10 Common Mistakes In Logo Design
With the power of the Web, and more eyes watching than ever, it’s important for a business to communicate its unique message clearly. The easiest way to recognize a company and distinguish it from others is by its logo. Below, we go through 10 common logo design mistakes that you should avoid if you want to create a successful and professional logo.
1. Designed By An Amateur

Avoid websites that promote ridiculously cheap logo packages. You get what you pay for.
A professional business should look professional. New business owners often invest a lot of time and money in property and equipment, but do not often match it by investing suitably in their logo.
Here are the most common reasons why many logos look amateurish:
- The business owner wanted to save money by designing the logo quickly themselves.
- A friend or relative who claims to know a little about graphic design does it as a favor.
- The wrong people are commissioned. (Local printers are not likely proficient in logo design.)
- The business outsourced the job via one of several design competition websites, which are mostly populated by amateur designers.
- The job was given to an online company that offers really cheap logos.
All of the above can result in disastrous outcomes. If your logo looks amateurish, then so will your business. A business should know where to look when it wants a new logo. David Airey offers great insight on how to choose the right logo designer for your requirements.
Here are the advantages of hiring an established and professional logo designer:
- Your logo will be unique and memorable.
- You won’t run into any problems down the line with reproducing it.
- Your logo will have a longer lifespan and won’t need to be redesigned in a couple of years.
- Your logo will look professional.
2. Relies On Trends

Focusing on current logo trends is like putting a sell-by date on a logo.
Trends (whether swooshes, glows or bevels) come and go and ultimately turn into cliches. A well-designed logo should be timeless, and this can be achieved by ignoring the latest design tricks and gimmicks. The biggest cliche in logo design is the dreaded “corporate swoosh,” which is the ultimate way to play it safe. As a logo designer, your job is to create a unique identity for your client, so completely ignoring logo design trends is best.
Logolounge has a great section on its website in which it updates current logo design trends every year. Being aware as a designer of the latest crazes is important, mainly so that you can avoid them at all costs.
3. Uses Raster Images

An example of how raster graphics can limit reproduction.
Standard practice when designing a logo is to use vector graphics software, such as Adobe Illustrator or Corel Draw. A vector graphic is made up of mathematically precise points, which ensures visual consistency across multiple sizes. The alternative, of course, is use to raster graphics software, such as Adobe Photoshop. A raster graphic — or bitmap, as it’s commonly called — consists of pixels.
Using raster images for logos is not advisable because it can cause problems with reproduction. While Photoshop is capable of creating very large logos, you never know for sure how large you will have to reproduce your logo at some point. If you zoom in enough on a raster graphic, it will appear pixelated, making it unusable. Maintaining visual consistency by making sure the logo looks the same in all sizes is essential.
The main advantages of vector graphics for logo design are:
- The logo can be scaled to any size without losing quality.
- Editing the logo later on is much easier.
- It can be adapted to other media more easily than a raster image.
4. Contains Stock Art

Using stock vector graphics in a logo puts your client at risk.
This mistake is often made by business owners who design their own logo or by amateur designers who are not clued in to the laws on copyright. Downloading stock vector imagery from websites such as VectorStock is not a crime, but it could possibly get you in trouble if you incorporate it in a logo.
A logo should be unique and original, and the licensing agreement should be exclusive to the client: using stock art breaks both of these rules. Chances are, if you are using a stock vector image, it is also being used by someone somewhere else in the world, so yours is no longer unique. You can pretty easily spot stock vectors in logos because they are usually familiar shapes, such as globes and silhouettes.
5. Designing For Yourself Rather Than The Client

Never impose your own personality onto a client’s work.
You can often spot this logo design sin a mile away; the cause is usually a designer’s enormous ego. If you have found a cool new font that you can’t wait to use in a design, well… don’t. Ask yourself if that font is truly appropriate for the business you’re designing for? For example, a great modern typographic font that you just love is not likely suited to a serious business such as a lawyer’s office.
Some designers also make the mistake of including a “trademark” in their work. While you should be proud of your work, imposing your personality onto a logo is wrong. Stay focused on the client’s requirements by sticking to the brief.
6. Overly Complex

Highly detailed designs don’t scale well when printed or viewed in smaller sizes.
What better analogy for thumbnail images than fingerprints? You’ll notice the intricacies of your fingerprints only when looking at them really close up. As soon as you move away, those details are lost. The same holds true for highly detailed logo designs.
