Mac does anyhow) if I wanted to do all this on one Windows machine it just wouldn’t run well enough. 300 apps added to the system, and it runs the same, no slower, no crashes. Could I do that with Windows XP or Vista? No. I’ve seen it tried. They ended up with 2 machines (separated the music) both of which fall over more than my Mac. They even have a 3rd for office stuff, I just have 1. My Mac is so much cheaper than 2 Windows machines (let alone 3).

    So to all those who think Macs are just for being cool, wrong. For some of us (I know it’s not everyone) they are the only sensible choice.

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    It is just a shame that the memory management is poor. As soon as you hit the limits everything grinds to a halt.

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    i cant deny that mac is a really powerful machine, and it comes with really cool features and stuff , but its expensive and i’d bet my left nut that a good designer can create the same amount of work with the same quality on the same amount time using a pc for half of the money, So i dont really see the need to change. Mac doesnt offer anything for me that makes me earn more money, so im gonna stick to PC for now.

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    I just built a hackintosh yesterday and so far I like it. I’m a die hard Windows guy and ASP.NET developer, but I want to write iphone apps, so I needed a machine with osx. My current problems are all with adding hardware, but I know thats because I have an illegitimate box. I have liked the OS overall, but as a .NET developer, I don’t see it becoming my primary machine anytime soon.

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    Macs are for the rich suburb kids, and Windows are for their older brothers.

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    This is kind of like comparing a Maseroti to a Ford Taurus. You can argue that the Maseroti is faster, and more elegant, but who has more drivers, and why? If Macs were truly superior they would own the market. The fact is they cater to a specific type of consumer, which is precisely what this article presented.

    I am skilled on both Macs and PC’s and I, frankly, prefer PC’s. My personal preference is the only arena which matters in terms of superiority.

    That said, Windows, for better or worse, is ubiquitous across the print and design markets primarily because of its bang-for-buck-iness. I work at a high end print shop which uses Xeon-based, PC workstations. On rare occasions we get properly formatted, ready to print PDF’s. More often than not, we usually need to refer to the original creation files to fix the stuff we can’t in Acrobat/Pitstop. The fact is this: in smaller markets 95% the creation files we get, are created on PC’s, not Macs. We have a Mac in the office for just such an occasion, but otherwise it gets used very little.

    You can argue that, with Macs you can just emulate Windows to open PC files, which is true. But at the same time, there is a significant speed trade-off for running the Windows emulator to open PC files. Consider that the Adobe Suite already runs faster on PC’s than it does Macs and you’ve got yourself a recipe for constant aggravation.

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    These are facts:

    - If you use Windows, everything around you will explode and you will die a very painful death. Every single project you start on a windows machine will disintegrate and then a little popup will appear and point at your crotch area and laugh. That’s a fact.
    - If you use a Mac, women will make sweet love to you 24/7. Anything you design/develop will become an instant success… Money will actually shoot out of the DVD drive!

    …or maybe… we should all STFU and get back to work…

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    No, thank you!

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    1. Windows, Mac, Linux, BeOS, etc. It’s personal preference. Let your work define you as a designer or developer. Not your tools.

    2. Smashing will usually post a follow up to this article with a Windows slant. I’m an Apple user personally, but I’d love to see the counter point.

    3. It isn’t “MAC”, it’s Mac. There is a difference and programmers and developers should know that “MAC” stands for “Media Access Control” or MAC Address. “Mac” as in “Apple Mac”.

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    I’m a designer first and a user second, My primary tool? a Sketchbook. I don’t care what tool I have. I will design the hell out of something regardless. In the 90′s I used Macs exclusively, now almost PCs exclusively. Having used Macs and PCs in the work place for the last 10 years I believe the choice comes down to preference. Security, intuitiveness, cost, style, compatibility – you can throw all of that crap out the window. As we continue to suffer the great homogenization of our society the perceived differences between the platforms with shrink to nothing.

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    I have yet to join the Mac family, primarily because of the price. I’ve used Mac’s a good bit before in college and yah they are nice, but I don’t see myself gaining much from them. I am in need of a new laptop soon and it would be nice to get a Mac. But I just can’t bring myself to spending double the amount for a similar laptop and having to buy another copy of Creative Suite that I already legally purchased for Windows.

    Who know’s…maybe I’ll bite the bullet, but I can get a really nice laptop for $600-800 from Dell or HP that will run just as fast.

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    I’ve been designing websites for nearly 11 years, probably when many of the commenters here were still in junior high (or worse elementary school). If we’re talking about EXPERIENCED designers, I’d say I prefer a PC over a Mac any old day. I don’t feel that Macs are worth what you pay for them and having worked on both, PC’s have always seemed to run the programs I need to use on a daily basis much better than a Mac.

    This whole “real designers use Macs” talk just disgusts me. A “real” designer is good on any machine they happen to be on. If you can only design on a Mac, maybe the issue isn’t the machine, but your own skills.

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    I bought a PC 3 years ago. It runs XP and all the software I need to do my development work. The OS doesn’t crash and it isn’t slow. I’ve never had to “re-image” or “re-install” the OS. I have had multiple hardware crashes on hard drives but that has nothing to do with the OS. I still use that same PC for development. I haven’t had to refresh my hardware over the years to go to a new slicker looking version. It weigh’s 4.5lbs and I get just under 5 hours of battery life off it still. It does what I need and I spent a whopping $1200 on in at the time. Not bad but considering my investment of $400 a year it’s pretty good. I’m not worried about the look of it as my clients just care about the final product.

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    Er, am I the only one who’s slightly mystified about all these arguments based around designer preferences when this part of the article is trying to address developer issues?

    In other news, I remain unconvinced that a Mac can provide all the developer software that is available for windows, or for that matter linux. There’s a -lot- of developer based stuff on sourceforge etc which is free and open sourced. While I know the Mac workflows are a good one, many of my friends who are developers have customised their setup to such an extent that it would take crowbars to move them over to a Mac.

    Also the argument about Macs having Rails, etc set up by default is also not really the point. Developers set up their dev environments and that’s a good thing. I wouldn’t want my dev setup done for me. I’d have to go through the full config to make sure it reflected my online environment anyway.

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    Seriously, half of the people did not even read this article, if you did, you would know its not about designers on a mac its about why -SOME- developers are switching to a Mac.

    I work on a Mac, and I prefer working on a mac. I multitask like you wouldn’t believe, and MAC’s OS for devleopment is 1,000% more efficient then any PC. I work on a PC at work because I have to do C# coding and I need the windows environment, but if I could use a Mac I would.

    Anyone who has worked on a PC and a Mac consistently and says working on a PC is better is out of their goddamn mind.

    If half of you idiots read the article, they are specifically saying why SOME developrs are choosing to switch over to Mac. It’s true, they are. With virtualization & dual boot, why the hell do you even NEED a PC anymore? Seriously? I have played games on a bootcamp partition of XP and can play games flawlessly.

    Also to the idiots who keep saying “Its all about the work you do not your tools”, I dunno bout you, but I’d rather use a SHARP axe to cut wood, not a dull blunt rusted one. But hey, that’s just me who wants to be productive and efficient.

    Seriously, I’m not even a Mac enthusiast, in fact I hate people that are. Especially the people who sit in coffee shops. I grew up using PC’s my whole life. When I started using a mac I still didn’t like it, but after DEVELOPING (yes I said developing) on it for some time, going back to PC is like driving a 1985 honda civic with a shitty exhaust. I dunno bout you, but I prefer my Beemer.

    1. I am right. 2. You are wrong. 3. If you object see #1

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    Odd, I know not one developer that uses a Mac, open source user or otherwise.

    Mac is no more open source friendly that Windows, in fact there is probably more open source software that will only run in Windows.

    I wonder if the percentage of malware on Apples vs Windows matches the install base. In my mind why bother targeting a smaller base of users if you have a larger market to attack ?

    Textmate – wow one editor like most major pieces of software on the market for a Mac – I can’t even count the number of editors I haved tried over time, all probably just as good

    Windows has been doing system virtualisation long before Apple ever dreamed of it. Again, not just one choice of software to do it. Many!

    I am wondering when Apple are going to be hit with the same anti-trust lawsuits for including all that software they do with the operating system. Same set of rules should apply to them that apply to Microsoft!!!

    As for Apple support – in South Africa it’s non-existant – watching my designer friends silly enough to use it trying to get a RAM module swapped in warranty has been extremely entertaining – the local distributor is a crook.

    This article is written by a typical Microsoft basher – get a life…

    I wonder how much Apple paid Smashing Magazine for this fluff piece ? I think this is the last time I visit this site. RSS reader (yes one of many on Windows) – DELETE!

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      “This article is written by a typical Microsoft basher – get a life…”
      The pot calling the kettle black, eh?

      I have been using PCs for work and gaming since 1996. While Mac can’t really even be compared for gaming because it CANNOT GAME (lol), when I switched to Mac for work I was so glad I did.

      It took getting used to, and from what I read in this article, most of the problems mentioned here I have experienced.

      I never thought I would become such a staunch convert, but I am.

      I put a lot of money in my PC because of gaming and some other productivity software, so I don’t need to upgrade anytime soon. And now that I have switched my gaming to XBox 360, when it comes time that my PC is just no longer up to par, I’ll be getting a Mac.

      There are so many nuances (and nuisances) about Windows I do not miss. The up time of the Mac and noticeable lack of system crashes speak for themselves.

      I’ve tried Mac, and I’ll never go back!

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    Too many reasons not to use MAC…

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    Sorry but this is BULLSHIT! MAC price is OVERPRICED for NO REASON. Windows have EVERYTHING what MAC have all soft and even more then MAC. This is just a commercial.

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      Reiden Uses Ubuntu

      April 13, 2011 8:18 am

      So, if you made a computer system, wanted to make money, but were only selling to a few people, you WOULDN’T up the price to make a profit?

      Apple does not make the same money Microsoft makes. MS locked vendors into giving them money no matter what OS they sell thanks to Per Processor Contracts. As well, Apple has selected an audience to be only those people who REALLY WANT A MAC. I wouldn’t want people buying my wares unless they REALLY wanted it.

      Windows does not have everything Mac does. That’s a boldfaced Lie. Windows still uses elements of DOS, has little to no security (1st party), and has less good resources for media.

      Microsoft has failed to make a stable OS. Apple took until OSX when they adopted UNIX, but at least they made something that works when you want it to. So is saving 200 dollars on your computer worth loosing money from your lack of productivity from all that troubleshooting?

      Microsoft is a mess. Deal with it.

      By the way, I’m using Ubuntu, not Mac.

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        @Reiden Uses Ubuntu Really? I find windows 7 x64 to be very stable and if you were to stay away form all those porn sites and have a decent anti-virus I think you would have found it stable also.Yes its probably true that you can use Ubuntu or spend allot of extra cash and use OSX and view porn to your little hearts desire without having to worry about malwere because, no one writes malwere for an OS that 90+% of the earths population considers an overpriced waist of time!

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    Macs are good, but you don’t even need a benchmark to see that Photoshop runs faster on Vista machines, and open-source solutions — especially which rely on X11 — are bulky, slow and don’t work “the Mac way” if you know what I mean.

    Additionally Mac Pros are way too overpriced. In a nearby shop I can build a machine with Core i7 (why would I want a Xeon edition?!) for a twice less price, and it will work as fine — if not better.

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    Not that greater article IMO.

    Last time I looked, my laptop has a mouse (trackpad, essentially the same), a keyboard, a screen, runs the adobe programs easily and runs everything I need, I look after it and I think in 6 months I’ve had 1 crash. My laptop cost be £400, the nearest Mac laptop is substantially more, and for a student, that’s too much to pay.

    Yes I would love a Mac and when I am older and hopefully have more money I will buy one. But the entire MACS ARE MUCH MUCH BETTER argument needs to be given up. It’s not true. And yes I have used Macs before for work – I’ve done various work experience at graphic design companys on Macs, and to be honest maybe they were a little better but certainly not enough to make me want to fork out the extra cash.

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    Quit yer yappin! All of ya!

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    Hollis Bartlett

    April 27, 2009 9:28 am

    The big point everyone missed including the article author is the genius behind Apple’s marketing, and the evidence is shown here. Apple have polarized everyone between OSx and Windows, when in fact Apple is a computer company. A better comparison would be Apple vs. Dell or something, especially when comparing esthetics and stuff like that. My Dell Studio laptop has more features than a Macbook, way more power, runs Adobe stuff fast, and never crashes despite the heavy use it gets. Oh, and it cost half as much. I’d buy a Mac if they were reasonably priced, but they’re not even close.

    Yes, some PCs suck. But some don’t. If you get a quality PC from a decent vendor with support, it is every much as stable as a Mac. The problem is some people comparing their old PC with WIndows 98 to their new Mac they bought to replace it. It’s the same as me saying my old blue iMac sucked big time compared to my new 64 bit Vista Dell.

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    This article is crap – Vista has every single one of those “features” listed under the latest Mac OSX right down to the “per pixel screen capture”. It is called the snipping tool.

    I think I’m going to go make some Toast, then head over to the local Safari… where I can eat some breakfast and see some cool animals. Oh wait, for you Mac retards that would mean burn a CD and browse the internet… gay.

    Never use a Mac unless you have an attitude and like less in the way of software options. Period.

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    “there is no optimal number of mouse buttons”

    Hahahaaahaahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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    Matěj Grabovský

    April 27, 2009 9:45 am

    This is probably the worst article here :(

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    Nice post. I use both. But for myself, I couldn’t buy one because of the price issue when I was shopping for a laptop. I wish that they were just not as pricey.

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    I’ve used Macs and there isn’t really anything wrong with them, but Windows FTW for me. I also game and can build a stronger computer with the amount of money I would be putting into a Mac.

    And with regards to this article’s title, “developing” is no different with these two OSes in my opinion.

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    PC based designer here. With Adobe Creative Suite, I have no reason to pay the high price of Mac. Instead, I can get the computer AND the software for the price of the Mac.

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    Not sure if you guys have heard, but a local web expert in Northern Ireland has had enough with high priced PC computers. With his experience with his first generation iPhone he has decided to ask his Tweeter followers and Facebook friends should he get #Mactised?

    So with your article in mind you might like to check out his recent posts at http://www.mactised.com and perhaps take part in his online poll to decide. You can tweet him @internetsense

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      Link is broken… It’s says a lot about using a MAC for web developing. :)

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    For me as a die-hard Windows user, Mac(=OSX) is just a pain in the ass.

    Here’s a link of interest http://www.fictionalhead.com/blog/full/mac-vs-pc-a-designers-take
    [quote]A great designer who works on both platforms tells about his MAC-experience compared to windows.[/quote]
    I agree completely with him.

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    ok, lemme add something… mac users are cowards (in a good way) They are afraid of viruses. They can’t confront viruses. Pc users get to fight, defend.. and all that cool stuff. PCs are flexible. Mac is like.. ‘we’re all under you – bIG bOSS APPLE! Mac designs are like making everyone wear same uniform. Wont’ you hate to see everybody wearing Banana republic clothing around you?? It’s individual’s choice that matters.

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    mac versues pc.. it will never end.
    Mac and Apple suffer from the titanic syndrom.
    After reading through this book: http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596153588/#top
    It makes me wonder what Apple Spyware they have installed on all their products..
    Who is worse Microsoft or Apple for learning from their mistakes.

    Apple = No Privacy.

    Enjoy

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    In terms of small amounts of software for the Mac, look no further than VersionTracker or MacUpdate. Really now.

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    You are missing the most important one. The iphone.

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    Oh I didn’t realize you only consider web developers as developers.
    Guys grow up C# is the best language and unless and until I get an IDE of VS standard I wont even look for MAC.
    As for the web design stuff my PS, Illustrator and Dreamweaver certainly dont come with great features exclusive for mac. (Don’t tell me default re-size on zoom, I can change that in my preferences)
    They work as fine on windows.

