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Louis Lazaris is a writer and freelance web developer based in Toronto, Canada. He has 9 years of experience in the web development industry and posts and tutorials on his blog, Impressive Webs. You can follow Louis on Twitter or contact him through his website.
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- 2September 7th, 2009 3:37 am
Thanks for useful article. It has a lot of examples of horizontal menus.
I would like to find out more about where logged in user menu should be placed? - 3September 7th, 2009 3:39 am
Really like idea behind the semi transparent menu… think this style of menu could be taken further… gret post as always… :)
- 4September 7th, 2009 3:42 am
Just noticed that Mozilla isn’t following your advice about the drop down menu’s. I agree with you about this. Should be an arrow of some sort to indicate a dropdown menu is there. See here: http://bit.ly/Vit0
- 5September 7th, 2009 3:43 am
It would be interesting to see a visual rhythm breakdown rather than just saying it exists nicely in a hierarchy. It’s really only Horizontal, Vertical, or weirdly organic image spliced things.
- 6September 7th, 2009 3:54 am
Wow. You left out apple.com!
- 7September 7th, 2009 4:05 am
sooo surprise menus are bad because?
- 8September 7th, 2009 4:29 am
@josh
coz end-users hate surprises!! - 9September 7th, 2009 4:29 am
@josh: the user may get scared to death :)
- 10September 7th, 2009 4:36 am
Nothing new… everybody knows that…..
- 11September 7th, 2009 5:06 am
I’m pretty sure that first article you link to on CNN’s nav talks about the challenges and limitations of horizontal menus, not vertical menus.
- 12September 7th, 2009 5:06 am
Surprise menus are bad because the users don’t see that there are more menu entries unless they click every menu entry! With a small marker you can make a user (me) very happy.
- 13September 7th, 2009 5:24 am
The surprise menus point is valid but if that means putting markers say beside 7/8 top nav items, it just looks naff.
I take umbrage at being told that “About us” or “Our Services” have an impact on usability, you cannot say we should use “About”, it doesn’t always make sense and may in fact mean a user has to click the link to find out. - 14September 7th, 2009 5:42 am
“SEO Articles” will do better in search egines than just “Articles”.
“About our SEO” will do better in search engines than just “About”.
“SEO Services” will do better in search engines than just “Services”.The biggest user of a website to keep happy is the owner of that website, the client who pays you money to have a site “out there”. With a correct SEO strategy users will not even use your navigation menu to navigate your site, but they will use Google to instantly find the content they were looking for on the site.
Cookiecutter sites and standardised navigation can be usable and good for marketing, in most cases they produce generic looking sites that no one will give a second look.
- 15September 7th, 2009 6:11 am
nice post!!!!!
- 16September 7th, 2009 6:28 am
nice post! thank you!
- 17September 7th, 2009 7:19 am
Useful article, much appreciated. Maybe nothing new for some of us, but a web site stands or falls with a good (or bad) navigation! Thank you, Louis.
- 18September 7th, 2009 7:32 am
Nice article, Thanks!
- 19September 7th, 2009 7:42 am
There is no such thing as a surprise menu if it is done correctly. Why do you need to know that it will drop down unless the category interests you? If, in the QN5 example, you were looking for an artist then you would have clicked on ‘Artists’ anyway. That it drops down and gives you a further choice before clicking can only be better and time saving! No surprise at all, well thought out IMHO.
- 20September 7th, 2009 8:17 am
Nice collection but is there some tutorials how to make something like this?
- 21September 7th, 2009 9:43 am
Nice article, Thanks!
- 22September 7th, 2009 9:46 am
Nicely done. Good points, good examples, and NOT overkill like so many posts here on Smashing. This is one I’ll be bookmarking. Thanks!
- 23September 7th, 2009 10:11 am
Definitely going to my bookmarks, EXCELENT reference article for us web-oholics!
- 24September 7th, 2009 11:02 am
Nice, very nice collection.
- 25September 7th, 2009 11:27 am
I like the examples.
Since monitors keep getting wider, but not taller, we might start seeing the opposite trend in the future.
