10 Common Mistakes In Logo Design

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With the power of the Web, and more eyes watching than ever, it’s important for a business to communicate its unique message clearly. The easiest way to recognize a company and distinguish it from others is by its logo. Below, we go through 10 common logo design mistakes that you should avoid if you want to create a successful and professional logo.

1. Designed By An Amateur


Avoid websites that promote ridiculously cheap logo packages. You get what you pay for.

A professional business should look professional. New business owners often invest a lot of time and money in property and equipment, but do not often match it by investing suitably in their logo.

Here are the most common reasons why many logos look amateurish:

  • The business owner wanted to save money by designing the logo quickly themselves.
  • A friend or relative who claims to know a little about graphic design does it as a favor.
  • The wrong people are commissioned. (Local printers are not likely proficient in logo design.)
  • The business outsourced the job via one of several design competition websites, which are mostly populated by amateur designers.
  • The job was given to an online company that offers really cheap logos.

All of the above can result in disastrous outcomes. If your logo looks amateurish, then so will your business. A business should know where to look when it wants a new logo. David Airey offers great insight on how to choose the right logo designer for your requirements.

Here are the advantages of hiring an established and professional logo designer:

  • Your logo will be unique and memorable.
  • You won’t run into any problems down the line with reproducing it.
  • Your logo will have a longer lifespan and won’t need to be redesigned in a couple of years.
  • Your logo will look professional.

2. Relies On Trends


Focusing on current logo trends is like putting a sell-by date on a logo.

Trends (whether swooshes, glows or bevels) come and go and ultimately turn into cliches. A well-designed logo should be timeless, and this can be achieved by ignoring the latest design tricks and gimmicks. The biggest cliche in logo design is the dreaded “corporate swoosh,” which is the ultimate way to play it safe. As a logo designer, your job is to create a unique identity for your client, so completely ignoring logo design trends is best.

Logolounge has a great section on its website in which it updates current logo design trends every year. Being aware as a designer of the latest crazes is important, mainly so that you can avoid them at all costs.

3. Uses Raster Images


An example of how raster graphics can limit reproduction.

Standard practice when designing a logo is to use vector graphics software, such as Adobe Illustrator or Corel Draw. A vector graphic is made up of mathematically precise points, which ensures visual consistency across multiple sizes. The alternative, of course, is use to raster graphics software, such as Adobe Photoshop. A raster graphic — or bitmap, as it’s commonly called — consists of pixels.

Using raster images for logos is not advisable because it can cause problems with reproduction. While Photoshop is capable of creating very large logos, you never know for sure how large you will have to reproduce your logo at some point. If you zoom in enough on a raster graphic, it will appear pixelated, making it unusable. Maintaining visual consistency by making sure the logo looks the same in all sizes is essential.

The main advantages of vector graphics for logo design are:

  • The logo can be scaled to any size without losing quality.
  • Editing the logo later on is much easier.
  • It can be adapted to other media more easily than a raster image.

4. Contains Stock Art


Using stock vector graphics in a logo puts your client at risk.

This mistake is often made by business owners who design their own logo or by amateur designers who are not clued in to the laws on copyright. Downloading stock vector imagery from websites such as VectorStock is not a crime, but it could possibly get you in trouble if you incorporate it in a logo.

A logo should be unique and original, and the licensing agreement should be exclusive to the client: using stock art breaks both of these rules. Chances are, if you are using a stock vector image, it is also being used by someone somewhere else in the world, so yours is no longer unique. You can pretty easily spot stock vectors in logos because they are usually familiar shapes, such as globes and silhouettes.

5. Designing For Yourself Rather Than The Client


Never impose your own personality onto a client’s work.

You can often spot this logo design sin a mile away; the cause is usually a designer’s enormous ego. If you have found a cool new font that you can’t wait to use in a design, well… don’t. Ask yourself if that font is truly appropriate for the business you’re designing for? For example, a great modern typographic font that you just love is not likely suited to a serious business such as a lawyer’s office.

Some designers also make the mistake of including a “trademark” in their work. While you should be proud of your work, imposing your personality onto a logo is wrong. Stay focused on the client’s requirements by sticking to the brief.

6. Overly Complex


Highly detailed designs don’t scale well when printed or viewed in smaller sizes.

What better analogy for thumbnail images than fingerprints? You’ll notice the intricacies of your fingerprints only when looking at them really close up. As soon as you move away, those details are lost. The same holds true for highly detailed logo designs.

When printed in small sizes, a complex design will lose detail and in some cases will look like a smudge or, worse, a mistake. The more detail a logo has, the more information the viewer has to process. A logo should be memorable, and one of the best ways to make it memorable is to keep things simple. Look at the corporate identities of Nike, McDonald’s and Apple. Each company has a very simple icon that can easily be reproduced at any size.

7. Relies On Color For Its Effect


Without color, your great design may lose its identity.

This is a very common mistake. Some designers cannot wait to add color to a design, and some rely on it completely. Choosing color should be your last decision, so starting your work in black and white is best.

