How WordPress Took The CMS Crown From Drupal And Joomla

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According to W3Techs1, almost 55% of the 1 million most visited websites that are run on a content management system (CMS) are run on WordPress. WordPress is a darn fine CMS and is stable and easy to use, but so are Joomla and Drupal. So, why does WordPress have the lion’s share of the top 1 million websites?

This article does not set out to prove that one CMS is “better” than another. WordPress, Joomla, Drupal and dozens of other platforms are mature, stable, great CMS’ that can do a fantastic job in most cases.

Market Share

As a point of reference, at Gravity Switch, about 50% of our projects are in Drupal and about 35% in WordPress; the rest are in other CMS’ or written by hand in PHP or built on a framework such as CakePHP, Django or Ruby. Some of you might be squirming in your seats asking, “But why don’t you just use [insert your CMS of choice]?” The answer is simple: blind luck.

Market share of top 1 million websites2
Breakdown of websites with a clearly identifiable CMS, according to W3Tech’s survey of the top 1 million domains.

A couple of our top clients asked us to use Drupal or WordPress (based on their own technical requirements or preferences), so right now we have more in-house experience with WordPress and Drupal. Our job is to be flexible and to help our clients do their jobs better. While we’re able to guide the folks who don’t have a preference, our job is not to evangelize one technology over another.

So, rather than attempt to convince you that one CMS is best, I’ll share some data that compares WordPress to Drupal and Joomla in order to understand how and why WordPress got the crown.

Name Recognition

When I want to understand how popular something is, one of the first places I go to is Google Trends. Based on WordPress’ market share, I expected to find that it is searched for about five times as often as Joomla and about nine times as often as Drupal.

What I found was quite different:

Graph of global searches for CMS'
Global searches3, as shown by Google Trends.

It turns out that, internationally, Joomla is almost as well known as WordPress, and Drupal is searched for about a quarter as often.

This data suggests that:

  1. Out of the top three CMS’ out there (WordPress, Joomla and Drupal), people are choosing WordPress more often.
  2. People are choosing WordPress without searching for it.

Where WordPress Excels

Let’s be honest. It probably doesn’t matter which of the top 20 CMS’ you choose. (Curious what they are? W3Techs lists them.4) They’re all reasonably secure, stable and easy to maintain. While WordPress might have been “just blogging software” for a time and didn’t have the features needed to be a true CMS, those days are gone. Anyone who says otherwise is trolling or living in the past.

In fact, the “SxSW Web Content Management System Showdown5” a couple of years back clearly showed WordPress, Joomla and Drupal all to be powerful and expandable systems.

So, what does WordPress do differently than Joomla, Drupal and others?

1. Focus

Unlike Joomla and Drupal, which were designed as proper CMS’, WordPress was designed to solve a problem. Also, because WordPress had a clear target audience (bloggers), its developers were able to build a successful business at WordPress.com pretty much from day one.

The story of how WordPress established itself is simple: bloggers had problems, and WordPress provided services to fix those problems.

By contrast, Drupal and Joomla tried to be “everything a geek might need”. Alas, capitalism always wins. Having clearly defined uses is more effective than working in the abstract.

2. Ease of Use

Let’s face it: WordPress is the easiest CMS for a non-techie to install and set up, and the easiest to use out of the gate. That counts for a lot.

Anyone can set up a blog on WordPress.com and be up and running in a few hours. It’s easy enough that a 60-year-old IT employee can set up a company CMS without losing face for not being up to date on the newest technology. It’s easy enough that a hobbyist can start their own website or blog in a weekend. It’s easy enough that an old-school marketing firm can set up a website in house and, just as importantly, understand how to use it without reading pages of manuals.

WordPress is committed to serving non-technical users who want to communicate easily and effectively. So, its appeal makes sense when you consider that people who go into communications fields (including sales and marketing) tend not to be introverted technologists.

And because of its corporate ties, WordPress never had the luxury of being able to tell its users to RTFM6, nor could it shrug and say, “It works for me.” Rather, the features of WordPress were driven by content people, not techies. Every feature had to be usable by bloggers, including non-technical ones.

Ease of use is an issue that both Joomla and Drupal are working on. But it doesn’t come naturally to them, evidenced by the slow progress they’re making and the fact that their ships are still being sailed by technologists. For example, Drupal still doesn’t even ship with a WYSIWYG editor. Unbelievable but true.

