How To Successfully Educate Your Clients On Web Development
If you are running a design agency, your job is very likely to combine business development, graphic design, technology and user experience design: a basketful of very different fields. When dealing with clients, one faces the challenge of clearly and effectively communicating the goals and results of the work done in these areas. In this post, we’ll provide you with some ideas on sharing information and knowledge with developers and clients — a couple of tips and tricks we’ve learned from our own experience.

As designers, our core purpose is to solve business challenges for our clients. No, I haven’t forgotten you Mac-loving, single-mouse-button-fanatic designers. A business solution includes an application platform, solid data design and a page design that makes the UI and website approachable and easy to use (for converting, transacting, clicking on a monkey’s butt, etc.). Your daily challenge, then, is to deliver the project on time while satisfying the client’s visual, business and aesthetic requirements.
You’re Not As Smart As You Think… But Google Is
I like to think that I’m always right (boy, would my wife have something to say about that), and that becomes tricky when communicating with clients. As a professional, I am able to detect patterns, usability issues, trends in the industry and other important issues that the client might not be aware of. On the other hand, I’m a complete idiot when it comes to semi-conductor temperature tolerances, furniture for pre-school institutions and the importance of steel spikes in lederhosen. My client, on the other hand, may be an Encyclopedia Britannica on every single one of those topics. What I’m trying to say is that you have to remember that you’re an expert only on your own field and that you should prick up your ears when the client tells you something.

Negotiating For A Win-Win Result
So, as you tread your pitiable pixel-pushing existence, you should be aware of things that might give your sorry designer self an advantage in negotiating those sticking points in projects. Have you ever had a client who wanted a larger logo on their website? Maybe a logo done in Flash, with a spinning earth and sparkles!? All valid requirements, I’m sure; and so during that meeting, as you slowly reached for the pencil to stab your quads under the table, you should have realized that business owners love their brands and are emotionally attached to them. You should have based your response, then, on a composite of research-based facts (best presented as a link to a reputable source on the Web) — an explanation that is specific to their business.

Client: “I really want a bigger logo. I feel like it’s getting lost in the website.”
You: “I understand why your brand is important to you. I have research here based on the top 500 retailers on the Internet and their logo sizes. The research indicates that the logo should take up less space than or be similar in size to the call-to-action element, or be one-fourth of the website’s width at most. In our case, that ‘View products’ link should be the focal point of the website.
Damage Control: Sometimes Bending Over Is Part Of The Job
A successful negotiator (and you are a negotiator — perhaps not a gun-toting, hostage-holding Samuel L. Jackson, but a negotiator nonetheless) delivers a solution that makes both parties win. Your client is happy that their demands were met by their responsive and well-informed developer, and you’re happy because you didn’t have to waste time in meetings. Hopefully, after you’ve demonstrated the facts and your reasoning for keeping the logo at the same size, the client will change their mind and leave you basking in the glory of being right and not having to go back for a fix. In case they don’t, you still might not have to increase the size; perhaps you could reassess your use of white space or employ other visual trickery of that devilishly sexy design field.
Position Of Authority: Your Voice Must Be Heard
As I mentioned, you do wield some authority in this line of work, but your client does also in their business. I recommend that for every project, you establish attainable and clearly defined goals, goals that will be measured by the website’s performance and enforced by strict deadlines. If you or your client doesn’t meet certain goals or deliverables by the deadlines, you could still launch the website if all critical items are completed, and then clear up the remaining items once the website is live. This strategy is used by major tech companies such as Google and accomplishes several important things:
- Forces you to deliver on time;
- Focuses you on date-based deliverables, which makes the client easier to educate on “sticky” issues;
- Forces the client to deliver content, stock photos and their ideas to you on time, because any missing features would have to be paid for on an hourly consulting basis.
As you work towards these goals, know that at a certain point your opinion and decisions are critical to the project’s success. There’s no backing down or hiding your tail between your legs. Sometimes you cannot negotiate, and the client must understand that they are paying you for a reason: because you know your stuff!