Every business owner will need to display their logo in only one color at one time or another, so the designer should test to see whether this would affect the logo’s identity. If you use color to help distinguish certain elements in the design, then the logo will look completely different in one tone.

8. Poor Choice Of Font


Font choice can make or break a logo.

When it comes to executing a logo, choosing the right font is the most important decision a designer can make. More often than not, a logo fails because of a poor font choice (our example shows the infamous Comic Sans).

Finding the perfect font for your design is all about matching the font to the style of the icon. But this can be tricky. If the match is too close, the icon and font will compete with each other for attention; if the complete opposite, then the viewer won’t know where to focus. The key is finding the right balance, somewhere in the middle. Every typeface has a personality. If the font you have chosen does not reflect the icon’s characteristics, then the whole message of the brand will misfire.

Bad fonts are often chosen simply because the decision isn’t taken seriously enough. Some designers simply throw in type as an afterthought. Professional font foundries, such as MyFonts and FontFont, offer much better typeface options than those over-used websites that offer free downloads.

9. Has Too Many Fonts


A logo works best with a maximum of two fonts.

Using too many fonts is like trying to show someone a whole photo album at once. Each typeface is different, and the viewer needs time to recognize it. Seeing too many at once causes confusion.

Using a maximum of two fonts of different weights is standard practice. Restricting the number of fonts to this number greatly improves the legibility of a logo design and improves brand recognition.

10. Copies Others

This is the biggest logo design mistake of all and, unfortunately, is becoming more and more common. As mentioned, the purpose of a logo is to represent a business. If it looks the same as someone else’s, it has failed in that regard. Copying others does no one any favors, neither the client nor the designer.

Gareth Hardy is a professional graphic designer and illustrator based in the United Kingdom. You can find Gareth at Down With Design or on a snowy mountain near you.

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    Great article for beginers :)

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    Thanks, some very good points here.

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    excellent! the amount of people i see trying to get their “future big business” logo designed for dirt cheap is crazy

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    Cool article.. very very informative. Big thanks ! :)

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    Great Article just when i needed.
    Thanks a lot.

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    Jan Kovařík

    June 25th, 2009 4:47 am

    I agree, with everything … i saw too many bad logos :(

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    This is a great article, I’ll think about this!

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    Thank you for having the design in black and white first section. Someone starting a logo in color is a tell tale sign of someone who doesn’t really know what they are doing.

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    LockWesMonster

    June 25th, 2009 5:02 am

    I believe that logos should be designed as vector and in pixel formats, especially if your main presence is online. If your going to display in pixels, you need to design for pixels, or else the anti-aliasing on a vector image is not going to look sharp on a computer screen.

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    good article…suits as a remainder :)

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    Andrew Turnbull

    June 25th, 2009 5:03 am

    A great article. Like the above. It important that the logo works to small scale and also looks good when photocopyed in black and white. Lot of new / fresh designers need to be aware of those facts. Im sure most designers here would agree with this: Never use Clip Art!

    Never follow trends as mentioned, it becomes to common and not original.
    The key is to be original/Unique.

    good job smashing!

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    Great article. Simple, concise and some great ideas. I’m currently looking to brand a new blog so this is very relevant and helpful. Cheers.

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    Wonderful collection. We know most of them but still great as a refresher.
    thanks

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    Don’t go cheap, but at the same time don’t spend millions and overpay. You can get really good work for a good price.

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    TOO MANY PEOPLE IGNORE NO. 6!!! IT MAKES ME RRRRRRRRRAAAAAAGE!!!!! >:[ >:[ >:[

    Keep it simple, stupids. The best logo is an easily recognisable, reproducable and understandable one. Look at McDonald’s, Shell and Nike for some unbeatable and timeless logos.

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    Excellent article. I believe that with experience, talent and conscience a designer may override items 6 and 7 – on the older days, those would be cardinal rules but with technology there’s more room for detail and less need for monochrome prints – so a creative approach is possible.

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    Great article. These are just a couple of the mistakes I’ve seen in Logo Design. I actually wrote a blog titled “Design for Client, Not Yourself”. I think that designer egos are one of the biggest hurdle for most designers.

    If you aren’t willing to LEARN and EXPAND your designing abilities, you might as well quit and take up crochet or something.

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    I will DEF. tweet this….my god how I HATE hearing “oh my cousin’s dog sitter works at a print shop part time”. NO! For the love of god please don’t hire them. Quit being cheap and hire a professional.

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    lunetta: I thought I was the only one. Thanks.

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    Yes – lots of good tips there to bear in mind when doing logo design.

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    I design all my logos in Photoshop but have software to convert them to vectors. Slowly but surely learning illustrator but I work so much quicker in photoshop.

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    Great article, but some companies whould never understand…

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    COMIC SANS FTW!

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    great article…

    Thanks to SM

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    Nice article, the smashing productions logo is neat :)

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    Great run through! I had to learn these the hard way, but after each failure I picked up on what was the right way to do it.

    But to throw out an exception – is it true that Twitter only paid $6 for their logo (the bird on the branch)?