    Viruses: Hmm ever head of terrorist attack on mars? Boy they dont care for mac as it has very limited audience. Ruby and other bundled software are just extra baggage you can get for free. Do you think someone spends 1000s more on mac just to use in built Ruby which they can get for free. Hehehe

    Last I have used mac as I own one but sorry they are basically alike and moreover if are developing for windows you are developing for larger audience. So sorry mac :P

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    I work in a mix enviorment. I have used windows since 3.11. I have used Mac OS since system 7. I uses linux and sun solaris some times.

    Mac OS X is my first choice. It´s newer crashes, the interface is not in my face and it has a real colormanagment. Windows has still no colormanagment. it´s sick that the largest company still can´t produce colormanagment…

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    It scares me to think that a lot of Mac users don’t have anti-virus protection. Just think of the virus or viruses that start to be written. It’ll be more devestating than windows when that time comes.

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    Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics.

    Even if you win, you’re still retarded.

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    OS X is far more reliable, far better at multi-tasking and using large amounts of memory and multiple processor cores. All things someone using design apps would care about. I don’t know any designer who work solely in one app, most have multiple apps open all of which require large amounts of memory and maximum efficient utilization of processors. You won’t get that in any flavor of Windows. Which is probably why i also don’t know any designers that use Windows.

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    Interesting how all the anti-apple people/teenagers can’t spell or write a coherent sentence. As usual they also know nothing about Macs. If daddy can’t afford to buy you a Mac try to be more secure in what you settled for.

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    God this argument is old…
    and so lame…

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    developers switched to the mac about 8 years ago – did you only just notice? point #1 is accurate – the rest of the article is made-up waffle and mostly incorrect.

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    What on earth is this article? Reasons why developers are switching (which is far from being a given), or reasons why the user thinks OSX is cooler? Done much astroturfing lately?

    Some of these points are just absolute rubbish.

    “Open source friendly” … and my Windows machine isn’t? That’s news to me, considering how much open source software I actually use, not to mention that I’ve got a Linux(Cygwin) that I can use without any problem, and a full Apache web server with MySQL and PHP installed (thanks to Xampp). Yeah, I had to go to Google, search for them, download and install, but frankly, if someone is too stupid to be able to do that, then they shouldn’t even be thinking of owning a computer.

    “Built in tools” … I’ll get a Freeware or Open Source tool when I need it, instead of having built in tools that I may not want.

    “Textmate, Growl, Quicksilver, and more” … are you being serious? You’re telling me that I can’t get Windows applications that can do these things? Windows has a built in quick-launch utility: the run Box. Setup shortcuts in c:windows, name them to one keyword (e.g. “ff” for firefox) then just go Windows-R, type “ff”, hit enter. Doesn’t suit you? Go to lifehacker and find a few freeware ones. There are plenty. For Textmate, use Eclipse (or use Context for something very lightweight). For an IM client use Trillian, Pidgin, or a host of others that are out there.

    “Security” … Haven’t had a virus or piece of malware on my machine for many, many years now. A bit of common sense and education goes a lot further than deciding to choose a Mac or PC.

    As for the “Switch because it’s Microsoft” argument … if you honestly believe that Apple are somehow going to behave any better as a company should their market power and market share increase, then you’re either delusional, or an Apple fundamentalist. What you should say is switch to something like Ubuntu and go completely Open Source.

    Frankly, a good workman NEVER blames his tools. I’m so sick of the “OSX Mac is better than Windows PC” (and vice versa) debate, that I use it now as a good sign that someone is too obsessed with things that just don’t matter.

    SM, let’s move away from the fan-boy garbage, and stick to what you do best.

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    Photoshop, TextMate, CSS Edit, Leopard’s Expose and Spaces are just a few reasons why working on a Mac – for me – is and continues to be the best, most-professional design/development environment.

    On a side note, I have 2 PC’s, 1 with Vista and 1 with XP. I despise both of them, but like many other folks these days, the budget is too tight to have ALL mac machines. But I definitely would if I found a small fortune.

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    Ah come on!
    Mac OSX and Windows sucks!!

    Linux is the only reliable OS!!

    GIMP is all you need for design!

    Anyone who is saying something differentn does conceil the truth!!

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    Hahaa… I wonder if some people even read the article, as I see a lot of “OMG, you CAN use Photoshop on Windows!!” arguments.

    I think it’s just because the strikethrough for the title font doesn’t come out very clear.

    The article is about DEVELOPERS using Macs. ;)

    I’ve worked on both, and I can simply say I prefer Macs as they’re less of a hassle (for me) than working on a PC.

    But to each their own. You won’t see me running to my PC-using friends thumbing my nose at them or trying to convince them to switch. Just work with what you’re happy with, but it doesn’t hurt to keep an open mind, either.

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    @expressions
    Don’t express opinions as facts. Stating that C# is the “best language” is a matter of opinion and is not a fact. I’ve written applications using both C# and Objective-C and I prefer to write in Objective-C for Mac OS X and the iPhone. If you’re going to say that one language is the best, at least provide a reason for your answer. I’m sure you’re also aware of the Mono project as well.

    As far as Adobe applications such as Photoshop, Illustrator, and Dreamweaver – the article never stated that they were any different on Microsoft Windows or Mac OS X. This statement that you provided was unnecessary.

    There could be a multitude of reasons as to why most viruses aren’t targeted towards Mac OS X. 1. Perhaps the writer doesn’t know Objective-C or C++; 2. Smaller, but growing, audience; 3. Lack of knowledge in the Mac OS X operating system. Seeing as how you seem to know both operating systems inside and out, I’m sure you’ve thought of these possibilities.

    I don’t know of anyone who would buy a Mac specifically because of the support for Ruby or Ruby on Rails. As a Ruby on Rails developer, I would not even purchase a computer just because it ships with support for the framework. However, I would purchase a computer based on the user experience, consistency, and applications. I’m not sure if you’re aware, but most operating systems come with bundled software. Yes, Microsoft does this too.

    “if are developing for windows you are developing for larger audience.” Please humor me more. The audience isn’t Microsoft Windows users – it’s who you decide to target. You don’t target users based on the operating system. If I had a designer or developer that had this mindset, the developer would no longer be working for me.

    Saying they are alike has some validity. Of course they’re going to be alike – they’re both operating systems. Who knew? Those are the only similarities I can think of.

    If you’re going to post statement as if they’re factual, provide reasoning. I had thought that the school systems had taught this in elementary and middle school levels.

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    Conclusion:

    1. Creative == Computer Illiterate
    2. Cool == “I have tons of money to burn”
    3. “It just works” == I really dont have a reason
    4. Design and Minimalism == Over charge me for upgrades
    5. Cant build a Mac (easily) == A lie

    => Mac = PC (just another)

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    That’s linkbait. Write a praise article and get Mac fanboys to Bash windows users.
    It’s as simple as that: a Mac is perfect for basic-medium users and I learned that first hand after switching.
    Why there’s no CUT-and paste? Why no editable path or tree view in Finder?
    The typical Mac fanboy will reply: because you don’t need it.
    Well, I do.

    @pc2mac on Twitter

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    The Digital Color Meter – a tool that allows you to grab the color value of any pixel on your screen.
    Really? OMG that’s advanced! And such a fancy name! It’s digital, not analogue like on the crappy PC, where you take photos of the screen, print them and measure the color using a magnifier and a Pantone Book.

    Because of the strict user interface guidelines provided by the Apple software development tools, applications and utilities on a Mac feel like they are all part of the same system.

    Sure, that’s exactly what Stalin thought. Wear uniforms, be part of the system, don’t dare to be different.
    PC2Mac on Twitter

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    @250 DavidA: Watch me in my Mercedes PC biatch! lol
    Couldn’t help it to slap it in his face.

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    Thumbs up for post #281.

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    Nothing new here that I haven’t already heard. Basically, what grabbed my attention to the Mac was the interface, Finder’s Structure, Font Displays, Keyboard shortcuts, and the freeware and shareware apps (iBackup, Coda, WireTap, ….).

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    Im a .NET developer at a company developing enterprise business solutions, I’ve been a professional programmer for 15 years (and a PC user for over 20). Mac isnt an option in our branch, we have a few of them lying around for testing purposes but not even the frontend engineers use them for anything else.

    Mac may be an user friendly choice for entry level users and people using the adobe suite and some light web developing (PHP) but if you want to go further than that it falls short due to its lack of flexibility. Today PC based enviroments on Windows and Linux offers far more secure, robust, faster, scalable and more flexible solutions for developers. Its not really even an argument, its a fact.

    Theres nothing that a Mac can do that a PC cant – but there is plenty that a PC can do that a Mac cant. I dont hate apple, I have had all the ipods since 1.gen – but I have to say this title is very misleading to people wanting to become professional developers.

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    Currently I’m freelancing as a web designer, but I have far more professional experience as a developer. I spent around 5 years working on protocol stacks and OS firmware with another 2 years working on sever side software. I also happened to switch from Windows to OSX earlier this year, and I think your list is not representative of why developers move over to OSX.

    I’ll start by saying that I do like OSX better than Windows XP / Vista and I have found the OSX experience to be quite nice. Windows 7 has some nice touches I miss in OSX, but I prefer OSX at this point. The interface is fast and consistent, the integrated tools make everyday life easier, and Apple’s directed tool and API designs have made the vast majority of third party software quite enjoyable to use.

    However, none of these things had any bearing on why I switched from Windows to OSX.

    To the vast majority of software developers out there, the OS is simply a tool and nothing more. Aesthetics and consistency of design are not a major concern as long as it can efficiently and effectively get the job done. I cannot stress this more. Developers are concerned with getting the job done and the OS is just a means to get there.

    Your list is inverted in a sense. Functionality is the main concern for developers, not in the sense of having a solid consistent interface, but rather does the system provide the functionality I need or want. A lot of software developers are educated as either engineers, computer scientists, or mathematicians. We’ve spent years exposed to some of the most arcane finicky software there is and typically have a fairly strong UNIX background. For developers, convoluted or somewhat poorly designed interfaces are sometimes an acceptable trade off for functionality and not even a question if the software is simply not available on OSX.

    For instance, hardware designers will not work on OSX simply because the board layout and circuit design tools are not available. There are alternatives, but asking a professional hardware engineer to work with OSX alternatives would be equivalent to asking a graphic designer to use MS Paint instead of Illustrator or Photoshop.

    Imagine for a moment that your article is on a special bundle of tools on sale at the local hardware store instead of operating systems. Your article talks about how nice the finish is on the hammers, how there is a solid well thought out toolbox included in the package, and a perfect set of screw drivers with rubberized grips and magnetized heads. If I’m a wood worker looking for a skill saw it doesn’t matter how well designed the toolbox is or what kind of special chrome platting is on the hammers. I’m looking for a skill saw.

    Way down at the bottom of your list you mention a small caveat — the fifth caveat to be precise — “Much Smaller Software Library”. This is precisely the reason developers would or would not move to OSX. OSX is a great OS, and it’s a nice balance between aesthetics and functionality, but if it doesn’t provide the functionality a developer wants then none of that matters.

    The reason why I switched was because Windows did not provide the functionality that I wanted, which is to say iPhone development and a higher performance more well supported RoR stack. If you ask a developer who moved from OSX from Windows, you’ll often get a very similar response. There are typically specific reasons why they switched and many of those will having nothing to do with the reasons you mentioned.

    I’ve avoided addressing the specific points of your article until now, because I feel that it would be somewhat distracting. However, here are some complaints:

    Open Source Friendly:
    Windows has the vast majority of OSS available either natively or via Cygwin

    Quartz Extreme:
    Speed is the primary concern. Remember you’re talking to people who spent half a decade studying engineering or mathematics — alt-tabing is often faster when you have memorized the entire alt-tab order. Especially when Expose is just about useless when you’re looking at a dozen terminals and VIM windows.

    Core Animation:
    Again, it’s a great thing, but you’re talking to people who spent months of their lives writing assembly or using the abysmal stone age mess which is R (a statistical software package) — suffering through software when it provides features that are simply not available on OSX is fine

    Built-in Tools:
    Third party alternatives to the ones listed will get the job done whether it’s pretty or not. The claim that VIM is a reason to move is farcical since I’ve been using VIM on Windows for over a decade now. On XCode, frankly Visual Studio is an excellent tool with many features not available in any software on OSX, but again it’s just a tool. If I need to write OS X software I’m not going to use Visual Studio. You mention Time Machine as a reason to switch, but developers use revision control systems such as Perforce, Subversion, GIT, etc. Backups are nice, but I can just as easily get a new machine, image the drive, then grab all the latest code from the repository.

    Textmate, Growl, Quicksilver, and more:
    I use gVIM. Others use Emacs. It will be very difficult to argue that Textmate offers anything that is not available in either of those packages. If anything, Textmate is an effort to make some of the power that’s available in VIM and Emacs accessible. Every feature you mentioned is available in VIM and Emacs, and quite a few of them are available in even MS Dev. Quicksilver and what not is nice, but recall that we’re trying to get a specific job done here. Growl does nothing to help developers get a job done. Furthermore, there are viable alternatives on Windows of which I used to use many.

    Quick Look:
    Great, except it’s useless for code.

    Virtualization and Intel:
    Nice if you’re targeting OSX, otherwise VMWare Workstation is superior since it’s geared towards enterprise deployment, management, and development. If you’re used both Fusion and Workstation you’ll know what I mean. Also, web developers are subset of the development community and not representative of the whole.

    Support:
    On troubleshooting, I don’t think you’re considering the typical developer environment. The reason why developers often diagnose and fix their own issues is usually a pragmatic one: it’s faster. If you have a difficult problem with your system or software, typically technical support will be a massive waste of time on both OSX and Windows. On hardware, if there’s a problem you simply replace it. Corporations stock hardware and if you can’t solve it quickly, just replace the entire system and let IT figure out how to fix your old box. It seems like this article is geared towards solo web developers, which isn’t really the reality for most developers.

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    Meh! I’m over advertising dressed as journalism. Most GOOD designers/developers are smart enough to work well on either platform. If you’re platform specific then you’re limiting your employment opportunities. 6 and 9 are the only 2 points of merit.

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    Where did your fact that developers are switching to Mac?

    That sounds like a bunch of garbage that was made up. I’m sick of hearing about Macs this and that. It’s a “trendy cult”.

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    Did apple pay for this post?

    Alright I owned a 17″ power-book for 2 years the CD drive failed and hardrive dies in 8 months sound card within a year or so then the logic board fries out by 2 years,

    And yes i did have apple-care?s and yes they didn’t do a damn thing and wanted to charge me the whole way through.

    3600.00 later I will never buy a mac switched back to a PC windows xp pro
    and the only difference is the interface my PC will run laps around a mac. I run 6-7 programs at any given time and if anything the performance with hi-res (300dpi) Photoshop is faster on my PC.

    So mac’s are sleek and fancy but made out of shit I like the OS but i don’t see any real advantage. (and yes the dent easily)

    As far as viruses get good anti-virus software and optimize your system, I never get viruses as it is but I am not looking a free porn sites either and jane never emails me.

    And if you want osx set it up in spare hard drive on a fast updated pc.

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    Interesting. Boxes are not much of an issue, could work on mac, pc or linux box. I believe if mac produce an affordable netbook, all hell breaks loose. Isn’t netbooks the biggy thing right now? Netbooks offer great portability, low cost, low powered and high productivity. When I am home I just dock to my cooler with a huge lcd screen and continue working. I love the fact that I could code anywhere or design something when creativity sparks me. So boxes are not much of an issue, its the work we produce at specific time. I still code with an atom 1.6 with 10 inch screen and I am loving it.

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    @David Ma: You sure made my day! thank you for posting a trully amazing response i totally agree with you, i was starting to get pissed by the second while i was reading more and more comments until i read yours, THANK YOU

    this is truly weird, im a developer (not just for web ) and i must say that the facts are kinda obscure on this article, im not saying if i prefer a Mac or a Pc because its silly, and i wont say i prefer windows over OsX or Linux, i do know lots of designers that works with OsX and some that works with windows (heck even some that use linux as well) it all comes to what you feel will improve your tools and not wich one is pretier or capable, i have fixed machines with all 3 Os and i have seen all 3 of them crash, i just dont see whats the big deal with all of this comparisions.

    in the end you are using a tool to achieve your goal dont try to convince other people to use your tools if they have their own

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    I think that #2 on pitfalls is stupid to say the least. I have a “one-button” trackpad and click with two fingers to right click. What do I gain by this? More room to move, surf and do whatever I want on this monsterous trackpad. I think its a plus not a minus.
    /end rant

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    Reading through these comments is more entertaining than reading a political message board during election season.