Keep in mind that your client also has authority and knowledge that might not be apparent to you during negotiations. For example:
Client: We want IE6 support through the website. The website will have a lot of JavaScript, dynamic elements, PNG graphics, etc.
You: [Jotting down a reminder to send hate mail to the IE6 team at Microsoft,] IE6 is actually an outdated browser that has security flaws, a very poor rendering engine and very few users out there. I recommend we don’t accommodate it (even Mailchimp doesn’t!), and we tell those suckers to go to hell.
Client: Did I mention that we service a large restaurant industry, and a lot of the terminals in restaurants still run Windows XP with IE6?
You: [Updates reminder to hunt down IE6's creators.]

At the end of the day you are at the mercy of the client, and you need to meet all of their requirements. But you also have to recognize your value and be able to demonstrate it through examples, research and logical arguments. Be responsive: ask a lot of questions in order to understand the client’s motivation. I endorse client education, but not to the point of losing the client and project. Remember that your client is a resource to you, and good communication will enable both of you to complete the project in time to watch the men’s figure-skating competition.
(al)


Conflock
April 23rd, 2010 3:27 amThat’s exactly what we’re dealing with every day. Funny post!
Thomas Strobl
April 25th, 2010 7:18 amplain said, really easy and fluent to read! I enjoyed it very much!
Daniela
April 23rd, 2010 3:38 amHey, this post was very nicely written. I enjoyed it.
I suggest you make a part 2 of it, because it feels like there is more to be said.
xx
Mohawk Kellye
April 23rd, 2010 6:38 amI agree.
KD
April 27th, 2010 3:16 pmI second that!
Marco Monteiro
April 23rd, 2010 9:24 ami totally agree with that! part two please :)
Tai
April 24th, 2010 8:26 amFantastic article! The fans scream “you rock, encore!”
(Part 2 is a good idea :)
Nicole Bauer
April 23rd, 2010 3:40 amI will use that graphic to argue about the logo size next time. It’s a good argument. Haha…
Great tips, thank you!
murray
April 23rd, 2010 7:18 amI can’t read the normal sized logo – I think I’m the “problems at childhood logo man…” :o/
Meniro
April 23rd, 2010 3:43 amGreat post!
I hope developers start to simply stick to web standards and then charge extra for supporting “non-standard” browsers like IE6.
CSS Browser Selector takes a bit of the pain away:
http://rafael.adm.br/css_browser_selector/
Tai
April 24th, 2010 8:28 amIE6 support is an extra feature and is treated likewise.
Arnoud ten Hoedt
April 26th, 2010 8:51 pmA nice approach for IE6 hell is to sell your client an additional PDA device targeting, fluid, accessibility focussed template, and re-route IE6 to that version.
Tiziano Pojer
April 23rd, 2010 3:46 amReally nice post , great tips !
fg
April 23rd, 2010 3:50 amI loved the logo-size chart.
I will definitely use it…
Oliver
April 23rd, 2010 4:05 amHaha funny :)
But its the truth so :o
adelacreative
April 23rd, 2010 4:08 amGreat article, I agree that most clients need to be made aware of certain technical issues even before starting the project, like screen resolution, cross-browser testing, etc
PS – small misspelling in the first graphic ;)
Steve Jones
April 23rd, 2010 4:14 amGood post – except in the first graphic. Good database design is pure engineering; it belongs on the left side. As you can tell, I’m a humorless software engineer.
Oh, and you might check with your contact at monkeybuttclicker.com – their server is down.
hollsk
April 23rd, 2010 10:19 amWord, homefry. I do database design as well and Mr Mac and his stereotypical compatriots are woefully inadequate for these kind of technicalities.
Anyway, I work with a lot of blue chip and finance corps building their web apps and those guys in suits tend to prefer to deal with other guys in suits. I’m happy to look and sound like Mr PC if it makes my clients comfortable.
Ben Jamieson
April 23rd, 2010 4:37 amYou missed the vital point that web developers need to know how to spell, and should *never* spell Kryptonite two differing ways… in the SAME graphic!