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    Thank you for stating the obvious! So-called designers today are doing a huge disservice to their clients by abusing Number 5 (designing for yourself). That leads to overly complex, color-dependent logos (Numbers 6 and 7). The commenter “lunetta” above is missing the point when saying technology today allows for greater detail and use of detail. So what?? Just because you can zoom in 1600% in Illustrator doesn’t mean you won’t end up with mud when viewed or printed at 100%. I tell clients that their new logo should look good at any size, whether on their business card or on the side of a bus. I also tell them their business card should be distinctive when viewed from across the room. Meeting those two objectives is not easy, and it’s why great logo design is never cheap.

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    Antonea Nabors

    June 25th, 2009 6:05 am

    Very well put! I couldn’t agree more. All of these points were spot on.

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    I dont usually make a lot of logos but use them and it is so frustrating to get a bad logo and try to use it in good design.

    Another good suggestion that I have to explain to clients a lot is:

    Try not to make a TALL logo, its hard to use in various formats. Especially if the graphic is tall and the words are small… When you shrink it down the words just go away. It happens more than you would think.. ><

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    Always love these type of articles.

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    Myfacefriends

    June 25th, 2009 6:16 am

    Great article! cheers!

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    It’s a little ironic that the right-side advertisements on Smashing are filled with “New Logo for $100!”-type ads; that, and all the logo trends articles posted here from time to time.

    That said, I still love this place.

    +1
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    good article. I second Nathan’s comment above; those kind of ads should not have a place on such a website as this.

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    The article is indeed good,
    but well… do you remember this?
    http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/04/05/logo-contest-sketches-and-designs/

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    Head.SmackOnTable()

    June 25th, 2009 6:30 am

    Great article, gives me something to think about…

    Quick question – on the image for #2, what font is used for “Like everyone else”?

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    I think I can add another mistake to this list and its don’t let the client dictate how to design the logo. The client is not (in most cases) a creative designer, and even thought they might have an idea of what they want, or sometimes they know exactly what they want, ultimately they should leave the designing to the designer. I have a client who did not like the designs I made so he actually invited me over and sat next to me and had me tweaked the design to his liking. While I admire his initiative and making my job “easier”, the final design is one that I would not put into a portfolio.

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    I agree with all of the common mistakes except for point number 7. Color is just as important as the imagery and typography of a logo. I understand the reasoning in the past for making sure that your logo looks well in a monochrome situation but I believe that’s not the case anymore. Digital printing is obviously overtaking all types of materials. Everything from wide format printing down to small micro sized printing is done digitally.

    The time to switch from thinking in just black & white is yesterday.

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      Tom, you’re a fool. If the logo doesn’t look good in black & white, then it’s unusable by a big business. Do you have any idea how much it costs to buy an ad in the New York Times in color versus black/white? Financial decisions force us to think in black and white and will continue to do so as long as physical print continues to exist.

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    Excellent article, thanks for sharing!

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    @freshalex if there wasnt no client input my portfolio would be 3 times the size. There is just no telling them sometimes “dont be a sheep and follow trends”.

    All of these are very valid and if you consider any of them then your not really a designer, just someone who knows how to use design software (and there is alot of those people around, you know who you are)

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    @TOM, The reason a logo should work well in monochrome is sometimes your logo is used by other people who’s budget (or the material on which it is being printed) does not allow for colour printing.

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    I cannot agree completly to point 7. Okay there is no doubt that in professional logo-design you should use colors with a high contrast. But the logo you marked as “good” on the right side suffer from something different I was taught: Don’t use small geometrical patterns in logos!
    When you think of greating a good logo, just forget all the gradients, shiny effects and small details like shadows. Rely on one simple rule: Design a logo as if you would design a coat of arms! Because the rules of heraldy are the same as for logo design: Recognizable, easy to remember and unique. As long as you keep those rules in mind you will create great logos! I will do a tutorial for German designers on my website in the nearer future!

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    Dusan Vlahovic

    June 25th, 2009 7:00 am

    Good tips, spot on!, i haven’t thought about doing the logo on b&w and adding color later, i like that idea.

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    Really nice article! Logo design isn’t one of my best skills.

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    @NATHAN I totally agree, there should not be ads for $100 logos on a site that writes an article like this. What are you trying to tell us Smashing? Seems a bit hypocritical.

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    @MArc, I definitely understand the reason for creating some logos that can translate well into black and white for a company that has to budget their production quality for their identity. But for the businesses that were mentioned above as a “future big business” they should not limit their designs to limited printing. Especially since digital printing is the production way of the “future” and now.

    People would not question companies that adopted technologies quickly in the past, such as a store that incorporated digital store, an online store. And now its a no-brainier for a serious store to do.

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    Great, great article. Maybe my favorite SM article ever!

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    Robin Robbins

    June 25th, 2009 7:21 am

    I agree that the logo should be colorless.
    Web pages today make it a possible to change themes easily and now a colorful log clashes with the theme. So I try to make a good black and white PNG, so the transparency shades the color giving it a hue no matter what theme is used.