    I have a friend who drives a Lexus and swears he’ll never buy anything else. I drive a 1991 GMC; it’s paid for, is low maintenance and gets me from A to B. Point being, to each his own.

    I used Windows from 95-XP and OS X 10.3-10.5. I’ve also played around with Ubuntu.

    I prefer Mac.

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    I almost switched to a Mac but for the price I paid to get a PC for the same cost ( $2000 ) the PC turned up to have the more powerful components. Until I start getting paid more, it’s not really an option.

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    Viruses: Hmm ever head of terrorist attack on mars? Boy they dont care for mac as it has very limited audience. Ruby and other bundled software are just extra baggage you can get for free. Do you think someone spends 1000s more on mac just to use in built Ruby which they can get for free. Hehehe

    Last I have used mac as I own one but sorry they are basically alike and moreover if are developing for windows you are developing for larger audience. So sorry mac :P

    Thats pretty stupid. No terrorist attacks on Mars because they cant get to Mars. No virus attacks on Macs because they cant spread it as easy as on a PC. Nice spin on your part though.

    And developing on a Mac doesnt mean you only develop for Mac users. Thats just dumb too.

    Once again to people who have their panties up in a bunch over this article…grow up. Heaven forbid there is an actual civilized Mac vs PC debate without the PC weenies coming here crying like little girls over not getting asked to the prom.

    Im writing this on my Sony Vaio laptop, but way tooo many insecure PC users here.

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    Once again we have to bring up the car analogy.

    Both cars get you to the same spot. Both cars have 300 hp engines. Both cars are convertible, leather seats, chrome wheels, spiffy gauges and high performance tires. Both cars go 0-60 in 4 seconds or less.

    PC = Corvette
    Mac = Ferrari

    Corvette/PC is more affordable, Mac/Ferrari looks better and has more style.

    Which would you rather have?? Its personal preference, and its about image. Do you really make fun of people driving Ferraris?? I know I dont. Do I make absurd arguments like it gets me to point A just as fast, or the road speed limits make it moot?? No. More power to you if you own a Corvette, and more power to you if you own a Ferrari.

    If people told you you can get a Ferrari for only 50% more of the cost of a Corvette, you wouldnt want one?? If you say no, I would call you a liar.

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    I have used PCs and Macs all my life, my MacBook Pro is a piece of shi__t compared to my PC. Mac laptop are SO slow, if you have $10,000 and buy a mac desktop that’s another story. Imaging spending $10k in a desktop PC?

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    mac != .net

    Real developers will know what that means.

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    .net is a powerful tool and worth it. you can say all you want about windows but .net is it’s saving grace and drags php in the mud in the multi-platform department and security.

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    Roland (28), That’s what I want to read. You are right: let’s talk about SO’s, because a Mac is a PC … with an apple as brand, but a PC inside.

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    “The other nice thing is that I can do work almost as quickly on my 5-year-old iBook G4 as I can on my brand new 24″ iMac”

    Your brand new 24″ iMac must be pretty darn slow then.

    I own A PC, a Mac(laptop), and my children use Ubuntu. The all have pro’s and cons, but I am much more productive with my PC.

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    This starts all wrong and IS all wrong – I am open to all computers and operating system… and a believer than anything can be done on either system.

    But I have simply not noticed a swing in developers towards MAC – if anything it is the other way around. Anything Open source – sorry most open source work is donw on Windows.

    Fact of life – Windows dominates – switching to Mac means creating difficulties for your self when it comes to making sure it works on Windows.

    Finally if Developers were switching to Mac as you say then I would expect an upswing in Mac application out there, this has not happened.

    This article is WRONG from start to finish (otherwise it is a good article).

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    Macs are NOT more expensive, if you count the time you spend with a PC to get rid of all the hassles, failures and incompatibilities. A simple deinstallation in Windows can cost you so much time that its prize would easily amortize a Mac. I know what I am talking about, because my wife has a PC.

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    I was going through Bruce Tognazzini’s ‘A quiz designed to give you fitt’s’.
    http://www.asktog.com/columns/022DesignedToGiveFitts.html
    And in Qn 5, he points out why the pull-down menus in Mac are five times faster than Microsoft’s and Sun’s applications. A great deal of intelligence have gone into Mac’s UI/Interaction design which makes it more desirable.

    Nice Article, loved it. :-)

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    Why make an article about a point that has been discussed a million times?
    In the end the point are the results, the operating system is just a tool. Just like Photoshop is a tool to create or edit graphics (which runs on both platforms and works the same on either).
    For a (web) developer it doesn’t matter if he uses Textmate, Coda, Dreamweaver or Notepad++. It’s all code he’s putting out, so the results are based upon the skills of the developer. An OSX user won’t put out different PHP than a Windows-based.

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    good article.

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    considering the time we used for all this commenting on winblows related article we could have been builded something usefull in this time. but i have to add, after 5years on mac (now 2nd mbpro) i would NEVER go back to windows, only maybe when gaming is in Q.

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    Hello, I'm pointlesss.

    April 28, 2009 4:56 am

    I’ve been a developer since (insert ridiculous date here) and I’ve always used (insert irrelevant OS here), even on my old (insert old school computer name that makes you sound cool and knowledgeable here). After (insert huge number here) years as a professional, I can honestly say that (insert irrelevant OS here) is much better than any other OS.
    (insert irrelevant OS here) has never given me problem and anyone who says otherwise is just angry and unhappy.

    Also, check out my article on the “Forty-three and a half reasons why albino Uzbekistanians flatulists are switching to Pepsi” (the answer might surprise you). It’s full of facts and pertinent points.

    Buy Pepsi.

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    So 5 reasons to switch to a Mac and 6 reasons not to…hmmm…seems to me that the 6 reasons are much bigger than the 5, too…

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    Number one reason not to use a Mac. It is still very much a closed ecosystem, only half open.

    Reason no 2: Apples inflated ego. Everything i soo hyperbole in their self description. (O yeah, that is totally an emotional argument…)

    Reason no 3: Text based environment sucks! The terminal app is rubbish. The GUI and the CLI do not mirror each other. Not the same names for your folders and files, not the same settings are affected, etc. Power usage is still far away.

    And the main reason: Windows is not the other option. GNU/Linux is!

    BTW. This is just for balance. I actually use a Mac sometimes, Win XP sometimes, but I prefer Linux for most tasks. Especially development.

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    I’m also a huge mac fan, since switching to mac about 4 years ago, never want to go back anymore. Lot’s of issues here I recognize.

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    I’m sorry to say that but this article doesn’t even come close to the quality I’m used to get from Smashing Mag editors. This one is poorly written, clearly the author is just starting his career as a developer and was blinded by the shiny Macs.
    My RSS reader is full of starred articles from SM but this one will get deleted.

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      That pretty much mirrors my sentiment. From what factual or statistical evidence has the summits of this article been derived? With all due respect to the author this amateur opinion piece reeks of bias and sheer propaganda.

      Come on, SM. Is a little academia, objectivity and informational integrity too much to expect from your articles?

      I’m all for intelligent debate regardless of what truths transpire but this article is not corroborated to any satisfactory standard.

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    Cars go from A to B but you don’t tell a customer in a Ferrari garage to get a Ford because it’s cheaper, does the same thing and doesn’t have to look nice? It’s all about the experience.
    I drive a Mac. :)

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    Mac = fisher price activity centres for adults. Computers for people too scared to learn how real computers work.

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    This article is annoying.
    The eternal fight windows/macosx

    I’m a designer and I’m using Windows Vista on a Macbook, with a 22 LCD and common mouse/keyboard… and is GREAT for me.

    Sometimes I test my sites on the OSX… and that’s fine.

    MacOSX have it disadvantages, and you mention it above… That’s why I use Windows.

    But again… this article is very unespacted by me… C’mon Smashings!!! Don’t piss off.

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    Windows advantage = more pirate softwares
    Windows disadvantage = 90% pirated softwares you paid for turned on blue screens and key-loggers/ getting sued by MS and you can’t win no matter what

    Mac advantage = makes designers/ developers “think different”
    Mac disadvantage = 90% of designers/ developers think too different, spent more time showing off and admiring the OS than actually working like a machine

    The winner? No more Computing, go take a holiday and eat healthy

    =P

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    @Derek: CSS is interface and presentation level, it is not functional development. XHTML is a markup language, still not a programming language. And PHP is well, PHP, but no enterprise worth their salt is going to trust multi-million $$$ applications to opensource. So yea, you stand corrected.

    This article more pertains to workflow instead of development. Keep this site revolved around CMS, CSS, and design/interface please. I absolutely love Smashingmagazine for those sorts of topics. If I want coding advice I’ll hit up Codeproject or MSDN, thanks.

    PS. My old co-worker had to replace a video card on his MAC, they charged him 650$ for a GeForce 7400, a card from YEARS ago. Absolutely outrageous.

    The fact of the matter is, you limit yourself by buying a Mac, and not building a PC.

    Apples are great for home use or even design use, but the PC does it all, for less money; there is no reason to spend more $$$$ to accomplish less. And to those touting “my Apple is a Ferrari” or other some such non-sense: Your fools. Wasteful fools.

    The last thing this site needs is the Apple vs. PC and kids coming out of the wordwork spouting off “First!”. Just delete this horrid article.

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    On a side note. Just build your own PC. It’ll be far less expensive, tons more powerful, and you’ll actually learn something.

    I would never, ever, buy a PC or Mac off the shelf these days. And as for aesthetics, you build your own, you have 1000s of cases to choose from. For desktop interface, Vista/XP with minimalist skins, RainMeter and Objectdock look beautiful, as seen in this link below:

    http://lifehacker.com/tag/featured-desktop/

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    Hehe, yeah. Go over to msdn or codeproject and declare that “developers are now switching to mac”. lol. Don’t SM have editorial staff that screens the articles before getting posted?

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    I am a MBP user, I only want to clarify the point that Mac does not have right-click button, that is not true. You only need to go to, System Preferences, Keyboard and Mouse, there you can set up the right-click, it is not by default but it is available.

    Please try OSX.

    Regards,

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    ““it feels intuitive” or “I enjoy using it more” or even “I can’t explain why I like it better, I just do.””

    Those are not valid reasons at all. This article is trash and only makes me more angry the more I read it.

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    The fact that Itunes is not listed as one of the reasons developers are starting to prefer macs, almost makes the article great. So thanks for that.

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    Let me deconstruct your horrid article, since you are clearly not a developer or involved in IT:

    1. Open Source Friendly
    Um. Yea. You can run UNIX VM on a PC, or any other VM. You can even multi boot LINUX + Windows XP etc, using BAT files. If anything, as you stated throughout the article, APPLE is CLOSED! About everything, it’s all licensed; you have to pay more to develop on a Apple then a PC, period. The Open Source movement was anti licensing, exactly the sort of thing Apple does 110%.

    2. Quartz Extreme
    Wow, Direct3D, OpenGL; been on PCs for years; same with 3rd party open source apps that let you switch desktops etc, since Windows 95. The graphics options on PCs is what brought you OpenGL, and all those pretty CGI movie effects you see. They are available now, and more powerful then ever.

    3. Core Animation
    Didn’t you just say that “cloud computing” is the future, yet here you tout a client development feature. You are seriously talking about animations as “flashy”, there are reasons why Gamers who play “flashy” games use PCs.

    4. Built In Tools
    All those tools exist in Windows, and more. Keep calling yourselves “developers” etc. while you are coding in some text program some CSS…

    5. Unified User Interface
    Wow, the interface hasn’t changed in around 20 years! Great job apple, it just got “flashier”. You can drag an image off your Firefox into your Photoshop now, on a PC…sigh

    6. Security
    There is simply less malware out there because malware targets enterprises, who would never, ever, sign contracts for infrastructure for business with Apple.

    7. Textmate, Growl, Quicksilver, and more
    Every one of those apps have multiple free or pay options on Windows or the web. And who in their right mind would develop a multi-million dollar multi-tier application using Textmate…

    8. Quick Look
    Seriously, why is this useful? You probably only have Photoshop and Safari open anyways, since thats pretty much what 99% of all Mac users use. And yes, there is an Alt Tab feature in Windows, its pretty revolutionary, back in the 90s……. ..

    9. Virtualization
    Out of the box, but how much more $$$ for the box? Microsoft offers FREE VM now, for all Windows users. VMWare exists on PC. And yes Browsers most like render the same, and there are sites out there to help with that. And wait, weren’t we on the topic of development? Oh wait, you’ve been talking about “design” since step 1!

    2nd Reason : Intel
    The reason they switched to Intel was because PowerPC chips were trash, period. Plus you repeated your virtualization argument…

    3rd Reason : Less Hassle
    Opinionated Software
    How is this a good thing? Every REAL developer wants full control, and understanding of the solution. Also, you can code Ruby on PCs! Also you are touting out of the box solutions and claiming “development”, you might as well call WordPress “development”. Again, your a designer, clearly, not a developer.

    Support
    LOL, how is this pertinent to development? Are you going to go ask a minimum wage “Gen1us” how you should handle your abstract variables, database queries, page rendering lifecycles? Yea, I thought not. But he’d gladly sell you a new iPhone speaker set for 200$.

    5th Reason : Microsoft
    I don’t think they are perfect. But seriously if you think Apple is NOT designed by committee, then you clearly live in your own little world, or this is your first job. And no, OSX does not run well on an 8 year old Powerbook LOL.

    And oh man, theres the pot calling the kettle black with “they rely on closed formats and standsrds”. Apple is NOT Open Source, its 110% licensing; look into how much it costs to buy development licenses to create some iPhone apps sometime.

    And once again you make yourself look uninformed and NOT a developer, the concept of cloud computing has been here since, well forever, it’s basically just web programming with social networking, get a clue.

    Design and Minimalism:
    Build your own PC! And why are you saying Google and Yahoo are great designs, have you not looked at the showcases on this site??? Have you not seen the amazing 1000s of PC cases you can get yourself and mod all you want? Have you not seen an Enigma/Rainmeter desktop in all its glory? Probably not.

    Anyways. This article is horrid, as it doesn’t even touch on what developers CAN do on a MAC, its just an Apple vs. PC article. I really respected Smashing until this nonsense. Please just stick to design and showcases.

    I am biased toward PCs, because if you really know what you are doing they are a superior platform, period. But if you are an everyday Joe, Macs are great; they allow easy web surfing and some fun apps.

    However. Keep spending $$$ on Apples and PCs, because I like the competition. Microsoft has to try harder now, they were stagnant for a while. And that competition only makes things better for all of us in the end, Apple or Microsoft or w/e.

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    Bah, this article is far from bias but it gives some nice points.

    Macs are overrated and PCs are underrated really. If you have a good machine, you can do whatever needs to get done. Personally, as a developer, the software tools that can come with a PC outweigh what can come on a Mac.

    I have no allegiance to Microsoft, but have no real love for Apple either. I feel like Microsoft is just dogged for being the big guy, this always happens. People like the new kid on the block, and frankly Apple is new because the old Apple (pre-osx) was a terrible company producing terrible things.

    I do give props to Apple, and I use my OS X machine for whatever it can do better than my PCs (which isn’t much beside entertaining things, in my opinion).

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    Mike Alderton-Smith

    April 28, 2009 12:29 pm

    Having run a computer consultancy for the last 15 years, which has focused solely on windows software and IE compliant websites for corporate customers wielding huge numbers of windows machines, Vista was the last straw for us.

    Viruses, crashes, hardware problems. It all added up. With all the settings, tools etc that needed to be installed to get a developer machine running, we could spend two days rebuilding a workstation for our developers once they crashed. Disk imaging went some way to helping, but Vista was so slow and bug ridden, we spent more time fighting with the machines than producing any work. And as for the automatic updates and reboots on our windows servers you have got to be kidding me!