: )
Jason
April 23rd, 2010 4:50 amAt least he spelled Web Developer right twice in the SAME graphic.
shin
April 23rd, 2010 4:46 amhilarious and irony at the same time… luv it
Lokesh a.k.a Lucky
April 23rd, 2010 4:47 amSuperman cartoon concept is too good !… love the concept
OlgaRud
April 23rd, 2010 4:57 amThe article is just great very nice and the comments to images are brilliant too! as for the K/Cryptonite… Hehe)))…Just give it a break guys…you may also say it did not only make me laugh but proud about myself too ‘cos I’ve noticed that small mistake)))))
darwin Santos
April 23rd, 2010 4:57 amAwesome article. The superman part is hilarious, we need a part 2 for this article.
Lauren
April 23rd, 2010 5:07 amThis is the BEST article I’ve read in a long time. Thank you Aurimas & Smashing!!
^__^
Strawberrysoup
April 23rd, 2010 5:18 amGreat article and loving the humour – totally agree with the IE6 effects on our developers!
Storm
April 23rd, 2010 5:28 amBrilliant Read!
Bertrand
April 23rd, 2010 5:37 amGreat and funny article. Most of the times, theses are the kind of things you wish you were told in classes… but only experience can make you a master at “managing clients”! Ah! Life…
Niels Matthijs
April 23rd, 2010 5:50 amDon’t agree with that last image. I think it’s really the other way around. Making things work on FF3.6/Safari/Opera/Chrome is easy, but if I can make it look just as nice in IE6 I feel like a regular superman :p
Faissal
April 27th, 2010 11:05 pmYou didn’t get it: The “Superman” is how you feel handling things or let’s say how you enter the client meeting. That is what the (“Superman”) image represents more: self-confidence, security, power and strength.
And actually most feel same, when the keyword “IE6″ is mentioned: weaker…
David
April 23rd, 2010 5:53 amWell, do smashing ever do any content check? Just take a look at their company blog -http://blog.devbridge.com/
This article has been published earlier before and this is a duplicate content!
Why not just tweet the article if you like it? Rather than buy it?
PS: The writer don’t even bother to rewrite the article.
Sid
April 23rd, 2010 5:57 amIE 6 sucks big time so does 7,8, maybe 9 too .. :(
Daniel Groves [http://daniel-groves.co.uk]
April 23rd, 2010 6:02 amNice port, you had me laughing a couple of times their, especially with that last graphic about IE6.
Some nice knowledge in their as well, this is one thing everyone should keep remembering, the client won’t change their view unless they have a reason to, so they will need educating.
Khainestar
April 23rd, 2010 6:07 amI always dread the words “we have hired a consultant to design the site”. As this means you get to be a code monkey.
Celwin Frenzen
April 23rd, 2010 6:12 amThis is amazing! Nicely written and very well illustrated :-D especially the Logo-Size chart!
Alexandre
April 23rd, 2010 6:17 amFunny, but it’s a true story…
Corey Ballou
April 23rd, 2010 6:17 amI found the brand confidence graph to be quite hilarious (yet true). “Speak softly and carry a big stick” kind of mentality.
Betty
April 23rd, 2010 6:20 amHAHA! Your eloquence is side-splitting… but despite all the humor, I did find the conversation between client and designer right under MonkeyButtClicker’s web page very useful. Oftentimes I understand the theory behind approaches, just I’m not sure how to execute them. Great way to sound professional and exert your “you-better-not-question-me-or-i’ll-eat-you” authority.
Kelly Kuehneman
April 23rd, 2010 6:31 amSuper article!! Hit the nail right on the head. Loved the supporting imagery :)
Deoxys
April 23rd, 2010 6:31 amMicrosoft should stop making browsers and the usage of IE should be prohibited by law :)
Malachainn
April 23rd, 2010 8:29 amAmen!
Chris M.
April 23rd, 2010 6:38 am“But you also have to recognize your value and be able to demonstrate it through examples, research and logical arguments.”