    +1
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    I like. Well done. Thanks…

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    Niall McKenna

    June 25th, 2009 7:27 am

    great article, definitely a topic which can be hard to find decent free info on. As mentioned above logo lounge is a subscription site, so these article are quite useful and informative. cheers

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    Josiah Jost | Siah Design

    June 25th, 2009 7:29 am

    Great article, Gareth. :D

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    Brian Temecula

    June 25th, 2009 7:33 am

    You could use one of the links here in SM for a $100 logo, and then combine that with some of the free icon sets, and one of the free wordpress themes, and you’re going to look VERY professional! (note sarcasm).

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    Daniel Hunninghake

    June 25th, 2009 7:36 am

    Nice work, Gareth! Each point is relevant, and I kept thinking.. “Yeah, very true!” Keep it up, and I look forward to your work in the future.

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    Thanks you. Very usefull

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    I won’t even LOOK at logos with swishes.

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    While I agree that following trends can cause problems, being able to keep up and design by these standards is important.

    Sure, you want to be “ahead of the curve”, but realistically you need to make a buck. If you’re a professional, that is.

    What I mean is this. There’s a reason that certain designs are trendy… because for the most part they are successful and popular. Yes, in a perfect world, you will innovate and lead clients towards an original design. However, for the most part, clients will want “something like that one” or a logo that is in some part based on another successful logo. I can’t tell you how many designs I’ve made that were finally sold because I added a web 2.0 style reflection.

    These are great guides though… each one could have it’s own page full of examples and how-to guides for designing, from inception to completion.

    Just understand that having a foundation based in originality and avoiding trends may not get you much work. Even if they aren’t portfolio-worthy, learning the techniques behind trendy design as well as practicing making some (even if you never use them) is important.

    Sometimes you just have to do what the client wants. You gotta eat!

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    This is a great article. Part of the reason we charge so much for logos is that they are so important to the brand of the client.

    Especially #10. We get many prospective clients who say “make our logo look like ‘Company A’. We tell them that their logo needs to be unique, and they just don’t get it. They just want to keep the costs down but we try to explain that they really aren’t doing themselves any favors in the long run with a derivative logo.

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    This is a great article. Lots of good advice for people who are new comers to logo design and design in general actually. Gives business people a chance to create a design brief from and informed position.

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    You should mention pictures, because I have run across some clients that want an actual picture in their logo. I’m like WTF, serisouly???

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    Disposable_Hero

    June 25th, 2009 8:19 am

    Don’t get me wrong, I love coming to this site and reading the articles, but doesn’t this article completely contradict the several other “beautiful and creative logos” posts? Most of the logos showcased were shiny and full of overused gradients (#2), and relied heavily on color (#4). Sure they looked awesome as designs, but it’s kind of confusing to have one post saying these are great designs, then another post saying to avoid doing what most of them did.

    Otherwise, great tips!

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    It’s so fun to look at those $20 logo design contest entries!

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    @ Tom
    I think the point about color is not to “rely” on color in logo design. As you can see from the concenric circles in color in the demo – this design clearly doesn’t work in color

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    …. and how many times do you see web sites attempt to use a complex logo as their favicon!

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    I like these ideas…but… I think many times designers think that they are the most important part of a new business. While I wish that was true, most start up businesses are hitting the ground running and just need something to put on their stuff. Their cash and time is tied up in their new equipment and new business and unfortunately can’t drop $500 on a logo. It’s up to designers if they want some money (which is better than none), or to hold out for some someone willing to pay top dollar.

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    “Yeah, yeah, don’t be cheap!”

    While I understand designers ought to be paid well for their work, it seems like a chicken vs. egg problem. People need logos for new companies. In most cases they are bootstrapping and don’t have the resources to pay for a good logo. This is usually my dilemma. Any suggestions on how to solve this problem?

    This article was very timely as I just posted a job on 99designs… $195 prize… go ahead, call me cheap!

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    So for those that are on a budget where do you go? I guess the stock answer is “find a good logo designer” but for those not in the industry this is sort of like finding a good doctor or dentist. You know they are out there but for most it’s hard to tell the good from the bad.

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    A very usefull post to many designers and beginners!

    Thank you again!

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    i kinda like the fingerprint logo! a lot actually lol

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    Gareth – Great Post!

    I couldn’t agree with you more. People are visual. When they think of your business, they’ll think of your logo. If it’s memorable, they’ll think of it often. If it’s not, they might not think of you at all.

    I recently re-did my business website, and initially thought I could save by using my old logo. Man was I wrong! The old, dated logo brought the whole site down… I needed a change and fast.

    I saw a banner on SmashingMagazine.com, and was able to find a local logo designer who went beyond anything I could have imagined. Not cheap, but I absolutely love the new look he gave my business.

    After using my old logo for over 4 years, I realized I never once had someone randomly give a positive comment on it. I’ve now had my new logo for about a month and have had people who I haven’t talked to in a year call just to tell me how great it looks.