When printed in small sizes, a complex design will lose detail and in some cases will look like a smudge or, worse, a mistake. The more detail a logo has, the more information the viewer has to process. A logo should be memorable, and one of the best ways to make it memorable is to keep things simple. Look at the corporate identities of Nike, McDonald’s and Apple. Each company has a very simple icon that can easily be reproduced at any size.
7. Relies On Color For Its Effect

Without color, your great design may lose its identity.
This is a very common mistake. Some designers cannot wait to add color to a design, and some rely on it completely. Choosing color should be your last decision, so starting your work in black and white is best.
Every business owner will need to display their logo in only one color at one time or another, so the designer should test to see whether this would affect the logo’s identity. If you use color to help distinguish certain elements in the design, then the logo will look completely different in one tone.
8. Poor Choice Of Font

Font choice can make or break a logo.
When it comes to executing a logo, choosing the right font is the most important decision a designer can make. More often than not, a logo fails because of a poor font choice (our example shows the infamous Comic Sans).
Finding the perfect font for your design is all about matching the font to the style of the icon. But this can be tricky. If the match is too close, the icon and font will compete with each other for attention; if the complete opposite, then the viewer won’t know where to focus. The key is finding the right balance, somewhere in the middle. Every typeface has a personality. If the font you have chosen does not reflect the icon’s characteristics, then the whole message of the brand will misfire.
Bad fonts are often chosen simply because the decision isn’t taken seriously enough. Some designers simply throw in type as an afterthought. Professional font foundries, such as MyFonts and FontFont, offer much better typeface options than those over-used websites that offer free downloads.
9. Has Too Many Fonts

A logo works best with a maximum of two fonts.
Using too many fonts is like trying to show someone a whole photo album at once. Each typeface is different, and the viewer needs time to recognize it. Seeing too many at once causes confusion.
Using a maximum of two fonts of different weights is standard practice. Restricting the number of fonts to this number greatly improves the legibility of a logo design and improves brand recognition.
10. Copies Others
This is the biggest logo design mistake of all and, unfortunately, is becoming more and more common. As mentioned, the purpose of a logo is to represent a business. If it looks the same as someone else’s, it has failed in that regard. Copying others does no one any favors, neither the client nor the designer.





Marion
June 25th, 2009 2:46 pmI agree with Wouter–don’t dismiss the notion of ensuring that logos will still work in B&W. The whole idea of a logo is to create an identity that will last and can be used in any type of application into the foreseeable future. Who knows where that company may expand in the future and there may be situations where the use of a B&W logo is not only practical because it’s cheaper to reproduce, but may be aesthetically more desirable than a colour logo.
Mark Provan
June 25th, 2009 3:32 pmExcellent article :) Well done!
Internet Strategist
June 25th, 2009 3:38 pmThis is the best post I’ve seen on the very real SPECIFIC drawbacks of not going with a professional logo designer. Any business that starts out with a logo that only works on the Web will be faced with a far more expensive and risky rebranding challenge when they expand into print media or any medium that requires grayscale or resizing for other uses.
I am currently researching a post about the differences between inexpensive logo design, logo design contest sites, and working with professional designers with a major emphasis on what you don’t receive and how that can impact you in the long run. This post really contributes and will, of course, be recommended and linked.
That Web Guy
June 25th, 2009 3:54 pmTop stuff SM. I’ve been meaning to write on this very subject and you’ve managed to say a couple of things I hadn’t considered.
Jurica
June 25th, 2009 4:09 pmLMAO article!
Michael [linefeed]
June 25th, 2009 4:20 pmWhen will you web guys ever get the message. It’s not about ‘Logo Design’. It’s about having a cohesive visual identity. A system. A logo is juts a mark and on it’s own means very little. It it’s usage and what surrounds it that makes the big different, otherwise it’s just more visual noise. Here’s a great example of an identity system that doesn’t even need a logo… http://www.heads.ch/index.php?content=referenzen&lang=en#82-Dynamic-Branding–Namics
Michael [linefeed]
June 25th, 2009 4:21 pmThere is no such thing as a ‘professional’ logo designer.
Chris Crocker
June 25th, 2009 4:36 pmLeave COMIC SANS alone!!!!