At 2wtx consulting (http://web.2wtx.com) we use this advice at all times. In our experience, 98% of the time, customers will accept our recommendation. The other 2% fits your example “we service a large restaurant industry, and a lot of the terminals in restaurants still run Windows XP with IE6″ — sometimes the customer forgets to tell us important pieces of information like this when we first interview them…
Mohawk Kellye
April 23rd, 2010 6:38 amJesus H. Christ! I needed this article like a month ago or even before that, but very specifically with my most recent client’s project. Welp, better late than never. And I appreciate the humor. Next time some client insists on using a massive logo, I’m going to email them that diagram. =)
ethnicomm
April 23rd, 2010 6:50 amThat LOGO insight is bang on! Why do people want to allocate so much real estate to something that isn’t a call to action?
Joseph Hinson
April 23rd, 2010 6:57 am“Great Post” is an understatement.
I’ve found, explaining why you’re doing what you’re doing certainly helps the client understand what’s going on. And sometimes, you have to push back. “Mr. X, I strongly suggest against using spinning guitars on your website.”
lush
April 23rd, 2010 7:05 amhey this is great! very useful :)
thanks!
Adrian
April 23rd, 2010 7:16 amA very eloquent article and quite humorous. I feel like there is a bit more to be said though.
Üzeyir ÖZKOL
April 23rd, 2010 7:21 amSuperman cartoon concept is too good !… love the concept
K. Arda KOS
April 23rd, 2010 7:30 amhilarious and irony at the same time :))
Alex
April 23rd, 2010 7:33 amsmashing has been so bland lately, it was nice to see a well written article with humor in it!
Elliott
April 23rd, 2010 7:39 amNice article… so true.
JZ
April 23rd, 2010 7:45 amAfter a spending a week struggling with IE6 compatibility issues, I can definitely feel the effects of the kryptonite. Need to construct lead shielding on my monitors to reduce the affect. Great article!
Laura Prpich
April 23rd, 2010 8:05 amvery well written, i will take some of that dialogue into account next time i am in that situation and can’t find the words to put it ‘poliety’.
James Cready
April 23rd, 2010 8:07 am> No, I haven’t forgotten you Mac-loving, single-mouse-button-fanatic designers.
Have you used a Mac in the last ten years? I don’t think there’s been a Mac mouse like that since OSX 10 first got released.
Muhammad
April 23rd, 2010 8:13 amyes the major problem of web is IE, of course version 6 but version 7 and 8 also have a many problem. but the way is going on. with IE. :(
google also try to show foolish user that WHAT IS THE BROWSER. http://www.whatbrowser.org/en/
Yvonne
April 23rd, 2010 8:15 amThanks to Apple, I have an excuse to tell my clients to rethink their Flash requests.
Laura Stafford
April 23rd, 2010 8:37 amGreat article. Classic example of what you have to deal with when you deal with real people running successful businesses, but who need to fix their web presence. Negotiating with people who don’t necessarily understand the consequences of a website that isn’t optimized can be a challenge. Always very interesting, though.
Gabriel Baciu
April 23rd, 2010 8:39 amHey dude, I’ve never commented on Smashing before, but this is really funny and interesting article. I hope that there is more to come.
Luis
April 23rd, 2010 8:46 amGreat post, deserves a second part
Alpesh Darji
April 23rd, 2010 9:00 amAwsome and funny too !! Liked the illustration of superman …
Jairus
April 23rd, 2010 9:10 amGreat article! Can’t someone tell the FCC to make IE6 illegal or something?
alan Cheung
April 23rd, 2010 9:28 amHow funny, just got yet another client ask to enlarge their logo size.
Next time, I send them 10 well branded company’s website to demonstrate that the size of the logo has to be normal. If they find just one proper branded company’s website has a logo larger than what I decided to use, I will compromise. Otherwise, they should listen.
Stephan
April 23rd, 2010 9:38 amExcellent article! I especially like the logo chart!
Lon
April 23rd, 2010 9:42 amre-used your superman image in a blog post and linked it to the article here. Hope you don’t mind. Thanks. Here’s the link: http://wp.me/pMUrU-i0.