    Value that as you may, but in my opinion, if a logo alone can compel someone to pick up a phone and call, the investment was worth every cent. In my case, that call eventually turned into a new client, which made this the best money I’ve spent in awhile…

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    i would have add:

    1. using gradients
    2. using shadows

    btw: what’s the smashing magazine logo : just S or S + SMASHING MAGAZINE ?

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    Cathedral Graphic Design

    June 25th, 2009 9:51 am

    Yes, great article!

    I generally disapprove of the “web 2.0″ style of logos and other logos that rely on color, gradients, etc to work (despite the fact that I have made a few recently – I’ll sacrifice “designer’s ethics” for cash ;) . Why do people want logos like that? That’s an icon, not a logo… Any truly good logo should look good in B&W, it should be simple but express exactly what’s needed, et cetera, and if you can’t come up with something that follows these rules that Smashing has posted, then you just aren’t creative enough – and I’ve been there, a designer can’t always have a revolutionary, world-changing concept. But I think we can all agree that truly good logos aren’t just a shiny bubble that goes in the corner of a website.

    The comment on price is true, as well; in my quest for more clients I’ve registered on Elance, and it’s HELL for true designers there. All these people bid $50 for a logo, and the people looking for the logo are only willing to pay $50 – and they end up getting what they payed for. Sure, I’ve made a little money there, but it’s hardly worth the time spent bidding and time spent on the project.

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    Very good.

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    One of the best! This brings me back to reading SM.
    Thank you.

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    Armando Martinez

    June 25th, 2009 10:10 am

    Great article. I hope people realize the common attributes of disposable logos.

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    Awesome article! This is one of my new favorites on SM.

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    It is one of the best and simple article on logo designig till date. Thank you verymuch.

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    Jean-Baptiste Jung

    June 25th, 2009 10:35 am

    Smashing article :) Learnt a lot of good tips!

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    Muster Maxmann

    June 25th, 2009 10:46 am

    Boring Article

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    Good article, this is what we’re tought at school. All the basics.

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    Hah…great article but you guys break #2. I find that hilarious.

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    Very good refresher for people thinking about conducting a brand discovery process.

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    Michael Carnell

    June 25th, 2009 11:14 am

    Thank you! Excellent and timely. I need a logo right now, and was already figuring out that I need to a) not do it myself and b) not get a friend / amateur to do it. This also gives me some guidelines to check against when I do get something submitted to me.

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    The amount of times I have heard from prospective clients “we’d love to use you but your too expensive!” – You get what you pay for.

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    So where do you find logo designers when even $500 is stretching a budget? LogoWorks?

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    No. 6 is my favorite… I’m always thinking about K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Stupid)

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    Troy Peterson

    June 25th, 2009 11:38 am

    Ha! Love #8… Comic Sans should be permanently banned from EVERYTHING!

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    It’s odd that people confuse “monochrome” with “black and white”. A well designed logo should be as effective in a single color as it in in full color. That color can be black, or white or the official company color (IBM blue comes to mind somehow). Assuming you’re eventually going to print something in medium to large quantities – say 10,000 – 100,000 fliers or something – printing with 1-2 pantone colors is generally cheaper than printing in CMYK.

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    Troy – lets not forget to add Papyrus to that list…

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    Troy & JayDee – also add Monotype Corsiva.

    Awesome article. I strongly agree w/ 7 and 9. The others should be common sense.

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    I’ve been working on my own logo for a few weeks, and this article changed my curse. Thank you smashing for these beautiful things you show me everyday!!!

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    This was a really good reminder of the pitfalls we sometimes can fall into remember revise, revise, revise.

    After several rounds of great solutions we sometimes get what some may call the client poo poo platter. combining 2-4 design options. This is where great account service can help.

    #11 Sometimes unavoidable client dictation, see #1.

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    Joseph Francis

    June 25th, 2009 1:10 pm

    Needs to be read by the clients, unfortunately, and not (just) by the designers.

    …and every time I’ve suggested vectors, or the importance of clarity when small and in black and white, people often roll their eyes and say, ‘This is 2009. Those rules are for years ago.’

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    Sanchit Thakur

    June 25th, 2009 1:14 pm

    Very nice article! keeps me coming back here :)

    You get what you pay for..

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    What’s difficult is when the client wants everything on this list, I feel like the last couple of clients I’ve had have been over the top ridiculous with their demands for inappropriate or multiple fonts, too many colors, too complex, and yes even using stock art from istockphoto. Methinks I need to get better clients :)

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    Funny thing is that some of these logos in this post are actually much nicer than the current SMASHING MAGAZING logo ;)

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  95. 96

    not bad, just had to notice that i violated against at least 3 of your rules when making the last band logo design :-/ but oh well, i was aware of not applying all that “business” rules.

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  96. 97

    Great article!

    Also a good tip for when you are designing a logo: If you have multiple designs you want to present to your client, never include the ones you ‘hope’ they won’t choose… it always ends up awkward. They either think you’re a mediocre designer, or they end up choosing that exact logo.