Alex E. Schneider
June 25th, 2009 5:59 pmEverything about this list is bad, because:
1. Logo’s acquire meaning not through their design, but through a company’s actions. If you need a logo, you can start with a simple black dot. What helps your business is your brain and how you act, not your logo. Your logo represents nothing, if you don’t.
2. Logo’s should not be made for anyone else but yourself. If it is your business to make logos for others, you are in the business of pretending that you care or understand what someone else represents. You don’t. You just want a stupid design award for your design work (and are probably willing to pay a jury for it). Start realizing that revenue is the real reward. Why don’t you design for yourself and trade products or services? Are you so confident in your skills?
3. The first point of this list is a fabrication, written to appeal to designers who sell logo design, and not written to inspire any understanding about logo design. “amateurish” and “professional” are words without meaning. Hallelujah.
4. A logo should reflect a purpose (note that I didn’t write: “have a purpose”), which means that its conception should be attached to something you have already done. If you allow an agency to make up scenarios, you are just paying for creativity, and diluting your identity.
5. Theorizing logo design is as futile as theorizing about naming. The name Michael Jackson carries meaning not because someone put that name together.
6. Each of the points in the list can be refuted by real-life examples. If you are a logo designer, find those examples. That could give you all the reasons not to design for others, but only for yourself. The world will not get better if everyone wants to tell everyone else how to run aspects of a business. Are you satisfied by living in a meta-economy?
The purpose of life is to trade, not to creep into the lives of others and pretend that you can paint success into a logo.
Justin
June 25th, 2009 7:20 pmExcellent article and it’s all fact.
The biggest offender I see from clients, especially in publications is the use of too many fonts. I spend as much time educating clients on design standards and communciations as I do on design fore them.
Tejendra Shandilya
June 25th, 2009 7:37 pmg8 article
thanks
Chris
June 25th, 2009 8:47 pmSchneider you’re spot on from the business standpoint or that of an entrepreneur, but these articles are obviously written for the designers point of view, and in that respect I would say with the exception of the first one, it’s pretty valuable. Great article, but SM you have to admit that having a great logo is completely uncorrelated with success in business, if only that more highly funded projects have the budget to get a “professional” designer to do their work.
smalllotus
June 25th, 2009 8:57 pmIt’s very useful for me,great:)~~
Juavenita
June 25th, 2009 9:44 pmLoved the Article, thanks SM
Sameer C Thiruthikad
June 25th, 2009 10:10 pmAwesome article!
Two Socks - Graphic design and print
June 25th, 2009 10:15 pmNow if only we could get CLIENTS to read this blog!!!
Andreas
June 25th, 2009 10:57 pmExcellent stuff – in my short career as amateur logo designer I have already made all of those mistakes – good to see them again.
Currently trying to become amateur++ – see you later ;-)
Andreas
slingblade
June 25th, 2009 11:46 pmThere is a large Japanese toy company who merged with a large video game company in 2005 who’s actual logo gets the company name back to front. No its not cultural, its a genuine mistake. So maybe mistake number 11 should be – name on logo, different to actual company name.
N.N.
June 25th, 2009 11:55 pmA couple of technical things that was not mentioned in this article, esp. in point one, talking about amateur vs. professional logos. One outcome from an amateur logo designer is basically that your logo cannot be used, because it has the wrong technical specs. So I thought I would just list some technical stuff, since this article did focused more on the design, and not the tech stuff. Needless to say, the tech stuff needs to be in place for the logo to even be used. So here are four very common errors I meet in my job:
1. Outlining of fonts. There is nothing more annoying to me, I work for a design agency, than to get logos together for projects from other “professional” graphic designers have made, and they have not outlined the fonts, so the font gets replaced when I try to open the file, and it just messes up the whole logo. ALWAYS remember to outline your fonts!
2. Logos made on white background instead of with transparency. You have no idea how many times I have basically gotten an image inserted into an eps-file. From ”Professional” designers Basically logos that are made for only one background color instead of making them so they can fit on both dark, light and colored backgrounds. This was briefly mentioned, but I wanted to emphasize on the transparency! Please remember to put the logo on transparent background!
3. Not making compound shapes of the logo-elements. Very often combined with the point above, so it takes forever to make a logo monochrome for printing stuff i.e. in black and white. Clean up your file before you send it away to others!