    A year ago just before Xmas I bought a macbook pro. The following march I bought an iMac. Now the entire company uses macs. We have Ubuntu servers, use MySQL instead of SQL Server, and our last windows server is being replaced this month after needing constant attention to update, secure, reboot etc

    We also stopped supporting or developing ANY windows application. We spent two months researching and retraining everyone to use Netbeans and Java.

    With Icefaces and Netbeans, we can create application like never before, collaboration between teams is like OSX, it just works. No downtime, no problems with backups. We just get our work done.

    We tried Microsoft Office 2008 on Mac, found it to be against the mac standards and also it froze up all the time, now we use iWork, iLife and some open source applications and manage to do everything we could do before, without the bloated licence fees and need for hours of tech support.

    It just works. Enough said. I realise that not every company could afford to do what we’ve done, but I would rate Mac above anything else for just getting the job done without editing config files or downloading patches all the time.

    Sure Mac are more expensive, but the money we’ve saved in tech support, licences and sheer frustration, meaning more productivity, more than pays what some people are calling the apple tax.

    Oh, and before some PC guy decides to call me a textedit using CSS designer. I’ve actually been developing in C, C++, Visual C++, Visual Basic, C#, J# etc on a PC for years, I’m Microsoft and Sun certified for development as well as networking, servers etc, as well as using Flash, Photoshop, Adobe Premier/After Effects and the usual multimedia gear, plus I’ve been a PC user since MSDOS first got copied from another well known OS, and flopp disks really were floppy. If someone like me can be productive on Mac and finds that their job is easier and they can get out the door of the office to go home and have a life, then Macs are obviously doing something right. In fact now I use Mac, I actually have time left over to do my gaming on a PC, which there is no doubt is the best supported platform for gaming, although again, hardware and software issues abound… no matter what machine you build yourself.

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    I build and maintain Joomla sites. Mostly smaller sites but a few bigger ones (over 1000 articles)… I have been doing this work in Windows for years. In the past year I have been doing it on a pair of 30″ monitors. Very efficient workflow for me. Apps include VMware for old browser testing.. CS3 and recently CS4, CuteFTP and even notepad. I convert a lot of word and excel docs to html and pdf too.

    I recently started using OSX on a Macbook air… mostly just a internet computer for around the house or in bed watching tv.

    I eventually built a pretty high end hackintosh to attempt to replace the Windows box to do my work. I spent several months on in OSX to find out that it’s a lousy alternative for me. I spent most of my time getting my mouse to feel the same as when in Windows. After buying 2 different programs, I got pretty close. But after about 3 hours I would start getting pains in my wrist. The acceleration curve is just too weird on a Mac.

    I was able to find the EXACT same applications on both platforms. And I found all of them to work better under windows.

    There are LOTS of inconsistancies in the OSX interface too. The dock always confused me. Some programs minimized to the right side of the dock, and some didn’t. Have multiple windows of the same app opened? It gets even more confusing.

    Dual monitor is also very lacking in OSX too. In Windows, your application menus are in the application window. In OSX, your application menus are at the top of the main monitor. Have an application open on the other monitor and you need to go all the way to the other monitor to access the menus.

    In the end, I didn’t find OSX any more efficient for MY workflow and have switched back to my Vista box. I’ve got 2 macbooks and only one runs OSX. 2 fingure scroll and the other multi-touch commands make using a notebook VERY efficient.

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    Still cracks me up that every pro-mac post spurs PC people to start kicking Macs to the ground. Haha. I thought this post was pretty good. At work I develop on a Dell PC, and at home I develop on a 5 year old PowerBook. Personally i’m just much faster on the Mac. And since I’m a web developer I can work on my sites on any platform I want. All computers can break, you can misuse any computer, but if you can afford a Mac and want to be open minded to try it, I think you’ll find it better for development. (Web at least). Thats all.

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    The double mouse button problem can be solved by using a 3rd party mouse with two buttons. The contextual menus are there – it is just that apple doesn’t give you the right click button. But a mouse is a mouse is a mouse as far as a computer is concerned, so you can just plug in the double button logitech that you have lying around.

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    It’s funny that no-one has mentioned that Macs have a better font archiving system out-of-the-box, it’s one of the things that impresses me. Unfortunately, the sheer ‘bang for buck’ issue means buying a mac doesn’t make business sense, especially for fledgling businesses. Having both a mac AND PC at home means that I get to play around with both systems, and to be honest after becoming comfortable with the shortcut keys, there’s really negligable difference. If you want to be a creative in an agency, however, then you will need to practice on both. Otherwise, like has been said before, a good artist will create great work regardles of the platform. I’d always avoid any agency that disqualifies a candidate for the sole reason of not working on their preferred system- it shows incredible-close mindedness on their part.

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    “PC = Corvette
    Mac = Ferrari

    Corvette/PC is more affordable, Mac/Ferrari looks better and has more style.

    Which would you rather have?? Its personal preference, and its about image. Do you really make fun of people driving Ferraris?? I know I dont. Do I make absurd arguments like it gets me to point A just as fast, or the road speed limits make it moot?? No. More power to you if you own a Corvette, and more power to you if you own a Ferrari.”

    When it’s about fuel economy, using your vehicle as a tool to get the most profit out of your business, i’d use the most economic vehicle available. It’s up to me as the driver to get the actual job done, regardless of what I’m actually driving.

    So put me down for a ford transit please.

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    wow…. what a horribly biased article. You’re telling me I should spend over $1000 on a Mac when I can just install Linux and get all the benefits you mentioned, with none of the pitfalls, for free?

    I like this site, but some of the stuff on it is nuts.

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    In response to post #328 from Jessie….

    Open Source can be run on both platforms, but for you to say Apple is a closed ecosystem is comical. Winblows is the most closed platform out there. You think that just because majority of computers out there are Winblows makes it open?? MS is all about proprietary technology….directX, asp, direct3d, Explorer. If you do ANY sort of developing or web design for Explorer, you know that MS is NOTORIOUS for NOT following standards.

    OpenGL was NOT available on Windows 95, only Windows NT. DIrect3D is Microsoft’s proprietary 3d platform, ONLY available with MS. OpenGL is available on any platform. OpenGL wasnt available on Windows until NT came out, and was not sold mainstream until Win XP.

    Apple hasnt changed their UI in 20 years?? Wow you are just dumb.

    Of course Apple is designed by committee…but if you think it isnt designed by the top designers in the industry, you are sadly mistaken. Vista is much better design wise, but it still doesnt hold a candle to OSX< and basically, Vista was all copied from OSX. I remember how arrogant and mocking PC weenies were of OSX and its “eye candy”. Now everyone loves the eye candy of Vista. Yawn. Talk about old news. And sorry, but a 2001 Powerbook runs OSX just fine. You need to get a clue.

    Malware developers target enterprises?? Oh really?? The ones that have staff of engineers and techies working to secure their system?? Or the every day users who dont have a clue how to use a PC…about 95% of Windows users??? Once again, your logic fails you.

    And 99% of Mac users only use PS and Safari?? Really?? I have Dreamweaver, PS, Illustrator, InDesign, Safari, Firefox and Skype all open at once, as well as different folder windows. Most Mac users are designers, isnt that what everyone says?? I know I have always had multiple programs and windows open. I wonder how much more you are going to stick your foot into your mouth….

    Oh yeah, here ya go again….foot in mouth. Most browsers render the same?? Obviously you have NEVER developed for the web. Enough said right there.

    Apple switched to Intel because Motorola and IBM were more focused on non PC chip applications…mobile phones, servers, etc. The G5′s at the time were just as good as any Intel chips out there. The benchmarks proved it. Intel is able to offer however a better roadmap, cheaper prices, and abundancy.

    As for design and minimalism…all the cases for PC are mostly crap, and horribly designed in terms of airflow to hardware. Most PC cases I bought needed to have the entire side of the case left open to allow for air cooling, or the PC will overheat and crash, even with the 4 fans that came with the case. Apple’s cases are BY FAR the best looking cases out there. Their old Quicksilver Mac’s still blow away anything the PC world has to offer. They dont win awards, given by the experts, for nothing.

    You are a clueless hater…typical of the jealous PC weenie crowd. The article in no way was bashing your precious Microshaft platform. It merely was stating a trend in the development world. You are the one who took offense and started blabbering about…..nothing.

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    I’ve been getting tired of Windows to be honest, but using a Mac feels awkward. I’ll probably keep using a PC because:
    1) I like being able to customize things, but I’m also lazy. I’d use linux because I could really customize it, but I feel like it’d be too much work.
    2) I like playing games, and I don’t want to deal with the hassle of running VM/dual-booting in order to run some of my favorite older games (Fallout 1 & 2).
    3) I already have vista. I don’t feel like buying OSX.
    4) I know how to use/build/repair a computer myself.
    5) I’m already used to the PC’s interface.

    Sorry macs :/

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    To the people who say that good designers can design and work regardless of the platform including Linux. I disagree, Linux maybe a great productivity platform but as a Graphics Art, video and design platform it is severely lacking. I’m not going to spend all day listing all its shortcomings but the fact Linux does not have an viable alternative high end image editor equivalent to Photoshop makes it fall flat on its face.

    To the Linux fanbois, show me a professional design company that entrust Linux for its mission critical work.

    None? I thought so.

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    Too bad only the people actually working in the Graphics Design biz actually understand the importance and money value of a good workflow. This is what OSX have in spades.

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    The major thing that I miss on OSX is the Windows Live Writer equivalent, it’s a god send!

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    nice article. MAC rules. :D

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    Yes OSX is cool, that is all that has been said in this advertisement conveyed as journalism. Disappointing, not up to SMs regular standard.

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    mhhh i know mac is perfect. But the price isn’t perfect for me. :( . I wonder why they cant reduce the price. So i’m so sure every1 will buy mac instead of windows (which is really giving trouble with virus. hate it). I wish the MAC management will listen this. :D

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    To reply to post #337 from Steve

    OpenGL was available on Windows 95, try doing some research before spouting nonsense!

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    You guys conviced me, I’m now going to buy a mac, cause every good designer you know uses one. It’s so cool to become a top designer now, cause my creativity was blocked from jealousy so long. Thank you!

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    wow such a “BALANCE” article.. never thought that SM would publish this kind of “article”

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    WOW

    The writer of this article works for apple!!!

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    I can’t afford a Mac. I installed OSX on my PC and it works flawlessly. Plus, it’s dual boot so I can go into Windows if I want to play games.

    There’s only one piece of Mac software that I really love, and that’s Coda. It’s the best environment I’ve had for developing websites and everything is done from one window – editing, preview, FTP, SVN and file management.

    Once I have enough money I’ll buy a Mac, the interface ‘feels’ so good. Everythings so fluid, and it’s NEVER crashed on me. All my favourite applications are there, Songbird, XBMC, Firefox and Thunderbird.

    The only Windows software I miss is TodoList by AbstractSpoon, there’s nothing quite like it on Mac.

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    @348

    ”The only Windows software I miss is TodoList by AbstractSpoon, there’s nothing quite like it on Mac.”

    Have you checked out OmniFocus?
    http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnifocus/

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    @350
    Thanks for the advice. I tried Things but it’s too simple and doesnt really do what I need.
    I found WhatToDo which is pretty good for nested tasks, and I also bought The Hit List as part of the MacHeist bundle.

    I’ll check out OmniFocus.

    The main thing I miss from TodoList is how well the tasks could be bested within each other which was great for developing large websites. It also showed a completed percentage which was always a morale boost after spending hours coding

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    duplicate – delete

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    @Stevie in Post 337

    Wow. You clearly make my arguments stronger. You are either completely illiterate or did not read my counter-arguments.

    Back on Open Source, it’s available on all OSs. If it comes to licensing then Apple is as bad as Microsoft if not worse.

    Yea you OpenGL knowledge is severely lacking. It’s been out for over a decade.

    Apple hasn’t changed their layout in nearly 20 years. UI does not incorporate flashy animations and design. Clearly you don’t know the difference between usability and design.

    ROFL. OSX DOES NOT RUN FINE ON 2001 POWERBOOKS. As for “committee”, you proved my point; thanks for making my counter-argument stronger.

    “Or the every day users who dont have a clue how to use a PC”, yea that would be Apple users.

    “And 99% of Mac users only use PS and Safari?? Really?? I have Dreamweaver, PS, Illustrator, InDesign, Safari, Firefox and Skype all open at once”, LOL, once again; congrats on having some browsers, IMs, and Adobe creative suite open. You proved my point. LOL.

    I said most OSs render the same, browsers do not. Thanks though.

    LOL, you making excuses for PowerPC chips now, that is out of control.

    Yes clearly the Apple original iMacs are so glamorous. If anything you limit yourself to aluminum/steel cases with Apples, building your own PC you can do anything. Thanks for proving my point.

    “You are a clueless hater…typical of the jealous PC weenie crowd. The article in no way was bashing your precious Microshaft platform. It merely was stating a trend in the development world. You are the one who took offense and started blabbering about…..nothing.”

    Sadly I’m not a clueless hater, this article is clueless. It is not development related at all and mainly tries to make product arguments for workflow related tasks and OSX. This is just a terrible article, it may as well be an Apple ad. And no I don’t hate Macs/Apples, I hate retarded Apple buying pseudo-developers like yourself. I think Apples / Macs and PCs are all great, but its the arrogant nature of the uneducated Apple brand whores that really get me going. 99% of the Development world does not use Apple development products.

    Again, this article is stupid. Delete it. And wipe all the Apple fanbois off the face of the planet too while your at it.

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    It is weird if I switched from Mac OSX to Windows? If it is, then I’m glad I did. I’ve been using Mac since the early 90s when my dad bought our first ever computer home. Since then, we’ve always used Mac. I bought my first two ever Windows based XPS laptop & desktop from Dell a few months ago and I love it.

    1. It cost $500 less for the laptop and $1200 less for the desktop with more juice and power not that money is a problem, but $1700 dollars is a nice weekend trip to Disney or about 2/3 for the yankees seasonal ticket.
    2. So much more customization.
    3. Did I mention Games? Before, whenever I finish working I would only occasionally use the Mac to check emails, reply emails, and what’s not. Now, there are tons of free & beta games to try out. I’m actually looking forward to getting off from work to go home and download some new betas to try out.
    4. Upgrade parts without worrying.

    Overall, I’m very happy with the purchase I made and I definitely would do it again. Windows 7 is a step above from Vista and I will definitely upgrade. The Mac is a nice computer to have, but if you have to use it all day everyday without being able to enjoy it, then it becomes very dull. On Windows, there are some shortcomings but they are replaced by all the fun things you can do with it.

    ps: I’ve been using Windows for about 6 months now, and I’ve never experienced the Blue Screen of Death that people talk about all the time. Nor have I ever caught anything harmful.

    The key to a good and healthy computer for PC users are: don’t download anything you don’t know (if you do, scan it first), blocks ads, and do not allow incoming connections unless you specify it. Within 3 weeks of using Windows, I was able to figured out all these things to make my PC more secure than my Mac, I don’t see how people are still getting viruses or whatever on their PC unless those people are truly out of it.

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    @Jesse, 354

    While I’m sure there are people with blinkers on in both camps I often think the ”Mac bashers” are even worse than the ”Mac fanbois”.

    I’d say that more often than not the ”Apple/Mac bashers” are more ignorant going with the old school talk that ”I need right-clicking” (something that you’ve been able to do since Mac OS 8 which was released in 1997) and ”there are not enough applications for Mac OS X” etc.

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    @Matt, 355

    Tell me how it runs in six months or so… ;)

    You have to re-install Windows after some time of extensive use since the Registry gets wacko. Not so on the Mac.

    That isn’t to say that a Windows machine is worthless, but it requires more fiddleing from the user.

    Another thing that differ the Apple’s computer hardware from most so called PC’s is that the Macs use EFI and the PC’s use BIOS. I just got my motherboard’s BIOS wasted on my PC and I have sent it in for repair. I’ve never hear of a Mac that’s got its EFI broken like that. Most users are more happy with a Mac! I’d say about 99% of the people I’ve heard about that’s done the switch are happy about it.