3. The Blog Factor

OK, I know that calling WordPress “blogging software” is taboo in the WordPress community. But before you hardcore aficionados get defensive about WordPress being “more than blogging software,” hear me out. The blog factor is a great strength that helped to establish WordPress as a CMS.

First, let’s admit that WordPress is great blogging software. Consider the following:

  • WordPress.com is the 18th most visited website in the world. Its tagline is “A better way to blog,” and it claims to have “355,355 bloggers.” Quite simply, a lot of bloggers use WordPress.
  • Of the new blog posts featured on WordPress.com’s home page, three out of eleven of the blogs run on their own domains, and one out of eleven (or 9%) is in the top 1 million websites, according to Alexia.

If we extrapolate this, we can say that approximately 9% of all WordPress.com blogs (or 34,000 blogs) are in the top 1 million websites.

Let’s put that into perspective.

According to W3Techs, 2.7% (27,000) of the 1 million most visited websites in the world run Joomla, and 1.7% (17,000 websites) run Drupal. That means that almost as many popular bloggers use WordPress.com-hosted websites as use Drupal and Joomla combined.

This doesn’t include people who have a custom installation of WordPress, only those with WordPress.com accounts!

Let’s slice that number differently. The graphs below show how many WordPress, Drupal and Joomla websites are dedicated blogs or news websites, compared to being straight CMS websites.

Graph of the percentage of most popular websites on WordPress
Percentage of most popular websites run on WordPress7, Drupal8 and Joomla9 that are blogs or news-related.

Think about it. If the content of a website determines its popularity, then websites that offer news or blog posts will make up a sizeable percentage of the top million websites. A blogger or news provider understands by nature that content is more important than technology, so their ability to manipulate content will win out over “technical” features.

By plan or by luck, WordPress was designed from the ground up to meet the needs of the people who best understand how to communicate digitally.

It’s also worth noting that many of the top blogs in the world are technology-related. This is pretty relevant, because when websites such as SitePoint10, Six Revisions11 and Smashing Magazine run on WordPress, their readers (i.e. people who are interested in Web technology) are more likely to use it, too. This gives WordPress a huge amount of built-in credibility, as well as the potential for a statistically significant editorial bias.

WordPress market share
Estimated market share of blogs and websites running on WordPress.

Based on the above estimates, approximately 87,000 popular blogs or news websites run on WordPress, and 58,000 of the top million non-blog websites run on it, too.

To say, then, that WordPress is just blogging software is naive. Likewise, to say that WordPress is not blogging software is a bit disingenuous. The reality is that WordPress is a very successful blogging platform, as well as the world’s most successful CMS. Three to five years ago, this might not have been true, but today no one could dispute it.

Going strictly by numbers, WordPress is more of a blogging platform than Joomla or Drupal are straight CMS’ — meaning that more WordPress blogs are out there than there are Joomla and Drupal websites combined.

I mention this because some people insist that WordPress is not just blogging software. But for 87,000 popular websites, it is. Getting defensive about it would be silly. It would be like Apple saying that the iPhone isn’t a phone. It is a phone, even if it can be more than one.

And yet WordPress is also a CMS. Remember that 58,000 websites in the top 1 million are not blogs or news websites but are powered by WordPress. This means that, as a CMS, WordPress is 3.4 times as popular as Drupal, which means that anyone who says that WordPress isn’t a “real” CMS is smoking something strong.

WordPress’ pedigree as blogging software is a key part of its success as a CMS, for the following reasons:

  1. Blogging helped it focus on usability. Designing a product to do a particular task is always more effective. Drupal and Joomla have always wanted to be expandable. WordPress has always wanted to be used by people. Drupal doesn’t even include a default WYSIWYG editor, because… um, why? It’s not like doing it would be expensive or a lot of work.
  2. It had a clearer business model than the others, and 8.7% of the top communicators in the world could easily use it.
  3. The platform gained instant credibility as soon as websites such as Engadget and Smashing Magazine started using it.
  4. (And the point that is actually most important…) Bloggers know content. And the Web is all about content.