4. Not making monochrome and black and white and inverted monochrome versions of the logo. This article did mention the point that many designers rely on color, but should have also more specifically mentioned that a professional logo designer should always make versions of the logo ready to use for different kind of print jobs, or make the logo in such a way that it is easy for me to change the logo into 1 single color for black and white printing.
/ end whining, back to coffee
N.N.
June 26th, 2009 12:03 am@josh about not caring about black and white logo and just using color: I have worked with music festivals and band-logos and the sponsor-logos, and basically, when I make posters for a festival, it is the festival that decides how the posters should be printed, not the single band or sponsor. For example it is quite common to have all the sponsoring logos in one color to make them blend in more with the poster. So I guess my point is that for your own printing – you can of course pay more and always get it printed in neat color, but what about when your client sends the logo away to be used with somebody else, sponsoring/bands/promoting elsewhere? Then you should have thought about a logo in 1 color. :)
Michiel
June 26th, 2009 12:03 amGreat article. Worth five stars out of five.
RCKY
June 26th, 2009 12:27 am@N.N.: yap! Especially like these “not cleaned” up files … sometimes it takes hours to clean up all the little small lines, shapes and even senseless/unclosed paths in logodesigns.
And btw: B/W is really important! Just look at all the small newspapers, your stores should advertise in… Another point for me should be the difference between web and general logodesign.
allen
June 26th, 2009 12:45 amfunnily enough smashing magazine already broke rule number one, if not rule number two and so on already.
Smashing magazine didn’t only get non professionals to make the logo, they relied on people from their own community, most of the people in this community are trying to LEARN. its like getting a kid to build your house.
and don’t tell me that the shininess haven’t been a trend for the last 3 years.
Charleen
June 26th, 2009 12:47 amMJ R.I.P
Line of Design
June 26th, 2009 1:04 amNice to see the word spread…
dannyw
June 26th, 2009 2:49 amI’m not a pro designer, but I want to say I disagreed with a lot of the edicts in the article and responses. Only posters Alex E. Schneider and N.N. (search for “outlining of fonts”) say things that make me think they have actual practical experience. In many cases, posters say things that make me think they’ve never read a book on logo design.
1. It is hardly unusual for companies to announce a re-branding exercise, get a lot of public derision for their logo, and quietly fix it. In other words, highly-paid pro designers can get it wrong too.
2. Designers don’t usually deliver a *single* logo design. They produce *dozens* of forms designed for different media, scaling, etc. These different forms often appear identical when you’re flipping through a sample book, but when you look at them closely you can see that they’ve simplified small details on a logo scaled for a business card, and they’ve applied little highlights to give some modelling on the spot-color version, and so forth.
3. I agree that having a photograph as part of a logo is bound to cause problems. But that’s all part of dealing with the client — you have to explain what those problems are going to be. For instance, explain that he’s going to *need* multiple versions of the logo — that way he won’t think your design sucks because it didn’t work on business cards, he’ll just say “yep, we need to pay the designer again to generate a new version, just like he told us”.
Sometimes, of course, you can’t convince the buyer. Just document your objections, and take the money. And remember, sometimes the customer is actually *right*.
Le Marquis
June 26th, 2009 4:37 amA good collection of good (and some bad) logo’s can be found here: http://logopond.com/
Just another big mistake that’s been done many times is to go to your client with just a single design! Always create at least three designs in a complete different style. Put away your old designs and clear your head (in your own way)… After that you can begin you new design.
Le Marquis
seazon
June 26th, 2009 4:59 amUse to make these kind of mistakes all the time as a rookie, I’d rather draw something on paper before I get any ideas for a logo.
Never start working at the computer, always think what the logo should represent.
Jessica Wieberdink
June 26th, 2009 6:06 amHow funny, when i read this article (very good by the way) there was a banner on top of the page: PROFESSIONAL BROCHURE DESIGN TEMPLATES
Speaking of professional design :)
Bad_Self
June 26th, 2009 6:06 am@RCKY Totally with you on the B+W, same with N.N., you don’t always have control over the print specs. Methinks too many posters here don’t really qualify as *graphic designers* – more like html coders (and probably good ones too) who use photoshop tutorials to bang out “look and feels”.
If you can’t build it in vector, it will suck (why vectorize it after? holy cleanup! Don’t kid yourself with vector trace software – unless you have to I guess).