    Restrict it to just 2 and include different versions of those (colors, black/white, greyscale). If they don’t like them, you should have a general idea of what they don’t want and take that into account when designing their new top-notch logo ;)

    PS: And as an added bonus, a lot of these tips/rules apply to website designs as well. Too many (start up) businesses put up a cheapo website designed by their neighbor’s nephew who ‘knows stuff’…

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    ehh, I dunno about color anymore. I used to agree but if you can stomach the printing costs I dont think it matters overly much anymore. of course it depends on what your plans are, if shipping boxes are involved then it is somewhat difficult to print that pretty logo on it in bulk.

    On another note I disagree with how the bevel/glow (add in gradient/shadow too for this) comment is handled. The logo should be designed without these since they are not really features of the logo at all. They can be added later if you want but the logo should not contain them at all.. they are just decoration.

    Take the smashing logo, it works in single color and on here it has a gradient and shadow.

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    Dennis Michael

    June 25th, 2009 2:19 pm

    Bravo! Well said.

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    @josh
    I think you’ve got it spot on… it’s not that that Gareth Hardy is saying that your logo is should be black/white, it’s just that it should work in b/w… and by designing it that way ensures it does.

    btw… I see a lot of people dismissing the black&white/greyscale logo as a thing of the past, but you’d be surprised how many companies still use a fax. (and as far as I know, they still don’t print in color)

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    Thanks mates.

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  1. 1

    I wouldn’t be so harsh against crowd sourcing sites, it’s a means to an end and like buying a second hand car, we all would love a brand new ‘shiny’ ones that hit web3 style etc. etc! It’s just not the reality, most business can’t afford current commercial design fees so look to source elsewhere, without that market to gain experience in commercial work, most designers would hardly get off the ground.

    I’ve been in the graphics industry for nearly 3 decades. If you think trends are things to be ignored you’ll probably never get to the top of your profession. Hitting the mark is about being ‘on trend’ or ‘of the moment.’ It’s the reason we study at college in the first place, to understand these moves within art/design and how to exploit them…

    +54
  2. 2

    I agree with most of the points on this list. My biggest peeve with the list is that you have the “Don’t use sites like this” under the “designed by an amateur” heading. Websites like LogoWorks and LogoDesignTeam suck for us freelance designers, but to say they are amateurs is both very elitist of you, and very wrong.

    Their designers are quite good. If you look at their portfolios much of their work is better than most professional designers that I’ve seen, as far as logos go.

    +31
  3. 3

    I’ve worked in the design industry for 15 years – 11 of those years in agency work – and can whole-heartedly say that the “they don’t do the research” defense is complete rubbish. How much research is required for a logo for a dog groomer? How much for a chip shop? How about a single product plastics factory? Not much. These are the businesses that are using contest sites. Not billion-dollar companies. Single-franchise start-ups that most agencies don’t waste time on (giving the bulk of the work to the intern, throwing together logos in-between meetings with long-term clients, etc.)

    I will admit – I participate in contest site when I’m not working with clients for my freelance business. I was skeptical at first. Some logos aren’t very effective and are geared more towards the client’s taste than their customers’; however, those clients would never seek out a “professional” anyway – so it’s better for them to use a contest site or “cheap” logo service than nothing at all. Many of the designers on these sites are like me – freelancers just looking for new business and engage in some challenge.

    sidenote: You can’t cite Nike’s logo as a good logo example in the same article that you shoot-down cheap/amateur work if you consider the history of Nike’s logo at all. Nike, Apple, McDonald’s don’t have great logos – they have HUGE advertising dollars created by sound products that have made their logos well-known.

    +27
  4. 4

    sorry bob,
    u always spoiling the image of this site, shut the f** up and get out and never show off here after otherwise i will squeeze your ba**s.

    +19
  5. 5

    Actually I think ANY kind of involvement in design is beneficial. I know those online/competitive sites are a shark-pit, but if you’re surfin’ Google too much, your time is better served joining in and polishing your technique. Sure. You may never win but you’ll have some nice pieces for your book. Which is one of the things Gareth missed.

    Always practice, logo design, even if you have no jobs, it’s a good idea to play with letter shapes and forms to become more familiar with shape interplay

    +17
  6. 6

    Could not agree with you more anon. This is a good article for someone who is an amateur and wants to learn, but half the people making so many critical comments on here I would be willing to bet they are no better at designing logos themselves so have a bit of modesty and reel it in. I believe an amateur designer is still capable of designing a great logo and people should not have such a dismissive attitude. The professionals don’t always get it right either, 2012 logo anyone!!!

    +14
  7. 7

    so if it was amateur junk, and u are so proficient, you lost your chance to win. some time ago you were amateur as well.

    +12
  8. 8

    Barb, I think Philip made the right decision. Most contest holders don’t understand what makes a good logo, and so they often choose amateur designs which they later regret. There’s also the psychological fact that too many choices lead to bad decision-making; this phenomenon is described in several books, most notably: The Paradox of Choice by Barry Schwartz.

    When a professional enters an amateur contest, it more than likely: a) wastes his time, b) doesn’t challenge him to grow and get better, and c) makes his own work look amateurish via association.