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    Ex Smashing Magazine Fan

    April 29, 2009 8:21 am

    OMG, what a huge pile of crappy arguments!
    You Smashing Magazine guys just really should stick to writing about nice photos, illustrations, designs and whatnot.
    Don’t talk about development or OS or platforms or hardware! Just don’t.

    How many free fancy iPhones did you get for that “article”?
    I really hope you didn’t just write it for some free iPhone Apps!

    P.S. I really do like the design of apple products very much!
    I’m not hating anyone! (Well… maybe the timeconsuming calls from designers – working on a mac – who really have absolutely no clue about anything besides their designs. (Not hating the people, just some of their calls))

    @346 Mike: True that!
    @201 Wilmark: Good one. The TomsHardware article, that’s the article this one should’ve been!

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    @339 Palmer
    “To the Linux fanbois, show me a professional design company that entrust Linux for its mission critical work.

    None? I thought so”

    What mission critical applications are you developing in photoshop? Or does your safari even render the striketrhrough over the word “designers” in the title?

    I won’t deny that Mac is where the heart of the designer is, but this article fails miserably for convincing this developer there is a convincing reason to switch.

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    I don’t get the “2. No Second Mouse Button”. It’s true older Mac’s don’t have this function in the trackpad, (exept with ctrl + click or two finger + click) but all the new unibodies without an actual button you can both right or left click with the pad. You can even choose the side you want to use as your secondary mouse button. It’s all in there in the system preferences.

    I can agree with pretty much everything else, but then i’m also very biased. Worked until a month ago professionally with Windows/PC-support and then it’s nice comming home from work and use a “proper system”. Apple/Mac OS X is just lightyears ahead of the competition in terms of quality and usability.

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    I like this article because of all the reaction, so kudos to SM for the post. Is it accurate? Mostly misguided if anything, but it makes me pleased to know there are developers and designers who know better, as far as a PC vs Mac scenario really goes.

    If you really want to boil it down, and be most productive and accurate as a designer or developer, you should work from a PC. Period. Why? Because only 4% of all internet users are on a Mac OS. It’s really as simple as that. Work for your audience. If not, then have fun designing and trying to be productive for the tiny minority: http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2009/March/browser.php

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    I disagree most of the points in this article. Mac is only great inside its system. Once you try Macports, you’ll know it doesn’t solve the problem very well.

    And I wonder how helpful an IM software such as adium is for a developer?

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    @a Martin, 356

    I’m not against Macs or PCs, they are both great platforms. I am against the radical nature of uneducated Apple fanboi’s. Macs are great for the new PC user (and yes a Mac is still a Personal Computer, PC). But the majority of developers in the real world do not use Macs, period.

    And this article doesn’t belong on such a great website like Smashing Magazine; just delete this article else this place turn into an engadget or macrumors or other such nonsense site.

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    jesse is right

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  365. 371

    Hey Liberation, tell me how this article insults us as readers now? First paragraph was hilarious.

    Someone needs a sense of humor, it seems.

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  366. 372

    The problem with windows is that it is to driven to answer everyone, it doesn’t really do one thing great. You can you ANYTHING with a windows pc. If you can’t do it with a windows pc, you can’t do it with an other system (I am pretty serious here, you notice;)).

    I’ve worked for a few years repairing, configuring and maintaining pc’s. I was so SICK of windows, being such a incapable program, so not thought trough, it discusts me. I hated windows lack of shortcuts, windows bullshit with wizards, windows’ ‘there is always something not optimal syndrome’.

    I wanted a system that i could do my thing on and not to make a hobby of maintaining and organizing my own data. c’mon windows didn’t even have (vista has, ok ok) a descent downloads folder?!

    Mac does a lot of handy things that make working easier and it has to be less of a hobby to maintain my system.

    One thing of absolute notice, the mail client is absolutely awesome in concept. It is simple, intuitive and in depth. The problem is that the mail client is just buggy.

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    Mission accomplished. Most posts ever. :)

    I use both OSX and Windows XP and Vista…but I use them on a Mac. I totally agree that both systems work just fine and the software running on both now is basically the same. As many have said on here, my Macs have always outlasted my PCs…in fact I have to give them to other people because they just…won’t…die. To those who claim Apple’s standards are slipping…go touch a MacBook Pro at Best Buy (because we know you’d never be caught dead in an Apple Sotre, right?) and tell me you still feel the same.

    I buy Macs because I like spending time improving my work, not fiddling with my computer. But I can see why gamers and those who like to tinker buy PCs. Each to their own. I prefer console gaming and am psyched about OnLive. I think it will totally eliminate the line between consoles and PCs…and give PC-users one less reason for buying a PC. Ha!

    Oh…I also think people who say things like “people who can’t afford to buy a Mac aren’t real designers” or those who have never touched a Mac and repeat things they’ve seen published about Macs from 1980 (double button mouse BS!)….are all equally full of crap!

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    Great article, except for one small error – every shipping Apple mouse and trackpad does include a either a second mouse button, or right click feature. http://skitch.com/askegg/bpwr1/trackpad

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    I use windows xp at work and vista at home. I used a macs in college (10 years ago), I think they were g4s at the time. That was back when I was young and overly opinionated because i thought that made me cooler… it didn’t. I always contended that Macs were overrated and I still believe they were at that point, Times have changed but my major complaints still holds true (both of which are mentioned above)… i need the software support and need the ability to easily custom build desktops. it would take a great deal for Apple to get me over the hump. And, to be honest, i’d much rather be friends with the PC than that pompas hipster Mac in those commercial. PC seems like a nice dude.

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    I work with PC and MAC…
    They are good.. but MAC is too expensive and bouth can do the same (actually only person do things – computer is only tool)…

    Choice is yours…

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    Ex Smashing Magazine Fan

    April 30, 2009 6:46 am

    @ 356 Martin:
    “the ”Mac bashers” are even worse than the ”Mac fanbois””

    See, I think this is where you’re absolutely wrong!
    Me personally – I do use a PC in business and at home. I’ve used alot of OS eventually… Windows 3.x, 95, 98, Me, XP, NT, 2000, Vista (using it right now). Every now and then I had to use a Mac for a couple of minutes, when showing coworkers something (which just drove me crazy, because of all this nonsense happening on their screen – but I’m just not used to it, so that’s not a problem). And I certainly did not judge any one of them – I just let them be. They can use anything they want, they can work on whatever makes them happy. I have never ever tried to convince some brainwashed Apple-User to switch to PC! The emotional bond to their brushed-surface-shit is just too strong – and I just don’t care. I’ve seen Macs crashing on a regular basis (like every 120 minutes) and the person using that piece of shit was still loving it! Can you imagine that? That’s when I realized, that there is no need for arguments – it’s an emotional thing. Sometimes I experience that too! I have things that do not work at all, and I’m still keeping them and I still love them. On the other hand this ‘macs-are-better-articles’ pop up every now and then, trying to convince me. And that’s where I really have to say: ‘Guys, don’t try to sell me that crap. Being able to work better, because of better coding apps? Who are kidding?’

    Here’s something to think about: the mac fanbois is out there and thinking they are using higher value technology, that’s better designed and make them look/work better.
    While there is no real pc fanbois – we just use the stupid machines. We do our work, design, code, play games, watch tv, edit our photos, cut our media, you name it – we just use them. When they break we fix them. When they are old we throw ‘em away. We don’t cover the keyboards with fluffy little blankets – we don’t bond with them. Sometimes we like them, sometimes we hate ‘em – but love them? Absolutely not!

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    @357 ” ??? Reinstall Windows? Seriously, I don’t know where people get this stuff. All my PC’s have run fine. I have never had to reinstall and have rarely suffered hangs/crashes. I had more crashes on my G5 MacPro than any PC I have had.

    If you keep your computer (Mac or PC) clean, you should rarely run into problems. Issues usually turn up with muppets downloading and installing every freeware app and game that pops up in firefox.

    In any event, I like my Macbook Pro for most things, but Macs are definitely second tier when it comes to 3D graphics

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    God… I do not know much about the real power of MAC nor of PC… (I am a PC user by default, by the way… because MAC is just too expensive here). As a designer though, I could not live without ADOBE (at least for anything digital… I’m well okay with pen and paper, really).

    So, say, given my situation: Do we get a better CS4 or an elearning suite with a MAC/PC? For as long as they run my suite, I’m fine with it. The ire here, it seems, is when someone claimed supremacy over the other, when PC and MAC are just two different mindsets. No right or wrong. PC has gaming aside from doing real business and designing. MAC is virus-resistant, does designing and keeping lifestyle well, aside from looking really good. Intuitiveness is pretty subjective. I find PC intuitive and MAC kinda confusing, and another would say the opposite, coming from a MAC perspective.

    Take it from #46: Show us your work, not your computer.

    @ #119: How could having both a MAC and PC at home a lie? Unfortunately dear, either MACS nor PCS are “be-all, end-all” machines… Applications dictate that. How could you could you call someone a liar by the mere basis that you own a MAC and you find it oh-so-amazing?

    To everyone, the lesson here is: Don’t think that you’re better just because you find your side of the fence better. Sometimes, the patch is indeed greener on the other side. To each his own… and other cliche stuff applicable.

    and to the author…. er… the strikeouts and edits proves to show that 1) you haven’t done your research well before publishing and 2) you don’t seem to have the maturity to back up your initial article… And I thought you’re all up for this? Kudos for getting so many hits in your infamy.

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    Hey look! The Santa Monica Apple Store! nice.

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    um ye you forgot to put a requirements section at the bottom
    You need to be gay

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    HEY! I do have an MBA. I still love my mac. Some of us have decided to get a little more experience and education beyond our technical and/or creative expertise. Seems to me that’s commendable and makes us better developers/designers… not worse.

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    If OSX’s mouse acceleration wasn’t as shit as it is I’d probably switch.

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    Im a recently mac user switched from pc world. I like mac better now in almost everyway possible. Only two things i really think could be better.

    1. Mac Mighty Mouse is really uncomfortable and in every mac i’ve touched seems rather not that precise as other mice out there. I had to switch to my beloved microsoft optical mouse.

    2. Finder is good but not as good as Windows Explorer. Maybe a matter of getting used to this but windows explorer is much more efficient to use… sorting and grouping files by type, date, etc etc. Finder only orders by those criteria but does not group or sort.

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    I agree with DavidA above in saying that half the commenters here are downright idiots.

    I graduated a few years ago from a tech school (New Media Design & Imaging degree) and the first thing I noticed was the growing number of Mac users – not within my (mostly design-oriented) major (that’s always been the case) but among my IT and programmer friends. Mac OS X being Unix based is HUGE, and this article is spot on in that regard.

    I grew up as a Mac hater, and hated all the snobbery like the haters here. As a college student, I couldn’t even afford a new Mac (nor would I have wanted one.) At that time though, a friend was selling his old G4 iBook to to buy a Powerbook. He asked me if I wanted to buy it from him and my reply was “hell no”. His reply: “why don’t you borrow it for a few weeks…”. In the end, I had that laptop for years until it died (incidentally, of a logic board error).

    As a lifehacker productivitist and real web developer (not a designer or CSS webpage styler) working on both the Mac hardware and OS is a dream. Quicksilver is hands down the best app in existence. Adium is hands down the best instant messenger (AOL, MSN, Jabber, completely skinnable via css/javascript, etc) in existence. TextMate is hands down the best text-editor in existence. Then there’s Transmit, Grow, and Screenflow. Seriously folks – you can’t make apps in those categories better. Throw in built in support for Ruby, PHP, Apache (and this stuff works just like it would on your real web server, not some weird emulation) and for me, it’s all over.

    (And for the strong at heart: While most Mac users are fine sticking with the silky top half of the OS X interface (read: regular desktop applications) there’s a whole world of features deep inside the operating system accessible via the command line. For instance, I can set up a cron job to regularly SSH into my websites, download the server logs, parse them for certain information, and alert me (via Growl or email) of any issues (this coming from a guy who graduated with a design degree). As a 6 year veteran of the Mac, I am still learning extra little things that I wasn’t aware of.)

    I could care less about the magic glow around Apple. I think it’s retarded that I can’t sync my iphone to more than one itunes library. I agree with a commenter above that the rounded-shape puck mouse was the worse invention in history – something that Apple should cover their faces in shame about (I myself will never forget it) – but what they’ve created in the end can be summed up in two words personally, a joy. I really don’t care that it costs a few hundred dollars more – computers are at the center of my profession, my job, and my life – I own two macs (a 17″ I keep one work and a 13″ for travel). I really think for most of you, that if a computer is as much a part of your life as I think they are, the “too expensive” argument is moot. It was different in the past, but these days you can get a Mac for as cheap as $999 or a Apple refurb for $849 (I’ve bought Apple Certified reburbs before with no problem.)

    I also still have a PC, too. It’s top of the line and I built it myself. The video card on it costs $400 – and Left 4 Dead is awesome on it. But these days, the only thing I mainly do on it is remote desktop in to it to check my torrents – it’s essentially reduced to just being a server.

    Saying that, I don’t expect you to hop on the Mac bandwagon – and also if you did there’s no guarantee that you’d like it. I’m beginning to think, like learning a new language, that after a certain age it’s just really hard to switch. My good friend and coworker at work is a bonifide Window IT guy. He decided to see what all this Mac buzz was about and had work get him a 15″ Macbook Pro. He’s in love with the hardware (from the shell, LCD, long battery life, to the fatigue-reducing keyboard) but couldn’t get used to the OS. After three weeks, he ended up formatting and installing Windows on it (he dislikes Vista and upgraded to a prerelease of Windows 7). To this day he still says the hardware is the best he’s ever used and still uses it.

    So in the end, I’d have to say there are a few quirks about the Mac that I don’t like, but generally, they are insignificant compared to the joy and productivity it gives me. It may be different for you like it was for Bryan, but I’ll be sticking with it until the next best thing comes along (which I don’t forsee unless Google makes an amazing OS [most likely also based on Unix] or some flavor of Linux really hits mainstream.)

    Other thoughts:
    I agree that the Mac Mighty Mouse is annoying. Not many non-Mac users know that if you plug-in a cheap 3rd-party mouse to a Mac the right click will work like normal. I love the Kensington 72121 ($17 MSRP). I program the extra left-side click to show my desktop and the right-side click to show all open apps.)

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    Personally, I’d advise against switching the modifier key, in that there is a good reason for it (consider the finger distance between Command/Windows key and Z,X,C,V as opposed to the CTRL-V strech).

    The other reason, of course, is that Unix apps tend to be CTRL sensitive (which was the whole reason that Command key was introduced back in the 80s – the need for a new shortcut key, while still supporting existing CTRL shortcuts.
    However, Windows had to support the millions of existing PCs out there so had to go with a key that could be found on existing keyboards . . . then by the time most keyboards had the extra optional Windows key it was all too late).

    Personally, I’ve got to the point where I can easily swap between the two systems without often making an error (especially since the Citrix and Parallels apps allow Command to be mapped to CTRL in Windows when running from an OS X host).

    The same applies to maximising windows – it’s interesting to note people new to OS X try and do this, even when there is no logical reason (for instance, Safari has opened to the actual size of the web page). When I first encountered OS X I couldn’t understand why my brother had a complete mess of open windows all over the place, but now I often find myself frustrated with how difficult it is to get the same view on Windows, or trying to drag a piece of text directly to the Outlook icon to create a new mail.

    Do I like it 100%? No – there are a lot of areas I hope they improve – I really like the ability to do single app ‘expose’ on Windows 7 from the Taskbar.

    As for expense – if you are a software developer or designer, you should be using whatever makes you the most productive. I’m not saying Macs necessarily are – if your main thing is Photoshop work you may get better performance on a Windows box, for a web server running mySQL and Apache, Linux is a better choice. But it’s a foolish bargain to save $500 now, but pay for it in 15 minutes lost productivity per week (work out how long that will really take to pay back at your commercial rate).

    Far too many IT decisions are made that way, often because IT capital costs are in a completely different budget – even when it’s our own (we often decide what we can afford, and then see what we can get, rather than what we require, and how cheap we can get it).

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    LockWesMonster

    May 5, 2009 12:41 pm

    I prefer Mac because I like it better.