Photoshop for a logo? Not only a raster nightmare but people please, don’t jizz in your pants!
sandman6665
June 26th, 2009 7:22 amI agree! Great article, straight and clear to the points. A must read to both clients and designers.
Andrew Butterworth
June 26th, 2009 7:31 amI would be very interested if you could take a look at the logos on my site and let me know what you think. I am always trying to improve so any comments are welcome. link
RedKoala
June 26th, 2009 7:53 amI think the worse thing is to use the wrong fonts, I can forgive other things but when I see Comic Sans it makes me shiver
blah
June 26th, 2009 8:09 amThis comment is undeniably negative so brace yourself. This list is obvious to designers with any sort of respect for communication design. Point #5 is not a line in the sand by any stretch, I can think of numerous successful marks that do not follow this methodology for example the bank of new york logo that is now extinct due to a merger, its possible to create versions of the logo to reflect the application. Distinctiveness is not solely built on simplicity its built on….well….distinctiveness. #7 is not a relevant point of view, professional firms specializing in branding will always create version of marks for each usage along with a brand guide, these version will utilize percentages for one color reproduction and will even tweak them (color kerning if you will) to create contrast. Overall this article loses site of the big picture of building strong brand identities that have the ability to express themselves across all mediums, reducing itself to an article solely about “logo” (which in that I suppose it lives up to its title).
Declan ONeill
June 26th, 2009 9:12 amExcellent article, especially number 2 “Focusing on current logo trends is like putting a sell-by date on a logo.” this is so true.
Graeme Roberts
June 26th, 2009 11:20 amThis is a great article. Think too about color printing in your choice of colors. Make sure that it looks good in digital production printing and process color offset. Spot colors and varnishes can be great on some print pieces, but don’t rely on them to look good.
Dainis Graveris
June 26th, 2009 12:43 pmWow, actually some time we can dig goldmine, great points made here, lovely post!
jooleeo
June 26th, 2009 1:59 pmThe number 7 can be converted to grayscale, and it works, for axample maybe the orange could be a 80% of black and the yellow a 40%, am i wrong?
Daine Moodah
June 26th, 2009 3:27 pmAlter Falter, wie sich die Leute hier geben! Haben sich wahrscheinlich erst vor einem Jahr die nötige Software vom “PiratenStrand” gesaugt und spucken hier die großen Töne, von wegen, wie toll der Artikel für ANFÄNGER seih… aber sieeee würden noch dieses und jenes anders/besser(!) machen… das interessiert uns doch die Bohne, Leute.
Trotz allem finde ich den Artikel wirklich schön zusammengefasst.
Ich wünsch’ euch was SmMag
Angstrom
June 26th, 2009 5:51 pmThis is a great article to point clients at. Thanks for that!
Tanya
June 26th, 2009 11:19 pmThis is the sort of thing we try to ingrain to our clients!! Love it!
djaka
June 27th, 2009 2:58 amanybody here need a logo? I can make one for you for as cheap as 10.000$
that should make me a professional one, right?
Steve B
June 27th, 2009 12:40 pmI’ve always found a common mistake is for a client to think that their logo should somehow literally reflect who they are, like a graphical cariacture of the people in the company. Instead, a logo should reflect what they are. The difficult part of a brand/corporate identity isn’t the logo, it’s creating the great product, service and support system that build loyal customers – would you think differently of Lexus or Apple if their logos were a different shape? Based on the teaching of Tom Hughes Iv’e written a short PDF summary, err rant, on this topic here.
Elizabeth G.
June 27th, 2009 1:16 pmWatch how you phrase #1; beginning designers need to get work in order to build their portfolio and become “established and professional.” If nobody hires them, the logo designer will be a dying breed!
Julia
June 27th, 2009 7:02 pmArticle is alright, another list of “rules”. If you follow them, again, you are not thinking outside the box. It is ok sometimes to break the rules, but no doubt all technical requirements should be always followed (resolution, outlined fonts, spot colors etc…., … or not, it depends on project).
Style wise – it always depends.
For example:
9. Has Too Many Fonts
logo for font online store – why wouldn’t they include couple of fonts just for fun to show variety of fonts they offer?
7. Relies On Color For Its Effect
what if the logo is for printing services company?
Every rule has an exception.
Every business should concentrate on their services better than logo itself. Every one would agree the logo is good if business is successful.