    In fact, having hosted my own logo contest and watched many others, I can say the only time a professional designer should enter an amateur contest is if at least two of the following four situations apply: a) the designer has been asked to enter, b) the designer is bored, c) the designer feels inspired by a particular contest’s brief, or d) the designer feels the contest holder has taste and will recognize talent through the numbing din of amateur entries.

    +9
  9. 9

    Exactly how does a logo fail? Will you stop visiting the local coffee shop that makes excellent mochas because they designed the logo themselves and it’s too plain or too complicated? Will you not eat at the local rib joint because it looks like a hillbilly sign? Will you withdraw your savings because the local bank redesigned its logo to what you interpret to be too amateurish? Logos don’t fail, except in the sense that those with the EYE FOR IT notice it…and no on else. 3 out of 600 people notice or care. Just like a drywaller notices how absolutely horrible the drywall and ceilings look in the most expensive hotel, yet it still remains a 5-star getaway….get my drift?

    +8
  10. 10

    Ray VanDerLinden

    May 19th, 2010 9:14 am

    It is actually more important for the logo to be presented as a 1 color flat image than it is a full color multi-dimensional image. If your logo does not break down well. Epic design fail!

    +8
  11. 11

    Hello,

    I loved to read this article i my self is the designer just want to add my views in this i say that:

    While this is a rather arbitrary subject as everyone will have personal preference, there are some tried and true criteria to meet in order to have an effective logo. One of the main ones is simplicity. Remember that a logo is meant to simply make your company memorable, you do not have to fit every aspect of your business into one small logo.

    Over the years, large marketing agencies have spent a great deal of money in researching how colors will affect ones subconscious. The ones you choose will vary depending on the type of business you are running. Colors such as green, blue and purple will typically instill a feeling of calm, peaceful harmony in the viewer. Brighter colors such as red or yellow and shades in between, will give a sense of bright cheerful optimism. Generally, a logo should have no more than 2 colors, and only one font if applicable. This will go a long way towards simplicity. Look at designs such as Fed-Ex or Microsoft and seem how they have created a timeless, simple logo with harmony in it’s colors, and nothing complex to strain the eye.

    And when we talk of price one should consider cheap logo design services which are offered online by many freelancers because they do really high quality graphics and very cheap price.

    Regards

    +8
  12. 12

    The ideas are good but just because someone is “professional” doesn’t make them good in any profession. There are talented amatuers in all fields. I’ve seen some professional stuff that made me wonder what they were thinking. My dad was a commercial artist so I grew up with some of this stuff.

    +8
  13. 13

    I think this article is very good. The points are all worthy. However, the critics seem to be amateurs themselves.

    If one is to be good at anything in life—design, engineering, teaching, or even being a professional blogger—then one needs a grasp on the English language and the spelling thereof! I can’t say that strongly enough. Ugh! It is my pet peeve that there are people in this world that do not spell check their typos, do not have the ability to spell, and/or do not have basic English grammar abilities.

    I am NOT referring to foreigners whose native tongue is not English. They get a hall pass on this. It’s great that they are taking the time to learn a second language. And anyone who does that should be commended.

    But for the rest of you, please, be an adult and educate yourself on the tool we all use to communicate—words.

    +8
  14. 14

    I recall you yourself, Smash Magazine, holding a contest for your own new logo design and your new logo breaks the “trendy” and gradient “rules”. Your logo is not distinct and appears like a piece of stock clip-art. While I do agree with most of your “rules” in this article, I suggest you take a long look at your own practices Smash, before you sit high on the holier than thou design process criticism throne. Rules are made to be broken.

    +8
  15. 15

    I found this to be a very enlightening article for the beginner. Everything in the article is true. However, I found it narrow minded and rather generic. If that was the intent, then you certainly accomplished your goal. Please don’t take this as a bad comment, simply an honest one. I would HIGHLY reccomend this to business owners, but never to a designer. It is the artists job to create eye-catching designs to entice their prospective client. IMO. Bring the client in, slowly show them the bells and whistles you can add. Get them excited! Then email them a link to this article and ask that they read it over. While they are doing that, design 3 mock-ups. One basic, one edgy that follows the guidelines of this article and the last one just explodeing with filters, fonts and effects. When your newly educated client comes back they will feel good about choosing the slightly edgey design that still uses this articles’ guidelines. Nothing makes a business owner feel better about a sale then it being their idea. IOW, this article is a wonderfull tool but do not let it stiffle your creativity all together.

    +8
  16. 16

    Hello Aqeel,

    In the interest of maintaining some standard in the comments sections please allow the following remark. How come your first sentence is grammatically very different from the rest of your comment? I found the exact same passage on other websites, e.g. the 110designs-Blog (just google it and you will, too). The fact that your first sentence is very incorrect while the remainder of your comment is in flawless English lets me conclude that these are not your words.

    Nobody should have a problem with someone’s writing being a little off, but you should definitely not claim credit for someone else’s thoughts. That would be plagiarism.