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  382. 388

    just computers…
    the talent is in your brains… to be fair; most competitive developers and designers just need a computer, no matter the OS.

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    to Mauvis

    I just can’t understand why You need 3 computers ? I have 15.4 laptop with vista and can do all Your described thinks.

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  384. 390

    mikemike said it all already.

    I’m a PC proudly running Windows 7 – and Apple sucks. Thanks for the stupid article, couldn’t be more useless..

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    I’m a software engineer – I work mostly on server-side enterprise Java systems.. and I don’t know of a single engineer that uses a MAC. Servers are mostly Linux, or else Windows – users out there on the web are practically all on Windows machines.. And while this is true:

    “..despite the efforts of Ubuntu it is still a ways off in terms of being a turnkey solution for most people..”

    The title of this article is why developers are supposedly switching to using Macs – not most people. The “genius bars” and beautiful design are wonderful – but for developers? Professional technologists? Who cares about genius bars – they don’t even exist in the vast majority of the world – who cares about the beauty of the machine or the zippy graphical tools when you’re going to be mounting your finished masterpiece onto a command-line managed Dell-box in a rack someplace.
    In my experience, the reality is that developers try to use whatever is most similar to the server in order to develop (to try to limit surprises during deployment), and/or whatever most users are using in order to test during development (to try minimise errors on the most popular platform). This just makes for the most efficient development process. Since Mac on both the server and client sides constitute just a tiny proportion of the market – it makes no sense to introduce a Mac into your environment – it’s just unnecessary extra complexity.

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  386. 392

    The Cake is a lie…and your Macs are PCs too.

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    I think if you are a designer or a just normal computer user, Mac may be good to switch to. But like P. Anjout on post no.386 said, Mac is not a good platform or not even a platform for most Coders. and it is not good for people like trying new softwares frenquently as so far the number of Windows/Linux softwares is much much larger than the number of software for Mac.

    Some people I know why use Mac is for following reasons:
    1. He/she is a (graphics/web) designer.
    2. Treating Mac product is a Fashion icon. It is COOL using a Mac in public place.
    3. Working for Apple or Adobe : – )

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    I’m a graphic designer and professional developer and don’t get this.

    I’ve built a Q6660 with 4GB of Ram 2 years ago for like 1000 bucks. Why the fuck would I want a mac? With the saved money I bought an 24″ tft from EIZO. Luxology Modo runs, Maya runs, Adobe Photoshop / Illustrator / InDesign etc. runs, Git runs, Ruby runs, Visual Studio runs, Mercurial runs, Postgres runs, SQL Server runs, I can boot into Ubuntu, can actually install a GTX 260 and easily upgrade my box (unlike the iMac), can virtualize Mac OSX / hackintosh with VMWare.

    Why the fuck would I want to buy on overpriced piece of INTEL hardware?

    Windows 7 is fast and stable. I’ve a Mac / PC setup at work and the Mac is nowhere near as reliable as you guys claim.

    My iPhone is slow as fuck and regularly crashes.

    Aesthetics and functionality should be an integrated approach and Apple overdid it with removing the anti-glare option on most Macs. What a graphic designer would want to work without anti-glare?

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    I know this is geared toward more static design but I started using a Mac for one simple reason . . . Final Cut Pro. This is simply the most powerful complete Film Video package around. Not every app within FCP is top-of-the-line but they are getting better all the time. The fact that such a powerful color grading program is included in this package is unbelievable.

    Again, there are other ways to accomplish these jobs but a Mac looks downright cheap when it’s used extensively in Film/Video. I was forced to switch to Mac for my job but I haven’t really looked back since.

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    FrankG (comment 54.)

    What are you talking about!?! The reason why you got burnt was because you hired the wrong designer. I agree with Milos (comment 11.) “Good designers deliver good work no matter what tool they use.”

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    Since many uses Windows in my country, it will be so difficult when Mac gets a hardware problem. You never realize how hard to deal with the machine problem unless you get one. I tended to switch to Mac so many times but I finally stay with PC cos of the above reason. And of course, Mac is far more expensive than PC, though.

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    For me, not being able to resize the windows from all edges is a single most frustrating thing about OSX. The lack of keyboard support to move and resize windows is even more frustrating. For an OS that touts usability this is just annoying. I was so frustrated that I even wrote a tool to solve these issue. See MoveResize tool.

    Secondly, inconsistent behavior of maximize button is inexplicable for an OS that claims consistency.

    In fact, if you read many of the reasons above, closely, they are in fact limitations or inconsistencies of Mac OS – which some how become “advantages” – strange.

    Plainly, I like the sleek “look” of Mac OS. I do not like the “feel” of Mac OS – which IMHO – for getting the real work done is more important. I simply customize my Linux or Windows to look like Mac OS and enjoy the “feel” of Linux and Mac – which by the way is easy to do on Linux and Mac.

    I have to say that drag and drop is applied quite well in places on Mac OSX. However, it is starting to be applied equally well in Windows and Linux.

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    Errr… I meant to say “enjoy the “feel” of Linux and Windows – which by the way is easy to do on Linux and Windows.”

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    I am PC although I love Mac and would love to have one. But it is absolutely disgraceful how much a mac costs. For $1890 I can get a LATPTOP with Dual Core 2 with 8 Gig Ram, 512 MB N Videa grpahics card, 2TB Harddrive and everything my heart desires. And for that matter it will be cheaper than $1400. But, then, even with my state of the art machine I will be looking at mac and downloading window blinds to transform vista so it looks like a mac. And even with all my customization and transformation having it look and sound just a like Leopard, I will still realize that it is so far from that wonderful Leopard experience.

    Please somebody. Buy me a mac.

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    very good point on #8.

    you got the point Dieter!!

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    very good point on #8.

    you got the point Dieter!!

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    I’m currently studying Graphic Design in University, and they keep hassling us to convert to Macs, yet none of them can really give me a better reason to do so than “it’s industry standard” or “it’s more efficient.”

    From my experience I’ve used a PC all my life, and have only recently started using Macs at University (however, only because that’s what they have available for the Graphic Design school). And I must say, yes, Macs can multitask better, though a PC can overcome this by having some extra RAM. From my experience using both, the Adobe Suite works exactly the same apart from the shortcut keys, as I constantly save work to a USB, take it home to my PC, work on it, take it back to the Mac while I’m at University, work on it some more etc… I have no hassles there.

    I admit the Macs look heavenly, and I get jelous of their beautiful designs, they really win with aesthetics, but then the price makes my aggrivated. I almost bought the top-end MacBookPro, only to realise for the same price I could buy a descent car to get me going, or two Full HD LCD televisions. I suddenly realised how much money it would cost and turned sour on the whole idea.

    They are more expensive because they are better designed, yes, but it’s obvious they make it so much more expensive then it needs to be. They have the design market brainwashed, making them think they are “real designers” if they have a Mac.

    Being hassled to buy a Mac has really done my head in, but I continue to look at it logically (as in, not just follow the craze as a designer). At the end of the day, there is no perfect reason why all designers should migrate to the Mac. At the end of the day designers need the Adobe Creative Suite, and as long as they do the same thing on both systems you can make your own choice whether to buy one or not.

    As for me, I’d rather keep my PC, and upgrade it once a year rather than being totally annoyed by buying a brand new Mac, only for a new model to come out a few months later and have to lose $1000 or so by selling it and buying anew for something slightly better, mostly aesthetic to be sure. If I do end up doing so, it would be beause I will be doing Web Designing and I’ll probably buy something like the Mac Mini (cheapest of the bunch, yet still overpriced for what’s inside) to test things on.

    I personally don’t like the way the Mac OS X displays windows, giving the program’s panel up the top of the screen. It really gets me confused as to what is currently open or not. And not being able to make programs full screen such as web browsers and Photoshop is frustrating. I am more comfortable working with Windows (I work with XP), and with Windows 7 coming soon, I’m sure it will give me an offering of some of the eye candy that Mac OS X offers too.

    That’s my 2 cents worth anyway from experience with both platforms.

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    Stupid motivations for stupid people. You’re a Mac fanboy not a developer or designer.

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    lol this is awesome, has anyone read the thing about it being for Developers and not for Designers. Noobs

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    What a discussion… I think many people who say mac is worse have never used one.

    Mac is way better than Windows, it’s not because YOU mac haters can’t afford one that it isn’t as good as a Windows. Cause every mac user knows that it’s a thousand times better!

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    I’ve used both Mac and Windows, and I must say I feel more at home with Windows. Though I’m not a Mac hater.

    I’ve heard the only real solid argument against Windows for Designers (away from all this “I prefer…” and subjective choices) is that Mac OS X handles fonts better, which is why printing presses use them etc. I’ve heard that they won’t accept files sent to them from a PC, is this true?

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    Well, I believe this article has caused once again the infamous Mac Vs. PC turmoil it usually does. I’m starting to think that you guys write these articles just to get more comments.

    I worked with Windows for 3 years, learning Photoshop, Flash. Then, one faithful day my mother came home with an iMac. At first I was mystified by the thing. Why did the windows not maximize properly, where the hell was the file bar, where did my minimized window go?

    After a few days of playing around with it, I was addicted to that thing.

    It runs a whole lot smoother than Vista, looks better and has a lot more productive features, particularly Expose and Spaces.

    Bash on me, PC haters. Go go go!

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      @Marc Ambrose: your mum must be loved you so much. My mum never bring me an imac untill today. :p

      Btw, I use a hackintosh back home on my notebook. Actually that first came with vista, but it was so slow (even though I’d put 2 GB or RAM on it). So I switched to xp pro.

      One day lat year, my mind flashed back to 1996-1998, the time when I first read about apple cloning, and then I never stop dreaming getting myself an apple(mac) since then. But because I can’t afford (till now), I installed a hackintosh side to side with xp.

      After 2-3 days surfing here and there, snow leopard finally runs on my nb. Although I have to wait for 2 minutes each time I boot this hackintosh – due to the intel’s graphic chipset driver problem – & I cannot get a higher resolution, I must admit that there is something in this os x that attracts me more than m$’s to me. The fact that I cannot install certain application (maybe because it’s a cracked version of os x – I won’t complaint) , I really enjoy using it and never switch to windows again. So I decided that one day – next year or sooner – I will get myself a mac. I just can’t stand any longer waiting for my mum presents me an Imac (just kidding with this last line). That’s all.

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    Zitat from:

    8. Dieter Mueller (April 26th, 2009, 2:30 pm)

    “How lame.

    I am a freelancer since 1989 – using both Macs & PC. Maybe five but certainly ten years ago there were REAL reasons to use a Mac: better fonts, better applications, better hardware (how that has changed – Macs are basically Intel clones today and Apple’s production standards have slipped in some products) more stable production environment. Today Photoshop is Photoshop (or any other important design tool) – no matter on which box you run it on.

    A good designer delivers good work NO MATTER which tool he uses – even when it’s only pen and paper. Stop that techno & brand fetishism – do some good work instead.”

    now its me:

    Really lame, its just about the image. Apple has a nice clean Design. For shure! You love it as an Designer or developer or whatever. But i use windows at home. Its more flexible and developers can do every job on this platform. i think the macDesign is really good and the biggest point why you love it. My windows pc is build up from single parts by my own i installed an customized windows and that feels really personal to me. Why do you say my mac? he looks the same like all the other once :-) Why should i pay alot of money for a brandname. I dont trust both of them but apple looks more like the big company wich closes the doors for other companys. i hate ipods! :-D i hate the i muhahaha and the cake is a lie!!! So for every one a piece of cake!

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    Juliany, do you have problems sending files from a PC to offeset printers and printing presses etc? Because it is what I fear, sure you are paying more for a Mac because they are built better, but a large some of that price is just the brand, hence you are paying for the brand name.

    A friend of mine at uni bought one, $4000 AUS, and she’ll be paying it off for the next 2 years! It’s too much money. Instead of buying a Mac I upgraded my computer to 3.12Ghz Intel Core Duo, 4 GB RAM (3 actually, until Windows 7 comes out and can recognize more than XP) and bought a Wacom Cintiq 12WX Graphics Tablet, still for much cheaper than a decent Mac Book Pro.

    I still have to buy a laptop at the end of the year, and while I’ve recently found some laptops from Dell that look great too and at half the price. Tt the back of my mind I’m wondering if not getting a Mac is a smart decision. How many problems will I encounter in the future using a PC (like fonts especially) or is it basically designer fetishism?

    I really believe a designer will produce better work with what he is comfortable with. Heck, traditional pen and paper designers are still out there and produce fantastic work that could beat digital based stuff.

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    I recently made the switch – sorta. I have a MacPro and run mac os, vista, and linux on separate hard drives. Currently I switch between the tools depending on what I am doing. I design in Mac because photoshop and illustrator are simply faster especially when I am doing billboard graphics. However, I code in windows. I prefer my current set of tools and they aren’t available in Mac. Linux is my playground :)

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    I feel like I’m the only person who dislikes the interface with Macs. I strongly dislike the one-button mouse (especially years ago when the mouse was perfectly circular), the GUI, and the location of various aspects of the system. I don’t find them intuitive at all! I do like the operating system base, but I’ve done web development/design on Windows machines for years and even after almost a year of using a Mac at work/at school, I still won’t make the change.

    I’m of the same opinion as a lot of the responders that Mac is the “hip” and “trendy” thing to do. At my college a lot of our programmers call it “trendy garbage”. Not worth the price for the small benefit.

    I’m also a gamer and most games are not compatible with Macs, unfortunately. Further fueling the fire for me NOT to get one.

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    I don’t see your point of claiming Mac’s security. The number of exposed (publicly known) bugs does not represent how many bugs are actually inside the OS. It might be simply because Windows (for example) has a larger user base and received more attention on its security, thus more bugs are found. There have had been projects like the Month of Apple Bugs, Month of Kernel Bugs that reveals a lot of bugs in a month. All I am saying is you need statistical references to support your reasoning unless you are an expert of this particular domain.

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    Ah, the PC vs. Mac debate.

    I have both. I don’t think I’ll ever buy an Apple desktop, and I don’t think I’ll ever buy a Windows-based notebook. Apple knows how to make good notebook machines – well-designed cases, useful function buttons and decent aesthetics. But the standards are slipping a lot – what the hell is up with this glossy obsession. I can see more of my face than I can the screen, unless I start burning my eyes with the ridiculous backlight.

    For me, the Mac OS (7..8,9,X) has always been a long way behind windows in terms of pure utilitarian usability. With the one exception of the Expose task switcher – that’s been a godsend on my portable use. But Expose isn’t anywhere near perfect. It’s always been a lot slower than Windows, the features you list up there are largely useless to me, or superficial. OSX doesn’t have a unified UI and you know it. Quartz Extreme isn’t a big deal – Vista/Win7 have the same class of compositing UI engine – and you really don’t gain much other than eye candy (which, coincidentally, slows one down). Security is a non-issue – Mac OS has issues, Windows has issues, and neither is more or less open-source friendly than the other.

    When it comes to third party apps, if you’re a home or hobby user, Apple’s got your back – TextMate is neat, Growl is great, and Adium is smooth as butter. But for bigger apps, Windows is many years ahead. The Adobe Creative Suite runs better on Windows – and you can downgrade to CS1 or 2 for some apps if you’re sick of Adobe’s UI & performance bullshit. Try that on an Intel Mac – yeah, didn’t think so. Java apps run better on windows. IDEs on Mac OS X are terrible compared to their windows counterparts. Even multiplatform Java-based IDEs like Eclipse and NetBeans just work a lot better on Windows (thanks to Java on OSX…).

    Really though, the biggest motivating factor for me right now is the fact that on the desktop, I can get almost twice the performance for half the price, and I’m not locked down to Apple’s hardware, so a year later I double my performance again for a quarter the price of a new mac. Notebooks are different – you’re locked in either way, and Apple makes a superior machine – or at least, they used to – I’m not so sure anymore.

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    Kim, you’re not the only one who feels that way. I hate the mouse (I mean, it feels nice in your hand but the lack of the right click is frustrating, meaning you have to always have your left hand at the Control button unless you activate the second click which isn’t always 100% accurate. Not to mention those side buttons that get clicked accidentally at least once every hour.)