Aurimas
April 23rd, 2010 10:48 amHey guys and gals! Very happy you guys like it. :)
A couple of responses that I feel are needed:
1) James Cready- I know macs have 2 buttons these days. I <3 the company as they make phenomenal hardware… but you fanbois are too easy to mess with.
2) Part 2 you say? Well, perhaps. This topic is as inexhaustible as the quantity of jokes that George Lopez has stolen.
3) Whoever bought monkeybuttclicker.com – I bow to you, good sir. :)))) We're rolling around on the floor here. Well done, well done indeed.
4) For the humorless captain obvious who found the article on our website – well DUH! I write because I like to share what I've learned. I share via all available outlets and Smashing is not paying me for it. Seeing as there's not that many visitors to a development companies site – the next logic step is to volunteer my content to popular sites.
5) Kryptonite / CryptoNITE / ChRYPTonight – whatever. I'm a bit more X-MEN and a little bit less Super.
6) Steve Jones – yeah, sorry, the database design stuff just kinda fell in the wrong spot.
Thanks for reading!
altrugon
April 23rd, 2010 11:34 amOMG the article is brilliant and the CryptoIE6 cartoon fantastic :D
Thanks for making me laugh of my daily IE browser family nightmares.
Sudeep Bhaumick
April 23rd, 2010 11:39 amThe points of authority concept is interesting but am not sure how many small time operators can pull off something like that…
On a separate note, the ie6 vs web developer relationship cartoon is eerily accurate :p
Anonymous
April 23rd, 2010 11:45 amAhhh, the “make the logo bigger” feedback and IE6. Just when you think you’ve won, it starts all over again with some other ahole. lol, great article.
Yaritsa Arenas
April 23rd, 2010 11:49 amLove the brand confidence to logo size chart!
Sam
April 23rd, 2010 11:53 amI really have an urge to click that Monkey’s Butt. Is that weird?
Too bad that Mr. PC guy can’t spell “solutions”.
(I am a Twitter feed subscriber, but my goodness, there’s like a Tweet every 10 minutes. I can’t keep track.)
Kharismatic
April 23rd, 2010 12:10 pmI enjoyed this article to the fullest! Well-written and very funny!!
Chris Ames
April 23rd, 2010 1:18 pmThank you, now i can send this to people without explaining myself
Jooleeo
April 23rd, 2010 2:14 pmI dont wanna look like any of those guys!
http://media.smashingmagazine.com/cdn_smash/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/slide11.jpg
lol
nice post!
Ray
April 23rd, 2010 2:22 pmNo offense, but this article seems kinda childish. There’s no real acumen to gather from this information. It’s a bit condescending and shallow.
Chris K
April 23rd, 2010 2:34 pmI’m not all that impressed, sorry. I didn’t enjoy the insinuation that we all want to be the ‘mac guy’. I’d rather perfect my craft than be inept and look like a hipster.
(I agree with Ray in the post above)
Aurimas
April 23rd, 2010 3:22 pm@Ray – different audiences will read different things from the same message. Most of the commenter seem to have been in situations I have written about, so I think there’s value in discussing possible approaches to those situations.
Nick Burd
April 23rd, 2010 3:28 pmThis made me laugh.. Great post, very informative.
StephenMartin
April 23rd, 2010 4:14 pmA good article, but I find some of your word choices unprofessional and immature.
Hermitbiker
April 23rd, 2010 6:07 pmA very informative article with loads of great inspiration and guidelines to pay attention to in your quest, thank you Aurimas Adomavicius for authoring this post and I thank “SmashingMagazine” for showcasing it here !! Besides, this is a great blog for learning and inspiration for all of us “newpeople” who are only in the dream stage of creating our own “real” blog !!
Gabe Diaz
April 23rd, 2010 8:00 pmI could’ve sworn I was experiencing Déjà vu because I remember reading this article. Glad to see it here on Smashing, enjoyed reading both times around!