MarxAmante
June 27th, 2009 8:32 pmI’m guilty with some of the mistakes above. My favorite would probably be “contains stock art” Now that I’ve been made aware. I will try to be unique and professional all the time.
Julia
June 27th, 2009 8:42 pmyeah… talking about staying away from trends – Smashing Magazine one great source of trends :) imho
good blog, nice showcases, but pretty pretty pretty trendy. I think a lot of people would agree.
no offense
Armig Esfahani
June 27th, 2009 10:05 pmgreat article… I liked number 6 and 8 the most.. sometimes we forget considering them focusing on the idea we have in mind then wonder why it didn’t look good..
davehimslef
June 27th, 2009 11:04 pmHere is some simple advice. Spend money on not having a bad logo. Spend money so you don’t end up with a piece of clip-art and comic sans. But DO NOT spend money on having a GREAT logo (unless you’ve got money to burn.) Google did not have a great logo. Are there a billion CBGBs shirts out there because the logo is so awesome? Get a GOOD logo and provide a GREAT service.
Danish Refai
June 28th, 2009 1:34 amGreat Article ! A Must for Designers ! Keep it Smashing !
Rohan Lobo
June 28th, 2009 2:09 amvery informative
Will keep the tips in mind while designing my lobo
Rich
June 28th, 2009 3:02 amGreat, now I can continue to design my amateur logos much better :-P
Mahallo Media
June 28th, 2009 3:47 amGreat tips, thanks for sharing :)
designiac
June 28th, 2009 5:52 am“7. Relies On Color For Its Effect” is really a very common mistake.
good article for absolute beginners…
dlv
June 28th, 2009 11:59 amgreat! really clear post, nice read
thanks for it !
Cooty
June 28th, 2009 12:59 pmGood article, as a newby designer I really found it helpful and thought-provoking!
G-man
June 28th, 2009 5:11 pmWhat is wrong with you people? You’re so amazed and so affirmative, it’s like a global disease. The article may have some good points, but it’s not exactly the groundbreaking revelation from the Design God himself!!
AmandaM
June 28th, 2009 6:56 pmNice article. A good logo is something every business should not skimp on. More people need to realize that the latest trend will not last as long as their company will (hopefully). Unique logos are key to brand recognition and every designer should strive to give their client just that.
Thanks for the info.
Matsuo Amon
June 28th, 2009 9:25 pmI love number 8.. xD You used Comic Sans!!! haha..
omtay38
June 28th, 2009 9:26 pmGreat article. There’s a prevailing micro-trend of writing these sorts of “how-to design a good logo” articles going on across the blogosphere. This one, however, takes the cake with it’s concise, demonstrable images. Three cheers!
Gusgsm
June 29th, 2009 12:35 amNicely and briefly put.
The examples illustrate the points extremely well.
Well done :)
Adam Almendras
June 29th, 2009 12:41 amVery nice article! very useful.
b-OBBY
June 29th, 2009 2:04 amThis article gonna help me to redesign my own logo.. All-over again ….Shukriya (thanks SM)
nmlss
June 29th, 2009 4:18 amVery useful!! Thanks a lot, I’ll keep in mind all this tips.
Calvin
June 29th, 2009 8:16 amGood guidelines to follow (and break sometimes). Any of you seen/read any of Martin Lindstrom’s stuff (brandsense, buyology)? He’s got some interesting views on the future of logos and branding. Marboro did a billboard ad just displaying cowboys and no logo at all because they found out that that image is so ingrained in smokers minds it gives them a craving.
eduardo De Faria
June 29th, 2009 9:24 amA good logo does not need a computer to be created. A good designer does not need a computer to create logos. And the best logos are those created before computers start to create logos.
toby
June 29th, 2009 1:57 pmAgree with all, though I’m with Tom some of the way in that #7 is not an absolute. Google and Firefox look like good branding to me yet rely heavily on colour.
Alexander Gessler
June 29th, 2009 9:11 pmSome good facts are in this post! I hope that clients read this article too.
Nicolaas Van den Broek
June 29th, 2009 11:31 pmdissapointing article smashing, another cliched list from the traditionalist…#7 makes my head hurt.
The advise is great for a beginners however i was expecting something more juicy from smashing. Counterpoints:
#7
Clearly colour can ‘make’ a logo and is not a mistake logo designers make. Yes an interesting graphic form will almost necessarily make a logo work however this statement has plenty of counterexamples. I.e. Succesfull logos that work as result of color execution. google anyone? amongst many.