- 26September 7th, 2009 11:38 am
Good reading. Thx for sharing.
- 27September 7th, 2009 11:50 am
Good summary article. The most important part that you mentioned is to stick with conventions, as they help for usability. Keep it simple!
- 28September 7th, 2009 3:17 pm
Nice collection, but as some have mentioned, given recent menu convention development I too don’t think there is a ‘Surprise’ drop down menu. I just assume that unless there isn’t much in that section that it’s probably going to be a drop down menu, particularly if it’s a horizontal menu.
*BUT* don’t be afraid to break the rules (conventions) if that means you achieve what you need in your designs. “Insanely Great” was never conceived by sticking to conventions.
- 29September 7th, 2009 4:09 pm
Kinda cool to see the Washtenaw CC website on here, as that’s where I’m going for my web coding/design certificates!
- 30September 7th, 2009 4:30 pm
I appreciate that you actually wrote out the reasons & explanations for choosing your examples, instead of just placing images of the “trends.” I found this helpful.
- 31September 7th, 2009 5:42 pm
Thanks very much for this! I’m in the middle of sorting out horizontal navigation for my site, so this has given me a few thing to consider :)
- 32September 7th, 2009 6:26 pm
while designing the horizontal primary navigation, I found horizontal submenu will help to reduce the distraction by using the vertical submenu.
It will be nice if Smashing could provide some tutorials about how to make those kind of navigations in JQuery or some sort in trend techniques. - 33September 7th, 2009 7:46 pm
Just great, very good article I really enjoy it
- 34September 7th, 2009 7:49 pm
Thanks for such a wonderful article. realy v. helpful.
- 35September 7th, 2009 8:14 pm
Thanks so much for including The Art of Non-Conformity on your list! I’m grateful– and I should say that the true honor goes to Reese Spykerman, my superstar designer who has put hundreds of hours of work into making the site look great.
It’s great to see the other examples as well. Keep up the good work!
- 36September 7th, 2009 8:20 pm
Even though we know this thing already, it’s nice to rewind our old backup to get some refresh. Good.
- 37September 7th, 2009 9:20 pm
Just to provide another reason why I think “surprise drop down menus” are bad:
The user could hover over a menu, then choose one of those “sub sections”. They visit the page, and spend some time there. The next day, they come back to the same website, and they’re interested in looking at the same page they visited. Now, they cannot find a link to that page, because they’ve forgotten that there is a “drop down menu” under one of the main links. Now they have to go through the same steps they went through the first time they visited the site, thus “accidentally” rediscovering the drop down menu.
I probably should have mentioned this above example in the article, but I felt it was a little too lenghy to explain, and I didn’t think it was necessary. Maybe I was wrong.
Hope that helps.
- 38September 7th, 2009 10:57 pm
Good one…really worth…keep rocking SM….thnaks
- 39September 8th, 2009 12:52 am
This article was really superficial.
Can’t fallow the argument about the so called “surprise-dropdowns”. Is an user really scared to death when dropdowns are showing up? BTW most clients have such a long wording/navigation structure for their projects that horizontal menues aren’t the way to go.I’m expecting better articles from smashingmagazine :P
- 40September 8th, 2009 12:55 am
Good collection of webwepags.
- 41September 8th, 2009 12:56 am
Good collection of web pages.
- 42September 8th, 2009 4:36 am
Thanks for including us (QN5 Music) in your list! Always a nice surprise to see a site I’ve worked on get mentioned on Smashing Mag. Now let me go make sure our server is in working order… ;)
- 43September 8th, 2009 8:01 am
Great example, I post some time ago 30 Beautiful Menu Examples in my blog!
- 44September 8th, 2009 8:22 am
What about the “Tabbed-Breadcrumb” horizontal navigation implementation? It’s unique, and cool, but I’ve yet to find a pre-built version for my own use and haven’t had a chance to code my own up yet.
There’s a write-up about it here: http://www.teehanlax.com/blog/?p=211
- 45September 8th, 2009 7:29 pm
Nice collection. Thanks for sharing!