Dave Goff
April 23rd, 2010 8:34 pmThere are a lot of truths here for SEO work as well. Managing expectations ahead of time is crucial.
metagora
April 23rd, 2010 9:25 pmIE 6 = creative killer :D
Rowela Alzona
April 23rd, 2010 10:47 pmI enjoyed reading it thank you for sharing and for that person who shared this link to me…. i will also share this to my page….. =)
Tom Arnfeld
April 23rd, 2010 11:50 pmFunny and great post! One of my favourite!
eko
April 24th, 2010 12:30 amlast ilustrattion … i like
oOt GRINDLAMA
April 24th, 2010 1:04 ami like this article, its funny and i still in this situation when meet my client, especially talk about ie6 :) …thx for the article!
J Wilkinson
April 24th, 2010 4:16 amGood job, I read the whole piece. I would like to add a few things. 1) I have found it very helpful to keep my designs very flexible and show my clients many iterations as we move along in the process. This gives them plenty of opportunities to share their thoughts and offer “tweaks”. These tweaks are usually easy concessions for me to make and the client feels as though they’ve steered the project all along.
2) When I present my first real draft to a client, I no longer send an email with a link and “look forward to hearing your thoughts.” I now withhold the design until we are able to meet and discuss it together. Clients like to know that I didn’t just wing it. This formal presentation gives me a great opportunity to explain the choices I made. I find that I make far fewer revisions to my designs since doing this.
Good article and comments. Thanks everyone!
Cybertoos
April 24th, 2010 4:21 amNice article,but not covering all aspects.As said “The Logo Problem” & “IE6″(as itself) are just two examples of many problems we`r facing in working with such clients.It`s very useful even for a professional with many years of experience to hear other`s experiments.
Tom Hermans
April 24th, 2010 6:53 amThe most ridiculous is this= “Client: We want IE6 support through the website. The website will have a lot of JavaScript, dynamic elements, PNG graphics, etc.”
I NEVER came across clients who actually said ‘this’, no-one, or knew what they wanted.
Most of the time they surf the net for examples, then to pick out the bad examples and ask us to do “something of that genre”..
+ They don’t need a photographer, they already have crappy pictures and body copy will be sent, will be sent, will be sent…
eXcellent Vivek
April 24th, 2010 6:54 amHi man you written it well, but as others said it needs more key strokes should be in next part carry it on and give us more ideas on the topic.
Craig Leontowicz
April 24th, 2010 11:34 amReally helpful article. Thanks.
Dhruv Patel
April 24th, 2010 12:22 pmtrue and funny lol.. specially when you are a project manager and trying to manage these developers and/or trying to get a group of developers in a discussion with the client!
Amber Weinberg
April 24th, 2010 1:05 pmI’ve been lucky enough to not have to accomodate IE6 since I dropped it about 2-3 months ago. I must say, I’m MUCH happier as a result. Most of my sites look perfect in IE7 the first time, so I no longer need to spend more than a few minutes browser testing :D
Helge-Kristoffer Wang
April 24th, 2010 2:24 pmIE6 is an additional feature to my designs, and will be extra charged. Creating hacks (good hacks) takes time.
I really enjoyed reading this article, and it gave me some laughs. Good, but still needs a part two.. feels like we are missing something.. Again, good reading! Thanks! :-)
Beni
April 24th, 2010 11:13 pmSo, did any of you guys/gals have a success stories how to convince your client to not use IE6 compability? Because I have this stupid boss who always accommodate this IE6 user.
hollsk
April 25th, 2010 4:36 amYour boss is almost certainly right to do so, but there are ways you can persuade him / her. Have them take a look at Andy Clarke’s stuff about progressive enhancement: http://forabeautifulweb.com/blog/about/five_css_design_browser_differences_i_can_live_with/
This is well-written stuff and it illustrates why it’s ok to let IE6 have something less of a full experience so long as everything is actually functional and doesn’t look horrible.