Henxon
June 30th, 2009 12:16 amI would not agree 100% on the point: “Keep logo simple”. Look at Sony Ericsson’s new logo – it’s incredible detailed and contains gradients.Good article though…
louna
June 30th, 2009 2:46 amExcellent advices and great article !!!!!!!!!!
roudi
June 30th, 2009 2:48 amI ‘am happy
Rakesh Sivan
June 30th, 2009 2:52 amNice article with good insights about logos.. It may help designers.
ReadyPhotoSite
June 30th, 2009 5:57 amthe tips here are obvious, but there one thing I can’t agree with. There’s no guarantee that the top designer for lots of money won’t use the same concept that you can buy for $10, just because there are thousands of such concepts
Aneslin
June 30th, 2009 8:30 amnice article,
if i hire an icon designer, i can test these things
thx a lot
Peter Lacey
June 30th, 2009 9:09 amWow! some people really miss the point of this article. Having a well designed logo doesn’t guarantee success, but having a well designed logo that reflects the cores of the business will certainly help in your promotion of the business. Stating business ethics is missing the point of the article and sadly shows your contempt for designers.
The monochrome/B&W point is another one that some people don’t seem to have grasped. The logo should work without colour not because of the need to save money in print but because it concentrates on the design and impact of the logo. As for digital printing this is reserved for small runs and though the quality is very good it has draw backs, including the limitations of CMYK and material it can print on. It hasn’t yet replaced web offset or litho and it certainly won’t replace digital media.
The logo’s I’ve created are all designed in B&W first and then figured for RGB, CMYK or Pantone. The colours may have already been decided but they can cloud the design if introduced too early.
A great read, which should be the foundation for many readers. Remember, its important to know the rules before you start bending them.
OpenGraphicDesign
June 30th, 2009 9:33 amI have to agree with ReadyPhotoSite, there no guarantee that an expensive designer won’t use the same concept as a cheap-o designer. Anyone, not just 20 year veterans, can come up with a good logo as long as the preliminary work, research, thought, communication and creativity have been put in place. The only way to get better at creating logos is… creating more logos. The more you do, the better you will get. -Henry
Joe Baron Design
June 30th, 2009 10:12 amI think this was a good article. I think starting out everyone tends to break these rules, maybe one or two. I’m a big enforcer on starting in black and white. I think that sample used, could’ve been turned into black and white easily, but for the sake of the argument it made its point. It was very useful and I’m passing on this link.
Jim L.
June 30th, 2009 10:49 amIn reference to points 8 and 9; Doyald Young said “Every logotype is its own font.” After picking the right font modify certain characters for that particular grouping of letters, because the spelling isn’t going to change. The original font was designed for many possible combinations of letters. Also don’t fall into the “Pick a font, pick a color, here’s the logo” lazy design trap.
Bronx GD
June 30th, 2009 4:14 pmI have done quite well as a designer for some years now. Recently the phone doesn’t ring as much as it used to do and the cashflow is waning. Is it the economic crisis? I think not. The real reason is because I freakin’ hate this “profession” –to the guts– and I have an increasingly bad attitude about it. I totally agree with Mr. Alex Schneider. Quit pretending; most of us don’t give a rat’s posterior about “the client”. That’s the main problem with us “creatives”: what we really want is to inflate our egos to mounstrous proportions by winning stupid contests & getting praise from our colleagues. The world is going to be a very different place in the coming years. Is graphic design a commodity? Hell yeah. even good design. Just masturbation of the aesthetic sense.
Sharon
June 30th, 2009 4:26 pmi totally agree. but you’re preaching to the choir. how do we educate our clients to these points without crushing their egos?
Jason
June 30th, 2009 4:32 pmHaha, this is a great post! I just had a conversation with a new client that finally decided to stop doing design work on the cheap. The conversation was basically a run down of the points Gareth makes.
Sharon, just crush their egos but in a nice way. If they knew what they were doing they wouldn’t have hired you.
W3
June 30th, 2009 5:08 pma good article and very informative
karen
June 30th, 2009 8:33 pmdo you realize how repeatedly using the word “amateurish” in your articles seems to cause an insurmountable amount of pain in my ear drums.