    I really like the look of OSX but hate all the windows piled up on each other and it gets messy. I still love Windows and can’t wait for 7 to be released so we can finally have some eye candy of our own.

    I agree they make some sexy notebooks, and I’d expect to pay a little more for the sturdy build, but I just can’t see the justice in an extra $1000 AUS for something I can get in another laptop. Everybody at my uni is buying macs because the lecturers are leading them to believe it’s 100% neccessary, and these kids are only getting it because they like using the OSX and they want in on the Mac craze so they ‘feel’ like a designer. I personally like the look of the Mac laptops but won’t buy one because I cannot justify spending $4000 AUS for a decent Macbook Pro.

    I’m gonna do a flip and buy a Dell laptop cause I still can’t get used to OSX and hate the idea of it all just being a craze. I like the look of Dell laptops, as they seem to be catching up (slowly) to Macbook’s aesthetics and I can get a better one for almost half the price. Though I wish laptop manufacturers would stop making their laptops glossy, as it just looks like a smudgy mess after a while.

    But yeah, Kim, it does seem like just the “craze” for designers, making you feel like you’re not a designer unless you have a Mac. But I must say this, it’s us who are the designers, not the machines. ;) Stay strong, fight the current.

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      @Matt: uhmmm…I use an 8$ logitech mouse on my hackintosh. It has 2 buttons on it and runs well as it does on xp.

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    I’d like to offer a few additional points that I feel the article missed on.

    1. The mouse: I use a regular Logitech mouse and it works just fine. I left/right click just like on my Windows machines. There is no difference. The apple mouse my Macs came with had the single click thing, but you don’t have to use them. And I’d ask, why would anyone anyway?

    Don’t know why people keep talking about one-button mouses.

    2. About the price point. I have a Dual G5 w/4 gigs ram I bought in 2008 for $700 (in fact, I bought a 2nd one too). It’s an old system of course, yet I do all my Adobe CS 3 work on it, edit videos, produce audio via GarageBand and more—all without issue. I’ve even played WoW (thankfully, I’ve broke that addiction). Unlike with PCs, you really don’t need to upgrade Macs that often.

    Personally, I prefer Macs, but have both. Before OS X, Macs weren’t even on my radar, but since then it’s been heavenly. :)

    BTW, I’m also a professional writer/editor and switched from Word to Pages. It’s much, much better overall. That program has really come along. Pages 09 is a dream–from writing/editing books to creating newsletters.

    However, debates on which is better is a pointless waste of time.

    Use the system you feel comfortable with and go with that.

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    windows-like maximize can be enabled on a mac with the free app RightZoom =awesome

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    streetleveltech

    June 11, 2009 3:45 am

    One problem I have with this, and so many other “Macs-are-better-than-PCs” articles is that the writers can’t seem to distinguish between the operating system and the software that the manufacturer bundles with the operating system. The “built-ins” are not the operating system. They should more accurately be described as “add-ons.”

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    Are you correct in stating “OSX is the only OS you can get that can virtualize all three major operating systems out of the box.”?

    My understanding is that OSX does not virtualize operating systems out of the box, you have to install software to do it. Parallels and VMWare fusion are commercial products, although Virtualbox is a free download, nontheless they require downloading and installing – this is not really considered to be out of the box in techy circles.

    MIcrosoft and Linux based operating systems can both do this with freely downloadable software so I fail to understand why you say OSX is the ONLY OS that can do this?

    If you mean Bootcamp then this is not really virtualization since it is dual booting the system, again this is not new or exclusive to OSX since you can dual boot any system to run operating systems compatible with the hardware.

    So all in all I really don’t see why this is an advantage over other operating systems since the process of virtualizing a different operating system is essentially the same on all (I’ve done this on Windows, OSX and Ubuntu).

    Other that this I like the artcle and I’m enjoying my recent mac conversion!

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    An article that lists five reasons why WEB DEVELOPERS are switching to Mac ought to pertain to developing websites. Simply stating the core animation is better in OS X than Windows is not a good reason to switch!

    Here, I’ll give you three good reasons to get you started:

    1) Native POSIX compliant filesystem
    2) Native GNU userland tools, i.e. SSH, rsync and the like
    3) Ability to run Apache, MySQL and PHP locally

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      I do heavy web development every day for a living. Personally, I have switched back and forth mac to pc a bunch of times. I started on mac, with an LCIII. Ancient thing. Then went up to a beige G3. OS8/9 was such a horrific shitshow that crashed constantly and always had extension conflicts when you installed something new – believe it or not, I actually bought a professional program that was made specifically to ease the process of resolving extension conflicts LOL!!! It would systematically disable certain extensions then restart the computer, and you would tell it if you still have the issue. Absolutely arcane. Anyways when I got into gaming I built a pentium 4 rig and had that for about 5 years. I liked it, but then for college I got a macbook pro and fell in love again. After I started developing professionally, I officially moved to windows 7 and stand by it. I prefer the interface, and the breadth of software available for windows. The ONE AND ONLY REASON that I prefer mac is that font management is by far and away better on mac. Id also like to add that I professionally did graphic design for 2 years on a mac, so I know what I’m talking about. Everything else, you can do on windows. The arguments for using a mac for development – ability to run *nix software and have the cli, are really not the best arguments because – 1. You can easily run a LAMP stack on windows with a single click – try XAMPP. 2. Package management on OSX is so horrific that I would not want to even bother trying to work with the horror show that it is. Ideally I would develop ON a ubuntu box, however I chose windows so I could easily run the adobe creative suite. I can still use XAMPP for local testing, and the majority of the time, I am ssh’ed into our ubuntu testing box and our centos production server anyways. I use winscp, so any files I edit are uploaded to the remote system immediately as soon as I save them. Then it’s as simple as using putty to interact with the cli just as if you were sitting at the system. There is really no downside. And dont even get me started on how much better apt-get, yum, ppa’s and rpms are compared to the OSX shitshow. You guys can keep your OSX.

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    I agree with mallchin for those three points above, although number 3 is debatable :)
    Every platform has its own quirk and strength, and which one you love most is yours to choose, but then, what matters most is the usability of the tool not what the tool is, IMHO.
    I’m a designer/developer for 15 years, working on projects ranging from websites, multiplatform desktop application, mobile application, to embedded devices. I even had a taste of SGI Irix back in its heyday, so i guess i can call myself a developer, am i ? so then here is my thoughts :
    if you want the power of POSIX/UNIX, but couldn’t care less for those make files, get a Mac
    if you want stable but cheap platform, get Linux.
    if you think command line and terminal is cool and powerful, get Linux or Mac.
    if you are IT pros but want to sneak up and slacking behind your boss playing games, get Windows.
    if you are IT pros want to be busy cleaning up viruses and spyware all day for the rest of your career, you must love Windows unconditionally.
    If you call yourself designer/developer/IT professional but still fighting over which platform is better than the other… just get a life.

    as for me :
    I love my Mac
    I don’t use Quicksilver, as i’m happy as long Mail, Firefox, Terminal, Eclipse, Textmate, Expose and Spaces can get along nicely
    I’m using USB 3 buttons mouse on my Mac
    I use Linux on my server, and company servers as well, along with those virtualization bells and whistles to optimally utilize redundant server resources.
    The company I work for sells mostly Windows only devices.
    I still use Windows because multiplatform software i created needs to be tested on it, and also because that family PC needs something everybody is familiar with
    Nothing is wrong with Windows, it’s bloated, but most people can live with such bloat, so i can not say that they are wrong either, they just don’t have as many choices as i have.

    And the reason I love Mac the most : I can have a house and a Mercedes from all those work I did on my Mac, and oh… add to those a great family… then i couldn’t ask for more reason why I shouldn’t switch to ( and love ) Mac :)

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      I have been using mac for 20 years, windows for 10. In all of that time, I think I got ONE virus on windows, that was on XP, and I got it from downloading dodgy software on P2P networks. That was asking for it. Besides that incident, I have never had any other viruses on windows. If you keep your system patched and up to date, and don’t frequent dodgy websites or download dodgy p2p stuff, use some common sense, you will be fine. Sorry, osx is a poor excuse for a *nix system.

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    I personally use both windows and mac daily. I prefer mac, but it’s not for everyone or every project for that matter…

    The big picture here is that we use these machines for work, entertainment, etc. Windows and Mac are excellent tools that help us all tremendously to achieve our everyday tasks. I may be a mac fanboy, but give Windows credit they have a good ad campaign going and you cannot beat the price.

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    Hi there, i wanted to switch to mac about 3 month ago. Sold my Windows system and bought a Mac Pro with 2 Graphic Cards installed so i can run my 3 Screens. I need these because i got many apps running at the same time. After the first day i found the biggest problem that actualy made me install Windows on my Mac and switchback. If you have your app on diffrent screens the menubar of the app will allways stay on the primery screen, witch make you run back and forward between your screen and loos precoius time! i have not found any patches either to make the menubar stick to the app window. the solutions avaliable are far from aceptable.
    SO NOW I AM RUNNING VISTA 64BIT ON E VERRY VERRY EXPENSIVE MAC PRO :-(
    If there will ever bee a solution for that problem i will deffinetly start using OSX !
    Greetings from germany— GIO

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    Few more things to add:-
    1) AppleScript
    2) Keyboard shortcuts

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    Marketing 101 – How to turn your product’s downside into a selling point

    Problem:
    There’s lock-in and broken things by design

    Solution:
    Turn into a selling point claiming it’s “Opinionated Software”

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    Hi dudes!

    I am designer and I use VIsta 64 Ultimate.

    I love it.

    I wanted to buy a mac, because I was sick of this boring XP icons and pixels around, but for really small cash I upgraded my PC and I put Vista on it and I love it. And i just forgot about expensive macs.

    I have 8 gigs of Ram, the vista is running so smooth, so good, no problems, everythig is just perfect.

    I don’t mind mac, but all the programs I have are for windows, I feel more free to go deeper in the stuff and make whatever I want from my windows and guys, it is stupid to make from Vista Leopard Looking shit. Just use your vista.

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    And in fact, these are just MACHINES!!!!

    Its a crap, u just need to make your work, get your money and go out with your family, analog family I mean, analog wife, girlfriend.

    thats all.

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    I love MAC!!!

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    I am a Mac lover, ( im french sorry for my english )

    But ! Im working in the Digital film industries. Im doing video etiting whit 4k raw footage ( 4096 x 2160 each frame at 24p ) Full hd is 1920-1080 …

    I need a special acquistion card , 8core, 16g or ram, 3 HD output minitoring and 4terrabytes hard drive. A mac would cost me around 7000-10 000$can and a pc whit the same specs …. around 3000$, i can build it myself.

    Just for the tower, im not including monitoring screen … I will go whit pc even if i like mac … i cant affort it.

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    Simply put macs are for people who want to jerk off without using porn. Linux is for people with no money and all the rest just put up with Windows.

    OSX is actually a pretty awful interface – sure it looks good but its slow as hell. On the other extreme linux is butt ugly and looks like it was designed by someone who goes to 1 hour classes in graphics at nightschool.

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      I never mind with linux graphic as I always use it remotely via putty. I almost rarely put my hands on the servers since it can runs smoothly for years.

      what…this is from 2009? I must skip this page.

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    excellent article , i love to work on mac. People should come out of MS word
    Thanks ,http://ansblog.com

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    when i switched from mac to pc about a decade ago, the speed of my output/workflow more than doubled. this was primarily due to the two-button mouse, windows keyboard shortcuts, windows explorer, and the speed of working in DOS mode. all i care about is how quickly i can get from point A to point B. the only thing the mac does (and yes, I have worked on a mac in recent years), is slow me down. why? it just takes a longer to do all the same things. and i really don’t give a crap about what it looks like since i spend 99% of my time in the same looking applications anyway. photoshop on a pc looks the same on a mac. FF in a pc looks the same on a mac. PHP in a text editor looks the same on a pc as it does on a mac. i just don’t get why some people are actually proud of the fact that they’ve got a mac for which they’ve paid nearly twice as much! kind-of reminds me of my jr-high days when i actually felt better about myself because of the Polo shirts that I wore which cost twice as much as ordinary shirts. at the end of the day, it was just a shirt, and Polo was the one smiling. (maybe the same is true for Diesel jeans… I mean c’mon!!! now who’s kidding who?)

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    Nice article, comments are revealing as well: PC apologists seem rabid AND cheap (an unhealthy but apparently necessary combo, IMHO).

    Both are just electrified Boxes, after all… and if you want to word process, mail, surf, play games or other office or consumer-oriented functions, either box will serve (and truly, the cheaper the better). If you play games, or like to electronically tinker under the hood, you will be better served by the cheaper boxes… or even if you want to BE the geek to support friends and family: building, cleaning, maintaining and fixing everyones box. Just recognize what your motivation is…

    If, on the other hand, you have evolved a “Digital Lifestyle” of Digital music, video, and photos, and want to actually CREATE your own mashes of Digital stuff (not just consume other’s creations) perhaps, look at the boxes Designed (from the ground up-since ’98) to do digital work…to work with digital software, Macs.

    This is not to say that you can’t build an open PC box to do digital work, by custom picking appropriate software that will integrate well together… (ie Adobe) just don’t expect an integrated experience out of the box without considerable effort AND expense, But it CAN be done!!! (witness the above comments- especially if you primarily want to code)

    It is just NOT how I want to spend my time, nor can I afford it. I get paid much more as a Designer, than an electronic technician, plus I ENJOY designing much more than ‘fixing’. I just want the system to work… NOT to spend time or money maintaining my box from viruses, and trying to figure out which formats work together. I want functionality, AND I want form… to work together and well, and So Far, Apple has made that its mission statement in ALL of its products, and while not perfect, It is at least heading in the right direction.

    The tools never make the craftsman, and just by buying a mac Does NOT make you a better Designer. But just like a carpenter doesn’t want to fight himself by using cheaper tools, and will pay more for a “Hammer” with better Form & Function, because it gets out of the way and allows him to WORK faster and more accurately… so an artist will pay more for better brushes… So should Designers. But not just for better Form, or not just for faster Function, it is the two in conjunction that matters… in our own work, as well as in the tools we choose to use.

    Yes, you can design on a PC, but to pretend that you are ‘better’ for the less money (or more) that you spend on your tools is silly. Are you enjoying how you spend your time, are you being well compensated for your time? If so… Great! It is the pretension of both sides of the argument that infuriates. The self-congratulatory smug Mac owner, who thinks he is a designer, or the embittered & angry PC owner who has something to prove about their bargain.

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    I stopped using Windows 3 years ago when Vista came out. I was a Windows enthusiast, excited for Vista, but lets face it; Windows sucks. Its been Ubuntu for the past 3 years. Ubuntu is amazing, and at this point, I could never give up having the *nix terminal. However, I am so sick of the annoyances of having a real os. I miss Illustrator. Running Photoshop over Wine is pathetic. I can’t stream Netflix. The list goes on. After years of waiting, I get my Mackbook Pro today, and I am never going back!

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    What this article misses is that while Windows Vista isn’t that great the Microsoft Server solutions including their ASP.NET framework and languages are quite good. The Microsoft database solution Sql Server is top notch and actually heads above the MySql solution in terms of features and ease of development.

    The Microsoft development environment Visual Studio is one of the best environments out there.

    And finally Microsoft gives you continuity across platforms. For most purposes there isn’t a reasonable Apple server solution. However ASP.NET runs across all of the Microsoft environments from developer machine to server environment.

    With Apple and open source solutions you’re deployment platform is different from your development environment. With ASP.NET you’re deploying into a WIndows Server environment. As for as bad as Vista is Microsoft’s server OSes are good solid reliable workhorses.

    I’m fairly certain that the author has never experienced the Visual Studio tools or the Microsoft server environments.