    Regards

    +8
  17. 17

    I found myself nodding and agreeing with everything in this article! I joined a logo competition site as I had abit of time to kill and was bored, but it was just absolutely FULL of amateur junk I did not want to be associated with. Every possible mistake had been posted as entry!

    Very agreeable article

    regards

    philip

    +6
  18. 18

    Alex E. Schneider

    June 25th, 2009 5:59 pm

    Everything about this list is bad, because:

    1. Logo’s acquire meaning not through their design, but through a company’s actions. If you need a logo, you can start with a simple black dot. What helps your business is your brain and how you act, not your logo. Your logo represents nothing, if you don’t.

    2. Logo’s should not be made for anyone else but yourself. If it is your business to make logos for others, you are in the business of pretending that you care or understand what someone else represents. You don’t. You just want a stupid design award for your design work (and are probably willing to pay a jury for it). Start realizing that revenue is the real reward. Why don’t you design for yourself and trade products or services? Are you so confident in your skills?

    3. The first point of this list is a fabrication, written to appeal to designers who sell logo design, and not written to inspire any understanding about logo design. “amateurish” and “professional” are words without meaning. Hallelujah.

    4. A logo should reflect a purpose (note that I didn’t write: “have a purpose”), which means that its conception should be attached to something you have already done. If you allow an agency to make up scenarios, you are just paying for creativity, and diluting your identity.

    5. Theorizing logo design is as futile as theorizing about naming. The name Michael Jackson carries meaning not because someone put that name together.

    6. Each of the points in the list can be refuted by real-life examples. If you are a logo designer, find those examples. That could give you all the reasons not to design for others, but only for yourself. The world will not get better if everyone wants to tell everyone else how to run aspects of a business. Are you satisfied by living in a meta-economy?

    The purpose of life is to trade, not to creep into the lives of others and pretend that you can paint success into a logo.

    +5
  19. 19

    Indeed, these are rules I can agree with whole-heartedly. Now, if only I could get my CLIENTS to believe them… *headdesk*

    +5
  20. 20

    I am new to designing and article like this is certainly very helpful.
    Thanks.

    +4
  21. 21

    Just thought you’d like to know, in case you didn’t already:

    http://www.globalsiteplans.com/environmental-design/7-logo-design-mistakes/

    +4
  22. 22

    At some point it’s true, but generally, good designers know how to design for people who are not acquainted with the visual art. They study human perception through visuals to say the least. There’s a lot of work that needs to be considered to get a good logo that reflects companies visions. Just imagine a guy looking for a job won’t come to an interview with his pajamas on. :)

    +4
  23. 23

    Watch how you phrase #1; beginning designers need to get work in order to build their portfolio and become “established and professional.” If nobody hires them, the logo designer will be a dying breed!

    +3
  24. 24

    Article is alright, another list of “rules”. If you follow them, again, you are not thinking outside the box. It is ok sometimes to break the rules, but no doubt all technical requirements should be always followed (resolution, outlined fonts, spot colors etc…., … or not, it depends on project).

    Style wise – it always depends.

    For example:

    9. Has Too Many Fonts
    logo for font online store – why wouldn’t they include couple of fonts just for fun to show variety of fonts they offer?

    7. Relies On Color For Its Effect
    what if the logo is for printing services company?

    Every rule has an exception.

    Every business should concentrate on their services better than logo itself. Every one would agree the logo is good if business is successful.

    +3
  25. 25

    VictoriaAnn Design

    February 8th, 2010 6:20 am

    Logos designed in Photoshop is one of my pet peeves. Also on this list should be ‘not providing the client with suitable files’. This comes up when a client later requests a brochure design or similar for professional print then proceed to send over a 150×60 gif because it’s all they have, designed in Photoshop!!

    Love the images used in your article especially the stock art one – that made me chuckle!

    +3
  26. 26

    Good article. A coworker breaks almost all of these rules with each design he does -if it’s not just a straight tracing ripoff of something he found online. Copyright lawyers would have a field-day with his work.

    +3
  27. 27

    Steve Jobs hired someone to do logo is it? He design by himself…So did Bill Gates…Enzo Ferrari as well….An Entrepreneur creates idea from his observation and he add value to his creation by his own creativity. So, he does not need any other design company for his idea….They are making money out of you…They are trying to bring an opinion that u ain’t creative enough to do a design for your own business…How inane can that be?

    +3
  28. 28

    thanks 4 this…all positive inputs are truly appreciated…

    +3
  29. 29

    Excellent article. Thanks for sharing.

    Now-a-days I shiver at the idea of a company putting their identity in the hands of some teen who thinks they can design because they’ve messed around in photoshop a bunch.

    But I can sympathize with that teen because I was once one. I remember designing a construction company’s logo when I was 17. I really didn’t know what I was doing but I thought it was so exciting and fun.

    +2
  30. 30

    funnily enough smashing magazine already broke rule number one, if not rule number two and so on already.
    Smashing magazine didn’t only get non professionals to make the logo, they relied on people from their own community, most of the people in this community are trying to LEARN. its like getting a kid to build your house.
    and don’t tell me that the shininess haven’t been a trend for the last 3 years.

    +2

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