German
July 1st, 2009 1:21 amThis branding focus. I like Smashing.
drew
July 1st, 2009 5:38 amGreat post! I think we all have had these conversations with a client or two. People just don’t realize the importance and power of a logo or brandmark.
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Greg
July 1st, 2009 6:48 am@bronxgd – quite possibly the phone is not ringing as much because you have such a sh***y attitude. just sayin’
As for the posters who don’t think that there is a need for black and white versions of logos – I think that you possibly are not aware of all the ways a logo gets used and reproduced. I have been a Sr Graphic Designer for a large international corporation for several years now and I have seen the logo used in many ways – many of them preclude the use of any color, gradient, or detail entirely. For example:
> Promotional items. Often only one color can be used and it needs to be a solid.
> blind embossing. for those neat-o corporate gifts like notebooks with leather covers, or briefcases
> Silk screening
> Awards. Often these have the logo etched into them. no gradients, no details, no colors.
> signage
> corporate communications that get printed on BW laser printers
> 3D. Logo gets made into a 3D sculpture or giant 3D sign
The list goes on. A well produced logo needs to retain its essential character in all types of use. In addition, the Designer has not done their job unless they deliver the logo with all production issues attended to: Effects expanded, transparency flattened, fonts outlined, gray scale version, flat color version (B&W), reverse (knockout) version for dark backgrounds, and all of those exported in the common formats that average office workers will need: jpeg or gif for the web and email signatures, PNGs with transparent background for those Powerpoint presentations with colored or textured backgrounds, hi-rez TIFF for the people that need hi-rez but cannot use vector files like .AI and .CD. All that stuff needs to be packed up in a nice organized fashion, including a brief style guide for all of it, and delivered to the Client.
Another reason to hire a Professional – nothing to do with egos.
Adam Brewer
July 1st, 2009 7:11 amReally enjoyed this post! Number 1 really is the number 1 rule – I wish more people would realise that you really do get what you pay for when you get design work done on the cheap. Thanks for sharing :-) Adam |
Kellie Frissell
July 1st, 2009 7:16 amNice reminders for all of us.
dkhoa
July 1st, 2009 4:47 pmlogo, simply small but big deal, good article 4 starter
Cre8ive Commando
July 1st, 2009 5:06 pmSome nice and simple tips which all make sense. Here is a basic logo design walk through which aims to help designers create logos QUICKLY as well as effectively (as designers we often have very tiny deadlines to work with!). It would work well with the tips outlined above:
AB
July 1st, 2009 6:25 pmWhile all these points make sense and are completly true to a designer customers dont care what the logo design no no’s are if they they have it set in their mind what they want.
If they like and want 4 differnet font types thats what you do no matter what you think.
yes its a crime but they are the customer paying your wage at the end of the day no matter what design world rules there are.
And we were all “amateurish” at one stage or another
Chuck Spidell
July 2nd, 2009 12:06 amDamn straight. Every logo designer should already know these rules. Mistake 1 – Designed by An Amateur, brings to mind a larger issue occurring in the design industry. Crowdsourcing websites like crowdSpring, oDesk, 99designs, Elance, and craigslist have convinced business owners they can get an award winning, strategy-driven logo for $50-150. These websites are quickly degrading the worth and value of logo design. Sure, logos are supposed to look cool but they’ve got to produce an emotional reaction within the target audience.
maflewdesigns
July 2nd, 2009 4:29 amyou`re 100% right with this! Many customers buy cheap logos, low quality and copied! That`s not right! The designers that copy and don`t have a personal idea are not designers, they are just humans that wants to make money without work!
Great post!
Rachel
July 2nd, 2009 5:33 amIt is amazing how many amateurs are out there. They know nothing about logo design. Even in a recession companies should never never ever ever be cheap when it comes to logo design.
Chris Robinson
July 2nd, 2009 9:20 amNice article, for the beginners out there.
Charles
July 2nd, 2009 10:36 amI agree with them all but budget is always a factor and for that I would suggest it’s o.k. to go with decent stock art or a amateur that you can pay only if you like it.
Charles
Jeanne
July 2nd, 2009 10:52 amDefinitely a good article for beginners, but also serves as a reminder now and again for the more seasoned vets too!
Symon
July 2nd, 2009 12:20 pmA good overview. Thanks.
Jennifer Becker
July 2nd, 2009 1:21 pmThis is a great tool , especially the specifics on the vector vs. raster.