I’m not saying whether this was by luck or by plan, but if your goal 10 years ago was to create a technology that would be used on as many websites in the world as possible, and you approached it with the mindset that the Internet is about content, then you’d probably design the software around writers who are interested in the Internet.

In other words, bloggers.

If your goal 10 years ago was to create a Web technology that would “take over the world,” you might try to get your technology used by as many of the most influential technology-related websites as you could.

In other words, bloggers.

If your goal today was to build a technology based on the single most enduring theme in Web design of the past 15 years, that principle would probably be “Content is king.” Savvy PR and marketing firms the world over are trying to figure out how to make their clients premier sources of information.

In other words, bloggers.

All that being said, I can appreciate why the WordPress community is trying to put less emphasis on its blogging pedigree. But a stronger message about WordPress is out there, which is that other CMS’ focus on the system, while WordPress is all about the content.

Wrapping Up

What this all boils down to is that content management systems perform a job for us, which is to manage content. Drupal does this. Joomla does this. WordPress does this. Judging by the market share of CMS’, WordPress just happens to do this very well and more often. WordPress undeniably runs more websites out there than any other competitors on the block.

But I also meant it earlier when I said that, in most cases, any of the top three (or even the top 20) CMS’ out there will do the job admirably well. Picking one CMS over another is usually determined more by the IT department’s personal preference or by the core competency of the firm you are working with or by the platform of choice for peers in your industry.

This is a case study, and it shows that users will choose the tool that best solves their problem and gets the job done. In this case, users are developers and content creators, and when they need to get things done, they want the tool that is right for the job, that is easiest to use and that gives them the best experience.

(al)

Footnotes

  1. 1 http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/content_management/all
  2. 2 http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2011/11/29/wordpress-cms-crown-drupal-joomla/
  3. 3 http://www.google.com/trends?q=WordPress%2C+Joomla%2C+Drupal
  4. 4 http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/content_management/all
  5. 5 http://www.cmswire.com/cms/web-cms/sxsw-web-content-management-system-showdown-update-2-004124.php
  6. 6 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=RTFM
  7. 7 http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cm-wordpress/all/all
  8. 8 http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cm-drupal/all/all
  9. 9 http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cm-joomla/all/all
  10. 10 http://www.sitepoint.com/
  11. 11 http://www.sixrevisions.com

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Jason is an educator, business owner, and author. As one of the first dozen professors of website design in the country, his lectures and workshops dynamically cater to all user levels. His company, Gravity Switch, works with higher education and innovative businesses and is the top agile web development firm in New England. Jason keeps his carbon footprint down by bicycling to work year round. He's enjoying Twitter, so be sure to shout out if you have any impossible problems. He likes to be challenged.

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  1. 1

    Wpress is clearly the most popular CMS – but who are the users? If the ca. 9% Joomla users and 8% Drupal users are primarily businesses and the ca. 54% Wpress users are primarily private bloggers then that would be a good reason for new companies to look at Joomla or Drupal rather than Wpress. Suppose the average income of Wpress site owners is US$ 20,000.00 (largely private bloggers), the average income of Joomla site owners is US$ 2,000,000.00 (many more company owners) and the average income of Drupal site owners is US$ 2,500,000.00 (slightly larger companies). If you then multiply the average income of site owners by the numbers of sites on the market then the pie chart could look radically different to what we are currently seeing as an analysis of ‘market share’ …… “there are lies, damned lies and statistics” :)

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  2. 52

    WordPress is well known for being the least protected CMS.Furthermore,WP plug-ins and styles too come with their discuss of hackers and uses.

    while in Drupal Development, however, seems to be the most protected CMS of the three, with the least variety of hackers and uses, on an average.

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  3. 103

    Great Comparison!!! WordPress is best CMS if you want to learn and build website fast. Create blog more magic.

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  4. 154

    LOL! ROFL!

    Putting wordpress in a category with drupal “because there are lots of non-blog sites” is like “hey, there is an office app fopr the iphone, now it’s a desktop computer!”

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  5. 205

    The last time I am working with Joomla just because I want to make a ”random website” to see whats coming out.
    Wordpress is my favourite CMS that represents my idea’s very easily and I am preferring other people to use WP in stead of Joomla!

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  6. 256

    Too may Toyota on the road does not mean Mercedes is crummy!!!

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  7. 307

    YAY! I’m comment 100.