You may also want to look at the metrics for what your clients are actually using and then use those metrics as leverage – if you don’t collect this data or you’re not sure it’s a useful statical analysis, then try a larger data-collection pool, for instance from NetApps’ http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=2 regular analysis (look in the left hand sidebar for browser reports). According to this, IE6 still has an 18% market share, which is not to be sniffed at. It shouldn’t be ignored, but there’s no real need to make designs look the same for it as they do in other browsers.
NB: One thing that you really shouldn’t do is use the W3C Schools browser market share stats or indeed any data collated by web design / development sites unless they are specifically collecting data from normal people in the wild. W3C Schools stats keep being trotted out by the web development community as a sign that IE is finally dying, but they’re not good statistics for analysing any user group other than the web development community itself.
Good luck!
tolulope
April 25th, 2010 5:29 amdealing with a client’s ignorance can sometimes be a daunting task!
Drake
April 25th, 2010 7:48 amIE6 has been one of the biggest issue to educate users about and web developers and designers are literally cracking their heads open for testing for these browsers… and frankly speaking… IE7 is starting to transform into the new IE6 if we’re not careful with browser compatibility testing.
Jinjaninja
April 25th, 2010 3:10 pmThis made me laugh soooooooo much. Currently we’re banging our heads on a concrete wall with a particular client whose brief is quite frankly impossible. It’s very reassuring to know that the rest of the planet has to deal with the same sort of muppetry. However, I’d much prefer clients to do some proactive learning and eventually understand that the web is not the little brother to print, tv and direct mail.
Hali
April 25th, 2010 4:17 pmhaha!! I love it!! Will be showing this to my bosses tomorrow morning! Great work!
MARK
April 25th, 2010 5:26 pmJUVENILE writing style, as if written by a 12 yr old.
didnt get the IE6 foolishness either. IE6 is a known quantity completely for the last 5 yrs, ff, opera and safari on the other hand have a lot of little quirks that just arent documented as well as ie’s have been…meh..
waste of time this article was.
retiisi
April 25th, 2010 9:38 pmGood Article, brings back some trust to SM, maybe I will continue reading this site afterall.
MegaC
April 25th, 2010 10:33 pmI agree with some posts…
I agree that IE6 is outdated and design incompetent, it is still the norm. Our clients may even be well web educated, but their customers are not. How do we tackle this IE6 problem, and make our clients happy?
Where is your data that shows what size a logo should be? Should I really be following your advice or can you back up your assertions with concrete evidence? I have yet to see a “rant article” that does nothing but complain, and not follow up with supporting references that can be applied real world. Data Data Data
While I agree that our voice should be heard, really we are only satisfying our own desires here. The client is wrong, but I have no evidence that I can produce from a reputable source to affirm my position.
Maria
April 26th, 2010 2:29 amExcellent post. Thanks.
Mark
April 26th, 2010 3:23 amGreat article, thanks for sharing
gr8pixel
April 26th, 2010 3:47 amexcellent post! just wondering why can’t they use an alert to let the users know how to update their IE6… hmm..
mike
April 26th, 2010 5:43 amGreat article. FYI – We have a Fortune 500 client, 18k employees and their “official” company browser is still ie6! They have dozens of apps and portals that are designed for ie6. It’s a huge undertaking for them(and us) to upgrade and will not happen until next year! :(
Vykintas
April 26th, 2010 7:43 amAčiū, labai įdomus straipsnis!
Jens Grochtdreis
April 26th, 2010 9:30 amThe Superman/Kryptonite image is nice but it is totally wrong. Green Kryptonite doesn’t change Superman into a normal person, it kills him. IE6 is really a pita (pain in the ass) but it doesn’t kill you and me.
miekun
April 26th, 2010 10:46 amHey, SUPERMAN doesn’t know how to use the internet,
if he does….
he doesn’t need to fly around
amidude
April 26th, 2010 11:33 ammonkeybuttclicker.com is available!!! ROTFLMAO!!
aShocka
April 26th, 2010 12:40 pmHaha, nice funny post about serious things :) keep up!
Charles Southey
April 26th, 2010 12:52 pmI rarely find articles that I read the whole way through. Great post and particularly relevant to project managers.