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    the mac vs. windows debate is old news… none of this matters anyway! Its all personal preference. And the tools DO make the designer. Would a painter be a painter without a paintbrush? I don’t think so. But its up to the painter to choose the type of paintbrush he/she feels comfortable using. I’ve used both platforms windows and macintosh… personally, I’m more comfortable on a mac. It’s not the aesthetics or the price… its all in how the tools and programs are set up… i can navigate a mac with ease… i know the commands like the back of my hand and I have less problems running the programs I need… reiterating… THE PROGRAMS I NEED! Now if you’re a designer and you don’t use a mac… cool beans… I’m happy for you. Whatever floats your boat is fine with me. I prefer mac… its easier for me to use! So stop calling ppl lame just bc they like one better than the other! its so childish!

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    Crazy Eddie Nambulus

    September 27, 2009 12:25 pm

    A computer is a computer! It breaks down the same way no matter how you look at it! Its all in whats in the brain my friends! The GUA are coming!!!

    Believe the Unbelievable!

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    Vanja Djurdjevic

    March 25, 2010 9:05 am

    Mac sucks Ppl use windows it’s better than mac and linux together (i used them).But windows is nothing special though…

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    Hey cody, your right browsing the internet is sooooo gay! (dumbass)

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    This article is very good and well written. I used to be a mac hater but when I started to give Mac a honest chance, I was really happy with the OS. I see people who has never used a mac before and they start bitching about how crap it is when they themselves never really want to understand what the fuss about the reason why Macs are preferably made for Designers and Developers. You see Macs everywhere in Design Industries and Design at Uni.

    To me it’s not all about the Tech Specs but the OS itself and I don’t believe that Macs are too overpriced just because either you are too poor or just found a better offer at some local electronic store that happens to have the same or probs higher specs but at a much cheaper price.

    Apple did invest 20% of their profits with Adobe (src: Thoughts on Flash on the Apple Website). So I guess in a way Apple wants Adobe to work/run well specifically for the Macintosh.

    For me before I switched to Mac I had Windows Vista (but now I have Windows 7 – just for games) running on Bootcamp, so I can run two operating systems on the Mac. Also before I started getting into what the Mac can do, I met a PC hater which is kind of ironic but yeah he works for Apple and he told me what the Mac can do and I didn’t really believe as to why Macs were so great. But the OS is what interested me such as Expose, Spaces, Dashboard, Applications in the Dock.

    Expose – Can see all the windows within the desktop

    Space – Can organize your work into different space desktop fields

    Dashboard – Just one button away from viewing your favourite widgets like MAMP, Calculator, Notes without opening the program itself.

    Applications in the Dock – can hide it for more space on the desktop and also quickly select the program you want to run without showing desktop and then click the program you want, so in a way it’s much more convenient and faster to select the program you want to run.

    In addition, this might sound a little cliche but Macs do not get viruses. And you don’t have to spend a lot of money on an anti virus program. I mean seriously have you ever seen a anti virus program for the Mac. Been using the Mac for almost 3 years now and I seen fake viruses pretending that I’ve got the Virus or that my mac doesn’t supports those virus file types. Sure you can get a anti virus program, but there are some like AVG, Norton that cannot stop all or strong viruses like Trojan or there are some anti virus programs that limits you to the amount of websites you can view on the internet. And if you had been hit by the Virus, it might take a while to figure out how to solve this issue, and it happens to most Windows Users. So I guess Mac wins the User Friendly Web Experience.

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    I stopped reading the article as soon as I read you’re first point.

    “1. Open Source Friendly”

    Yeah apple’s open source friendly, what planet are you from? They’re the most locked don’t idiotic anti filesharing, anti freewill driven company of utter dispair.

    Nice iPhone – Oh wait, I have to jailbreak it for it to be useful, oh look Apple screwed us over there too. Oh, nice.

    No google calendar sync with my iPhone, nice.

    I dislike Bill Gates, I dislike windows, but it’s the far superior of the 2 evils. Mac OS is just a gloryfied version of unix, and that’s a propper open source bit of kit.

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    Mohit | CSSJockey

    July 26, 2010 2:05 pm

    I recently bought an iMac and having a very hard time adapting its features. I found Windows 7 is much better than Mac. Customizing stuff is way too easy in Windows than a Mac.

    Take an example of changing the mouse pointer speed…
    In windows i can simply drag the slider to higher side and its done where as on mac I have to find and type a terminal command to do so..

    That’s stupid.

    $ defaults write -g com.apple.mouse.scaling 30
    (this is for people who are new and feel the mouse is very slow)

    May be I am new to Mac so it might take some time to learn all these commands and other hacks but so far I am not happy switching to Mac.

    I was tired searching for “enable smtp emails in XAMPP on a Mac” and then searched “Why developers choose a mac” I wish I would have read all the feedback before spending on a Mac :(

    I searched youtube for the same question and all results are for setting up XAMPP on windows and for mac I just found MAC v/s PC crap..

    Anyways I’ll try my best to include Mac in my daily development otherwise I’ll keep it to test cross browser/OS compatibility for the projects I do.

    By the way I’ve installed Windows 7 via VMWare Fusion to make sure I don’t kick my Mac if something’s not working..

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    Miture Binesderti

    September 3, 2010 4:41 pm

    @Mohit: If it’s hard on a Mac you’re doing it wrong.

    I’m amazed that you were able to google how to change the pointer speed by a command prompt but didn’t find a link to System Preferences. I think you may just be one of those people that finds everything in life difficult because you want it to be so.

    Also you don’t change the mouse pointer speed in windows by magically waving your mouse around and having windows know what you mean (as you imply). Instead you do this:
    1) Click on start.
    2) Click on control panel…
    2a) Unless it’s not there so you have to click on system
    2b) Unless it’s not there so then you have to click on programs
    2b1) Click on system
    2b2) Click on control panel
    3) Click on the mouse icon
    ( it may be in different locations depending on how you have your control panel setup)
    4) Click on the motion tab…
    4a) Unless a third party driver is installed on your system like Logitech then good luck finding it among the 47 tabs.
    5) Slide the slider.
    Note: Do NOT turn on the mouse trails because it will bring every game you play to a crawl.

    How do you do it in on a Mac?
    1) Click on System Preferences (the little gear icon on your menu bar)
    2) Click on the mouse icon that says “Mouse” (makes sense huh?)
    3) Slide the very first slider that says, “Tracking speed.”

    Or

    1) Type mouse in Spotlight (you don’t even have to type it all, just “mou”)
    2) Press enter
    3) Slide the very first slider that says, “Tracking speed.”

    The problem is not the OS, it’s you. You don’t like things that are different. They make you uncomfortable by tickling that primitive instinct that change is bad. This does not make you a bad person, it just makes you normal. However your level of anger at change is something you might want to look into.

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    Its like picking your favourite brand. Mac’s don’t present anything useful to me for a $1200 I got myself an awesome gaming laptop that no Mac in the same price range will ever beat. Development soft, open-sourceness – come on what kind of BS is that. My pc don’t come with PHP and rails but it doesn’t mean I can’t download it and use it… Macs are for pretentious douchebags…

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    Man Im tired of reading weepy crap arguments

    September 21, 2010 12:18 pm

    Really, why is this an issue at this point. I personally use an abacus for all my development. I find the classic “beads on a string” GUI interface to be refreshing. Plus they have incredible battery life, in fact they don’t even need batteries. Plus because it is a legacy system there is an incredibly large support network. I mean, really an operating system that a baby can work. Lets see Windows, Linux or OSX top that?

    In truth, I bought a mac because every design job out there said I needed Mac experience. As long as my code is strong and my clientele are happy, I’ll use a graphing calculator and an ink pen. Grow up people, the have and have not arguments suck.

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    I read through this hoping to find a good enough reason to switch to a mac. Unfortunately, I haven’t found one yet. The design is nicer but that’s about it.

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    I feel sorry for the writer. lol

    I think what the readers hates here is the shameless advertising of Apple and bashing of Windows(Microsoft).

    Seriously, Mac and Windows are both good on whatever the user’s preferences are and as of Open Source geezz…

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    Ehm…

    Developers? Are you sure about that? Parsing around some html and css isn’t exactly development.

    Most any CS class is taught in Windows/Linux, always has been. Compiling in OSX is pretty crap. Xtools is pretty horrid. Eclipse/Zend kill it.

    Ruby on Mac? Uhhh Ruby is free.

    Python perhaps? Yeah Python is free too…

    MAMP? ummm XAMPP on Windows, LAMP on linux

    Adobe products? Are you serious? It’s on both.

    Textmate? You actually paid 30 dollars to edit some text LoL

    * The Digital Color Meter – umm Windows ColorCop free, done.
    * Console – uhh command line, cygwin, power shell
    * Terminal – vim is FREE
    * XCode Tools – pretty horrid, visual studio/eclipse/zend are all better
    * Zoom – windows has this built in.
    * Safari Debug Mode – Safari is hands down THE worst browser out of the big 4.
    * Time Machine – if you can’t figure out windows backups well… please stay away from my companies equipment. There is a reason we lock all you “designers” out of important file systems/admin levels.

    Intel Inside? uhh okay, have fun paying double to triple the price.

    support? umm Genius bar workers aren’t that technical, sorry to break it to you.

    virtualization? you are kidding right, Windows has been doing this forever.

    textmate/growl… again, pathetic. filezilla notepad++ komodo eclipse…for the win…

    open source friendly? uhhh open source stuff runs like crap half the time in Xwindows.

    Anyway, do not trust this article if you are an aspiring developer, you should probably start learning linux thought, don’t waste your time with darwin/mac…

    Only reason you would need a mac to dev on is if you are working with iphone/ipad sdk or writing actual mac apps in objective c or cocoa.

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      thanks, someone who knows what hes talking about. jeez, preaching to the chior over here. buncha damn noobs in these parts. package management in osx is horrid, why would anyone even want to bust out a terminal on it, when the damn thing is so butchered to not even be a recognizable *nix system. forget even trying to properly build stuff from source and install it correctly, dealing with dependencies and outdated versions of crap that apple doesn’t let you upgrade, ancient versions of jvm on osx 10.5 or 10.6 was it im talking to you.

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    jojd, you are absolutely right. Im an aspiring Drupal developer and have been for the past 5 years. And i say “aspiring” because it never stops. I thought about the mac for a while and even before I read this post had decided on a Dell system with Linux OS because i know the truth. Recently bought a Dell Inspiron N17r with all the bells and whistles for a grand and I love it. A multitasking dream and the usual Dell speed with only an I5 processor. Coming from a 5yr old dell 1700 that never gave me any problems I am completely satisfied and have all the power and options I need and then some on the new machine. Developers, do your self a favor, save some cash, no need to profile, run linux if all you’re afraid of is some “virus”. Its not that serious. Peace.!

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    I think one of the most overlooked facets of the whole Windows vs Mac argument is licensing. For individual users, licensing is probably not such a big issue. But for a company that employs staff from various parts of the world to create digital content in a variety of different languages, Microsoft go out of their way to make life hell.

    My own company is based in Spain, and prior to switching to Mac’s we had a huge problem getting computers with operating systems that would work in the languages we required. Our Russian staff need Russian, Our Swedish Staff need Swedish, and our German staff needed German etc. etc. Unfortunately, Microsoft’s insane licensing system would only allow us to purchase computers in Spain that are pre-installed with Spanish Windows. This is true of ALL European countries – even though Europe is now one big economic area. The only way to overcome the problem was to order full versions of Windows from suppliers in each of the countries for which we needed language editions. These would then have to be sent to Spain and installed onto the locally purchased computers – effectively, we were buying the operating system twice.

    You can imaging what a refreshing change it was to know that our Mac’s could be set up and configured in any language of our choice at any time. Furthermore, the local Mac store could even supply us with regional keyboards at short notice. This is one of the advantages of having the OS and Hardware supplier as one and the same person.

    But having switched to Mac’s, we are still able to utilise many of our existing windows applications, and they run perfectly well – we even have Mac versions of Microsoft Office which are far more superior than their Windows counterpart.

    So from a business perspective, I would go Mac every time – not because the hardware or the software is any better or worse than Windows or the PC’s that run Windows, but more because of the total flexibility of the Mac OS to meet international needs, and the fact that the hardware/software package is supported as one by a very efficient local Apple Store.

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    Software vendors: Microsoft, Apple..etc
    Hardware vendors: Apple, IBM, Sony, HP…etc.
    Users: You and me. (Their buyers, whatever these top guys to, they want our money in anyway they can, be it by one mouse button or bundled apps.)

    People do confuse PC with Microsoft, Windows is just an OS, like OS X like Linux etc..and we have Hardware, from different vendors, but only one vendor for apple who happen to also to be a vendor of OS X which happens to run only on Apple hardware.

    IMO the choice and use of a certain hardware is the users choice, whether it is influenced by the ability to buy, or the requirements.

    Freedom of choice, that is why there are different colors, because some like blue and some don’t. That is why every vendor does marketing and does sell…because that is simply the nature of business.

    THAT IS WHY, WHAT YOU CALL BEAUTIFUL, IS WHAT SOMEONE CALLS UGLY.

    Just go back to work.

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      somehow your ticked to good points but as you say color variations, here you should evaluate your opinion. because aesthetics is not only color, there are dozen of things which should be considered..

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    very informative and well explained…. if you are a Microsoft fan, there the only thing I can say is we all developers hate Micro$oft. the reason?! be the one you will realize.

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  447. 461

    Exactly after 2 years I read this article again.. Smashing rocks..

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    I didn’t find one convincing argument to swtich to Mac in this article. So I guess the title is a bit misleading. In fact, it’s simply a matter of preferences. I personally get annoyed using Mac as I don’t like only 1 mouse button, the way windows get maximized, the boring look (you refereed to as consistency), etc.

    However, I am sure both systems are great. The only thing I like more on Mac is the design itself. They are genius – be that the iPhone, Mac or iPad. It looks sexy and they are leading the field. But I can now have the same (in my opinion a bit more sexier) in PC version – (i.e. Lenovo U300s – with widescreen). I know, I know .. they copy Mac ?! But who actually cares?

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    I wanted to give you a plus, sorry for my miss click. Becoz I use iPad and the thumbs icon is really small. I agree with you totaly, specially about Visual Studio. Its the best IDE ever.

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    I’m both mac and pc user spending more than 10h in front of screens on daily basis for years. Actually doing just simple web development on the mac book pro and as it made me a bit nervous to recur every simple step through too many dialogs on mac (however found spaces really advanced feature of os x) and I’m actually reading this nice article instead of doing the homework. Definitely, multitasking, flexibility and productivity on PC is a mile away higher (thanks to win7 and plenty of great tools available on it).

    Also want to note that shift has happen regarding stability of two os’s, didn’t encounter any issue pushing the win7 to maximum with numerous vm’s for months, till’ needs on “force quit” of stacked app’s on os x become an everyday occurrence.

    At the end will go to office and finish the job in half a time needed on spending valuable time making recurs of a plenty of simple steps and go to beach afternoon as it’s very warm around.

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      seriously… my mac KP’ed more then my win 7 system ever bluescreened. In about 7 months of serious web dev on windows 7, rebooting the system about once a month and using 6 of 8 gigs ram, NOT ONE hiccup out of win7. these mac fanboys are totally obtuse. i speak from 10 & 20 years on both platforms, way back to mac os 8 so don’t even start with me.

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    Developers on Mac is like a guy trying to sell himself as a biker while riding on a Honda Valkyrie. It’s expensive and looks cool but they don’t know how to use it right.

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    I switched from PC to Mac in 2005, starting with the original 1.42GHz PowerPC Mac mini and I haven’t looked back.

    By day, I use a modern, well specified HP desktop and the build quality, driver support and choice of components is so terrible that the machine runs slower than any Mac I’ve owned, despite being better specified than all bar my current iMac. I am on my second hard drive after the first failed four months into having the system.

    I think Mac OS X was the worst thing to happen to Windows. Mostly because the more user-friendly it got, the more Microsoft implemented ill-thought visual flair and changes to Vista and 7 that made them harder to use. I have to turn off so much of the added fluff to make Windows usable again that new system setup is like running a gauntlet.

    It appears to be getting worse. Windows 8 is fantastic for a tablet device, but trying to use it with a mouse has been an absolute chore. For all of their talk about no compromises, it feels like a massively compromised experience. I’m sure I can customise it how I need it, but given that its main rival is how I need it out of the box, and costs significantly less to upgrade each time, my choice is almost made for me.

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