- 46September 8th, 2009 11:25 pm
nice!!!
- 47September 9th, 2009 1:18 am
while i believe this is a good collection i think the art of navigation shows itself not on the homepage but on the second and third level. whereas a great navigational design works on the homepage, how do you adapt that once you get into the site itself? the more you offer and categorize, the more complicated this task becomes. as has been said in one comment in favor of horizontal navigation: screens tend to become wider, nor necessarily higher. However, when designing a complex, categorized navigation horizontally, you do not want to give up too much of that precious height. after all you still want some space to display your content/products.
to sum up: i would like a follow up on how horizontal navigation is working once you get deeper into the site’s hirarchy. - 48September 9th, 2009 4:14 am
Louis : “surprise” menus are bad because users revisting the site might forget about them? what?
- 49September 10th, 2009 1:29 pm
J Taylor Design’s navigation is nice but we updated a similar type of navigation because we got feedback that some users did not actually know the top level was clickable because there was no visual feedback outside of the cursor changing to a hand on those links. The secondary links underline when hovered over so we decided to offer the same visual feedback on the top level links.
- 50September 12th, 2009 9:43 am
This is very good collection to improve our own navigation system by following these great examples. Thanks for sharing :)
- 51September 14th, 2009 3:44 am
@Josh:
Yes, that’s correct. How would they remember there was a dropdown menu there, if there is no indication of it? Of course, some might disagree. But keep in mind that even a split-second of negative thinking on a user’s part will harm their experience on a site. I would personally rather not take that chance. How hard is it to add a triangle? :)
- 52September 14th, 2009 7:03 am
nice tips, I’ld add that you should use tabs (popular trend) only when it’s appropriate. which means when it’s the navigation of a same section but on sublevels. the selected tab must be recognizable from the others and match with the current section.
Hope it helps. - 53September 14th, 2009 8:42 am
.mainli:hover li {
display: block
}
.mainli:hover {
background: gray
}Main Tab
Sub
SubMain Tab
Main Tab
most of sites that make mistake about drop down menu using only first of css codes above. and they set sub element and main tab as different elements. sub element must be inside of its parent. Basic drop-down structure must be like this example. - 54September 14th, 2009 11:31 pm
@Matt Rolf:
Yes, you’re correct about what that article on CNN’s nav change discusses, however, I was pointing out that they recognized the limitations of vertical navigation, which is why they switched. I probably should have linked the words “switching from vertical to horizontal” rather than “discovered those limitations”, which would have been more accurate from an anchor text perspective.
- 55September 21st, 2009 10:32 am
I love the article except for the issue of “surprise menus.” Users are not as surprised by surprise menus as you may think. Users have come to accept that navigation menus have an interactive quality to them. Regardless of whether or not there is a carrot or arrow informing us that there is “more” to the link is redundant.
A User will become more frustrated with a menu item that does nothing at all than with a menu that actually does what they have been taught to expect.
Aesthetically speaking, I DO believe that a carrot or arrow is useful to the navigation but it is not necessary.
I am speaking strictly with regards to the main nav.
- 56September 29th, 2009 12:07 pm
Thanks for sharing all these great examples!
I myself as a designer have always preferred horizontal navigation to vertical, but each has its purpose. I really like the idea of split navigation, putting the secondary links into a vertical column on the left hand side.
- 57October 7th, 2009 12:58 am
Hi. As the front end developer for Deliciouslyorkshire can I add a little weight to the reasoning behind the top tier tabbed navigation. The “About”, “Home” and “News and Events” tabs, while they may seem secondary, it was very important for users to find these sections, fast. Part of the brief dictated that—users struggled to find information about Deliciouslyorkshire and their events and related stories. “Where to find/buy/stay” and “recipes” are just as important and were given the same hierarchical value in site planning.
Secondary and tertiary links are clear, using a sub navigation and lower prominence links in the header section.
- 58October 20th, 2009 4:14 am
@Liam
Thanks for that note. You’ll notice that the article did state that the developer of the site may have had compelling reasons for designing it that way. It was more of a case study, and not necessarily assuming bad practice on your part.
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