    WordPress is awesome. One big issue. Since it is so ubiquitous, it can get hacked easily – so locking it down or ‘hardening’ it is essential.

    IMHO (and after tooling with websites for 15 years)
    Drupal for 90% of small businesses is over kill. Most small business clients need store front content, i.e. pages such as: services, about us, contact us, mission statement, etc. They also need a way to get their news out which they can use the blogging feature for.

    For the other 10% of small businesses that need customization and total control for their engineers (or consultants), then there is Drupal.

    My 2 cents.

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  8. 358

    Joomla is powerfull and gets hacked a LOT less than WP. Not as geeky as drupal and not as bloggy as WP admin.

    Joomla can be set up to run for the client and not the geek.

    I have successfully created admin template overrides that make adding an article so easy that even a monkey could do it. No bloated wysywigs , and full CCK style structures where styles and content can NOT break. No short codes – nothing of the sort. Just point and click , choose media,docs,photos etc… wizard style steps. Just like the future of any GUI stuff is and will be.

    No matter what you do with word press or drupal you are still stuck with the most clunky and confusing interface for the end user ( The client )

    The reason wordpress is more popular is because so many designers grabbed a free blog and thought wow! look at all these themes. They will even use plugins to build a great interface like custom fields etc.. but then if they have to do something to the code they have no idea at all.

    Joomla allows you to over-ride the entire system and create very powerful and very lean coded front end and back-end custom templates to suit the client not the geek.

    WordPress is overrated by gen y web junkies. Drupal for geeks. Mambo / Joomla the original and best OpenSource cms in the world.

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  9. 409

    Centralpoint(through a company named Oxcyon) is the best CMS my employees and I have used thus far. We range from people with IT experience, techies and people with no IT training. Centralpoint has been compatible for us all. If I had to describe the program itself in one word, I’d say ‘modules’. There’s so many of them. It’s not a bad thing. WIth many modules, all your needs will be covered with ease. Centralpoint has a lot to offer. I was exploring their site and there was this banner that said “modular so anyone can build”. After using this program for 5+ years now, it’s so true. You can move the module fields anywhere you want. The functions such as print, comment, rate, etc, are done as standard scripts so you just paste it where you want it.

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  10. 460

    I feel like I’m in an Mac v. PC comments thread, here….

    But most commenters’ arguments center around what’s best for development — all well and good for us developers. After the site is launched and your contract ends, who’s updating the site on a daily basis? Our university had to re-migrate the entire site two years later because we couldn’t train anyone on the CMS — it was too difficult to use for non-techies. The one we have now is great, WYSIWYG interface, easily customizable and extensible templates, the list goes on, but everyday users STILL have a hard time updating content (most have never peeked into code view and wouldn’t even know what a “tag” is for). That means as IT staff, I often have to troubleshoot things like how to copy and paste, or insert a photograph.

    I’m sure this is why WP has gained ground. It’s not what we use here, but I know several small business owners and friends who use it, and friends who build sites with it. WP site owners can happily update their sites several times per day thanks to a thoughtful developer who’s set up easy and foolproof systems for them to do so.

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  11. 511

    I really like Centralpoint for its document manager. It’s easily managed and I can find it within my site and I’m also able to search by taxonomy types. This specific module centralizes the management of media across different audience types and sites. Pretty cool. It really gives you control over all the current and archived documents. Using the taxonomy types for this module help manage your records easily. As far as site visitors, using those types allows them to ‘find’ the records easily as well. I know that this program has a lot of other modules which I have yet to monkey around in. So far, I’m very impressed. It’s been a smooth transition from me previous CMS program. I like Centralpoint by Oxcyon a whole lot better.

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  12. 562

    After the few CMS programs I’ve tried not being able to provide me with everything I need and on top of that, provide me those things with ease, I was weary about trying yet another program. I began to do my research and came across some positives reviews about Centralpoint by Oxcyon. I think there’s always some positive reviews about every program out there, so I took it further and called their references. Those were all positive too. I then gave it a shot. I couldn’t be happier. So far, I have no complaints whatsoever.
    Something that struck me as really neat is the text broadcasting module(just one module out of many, many more). What it does is give you the ability to send emails or text alerts to your users cell phone. You can even go as far as personalizing those texts. Of course they have the option to “opt out” but you can still see how many of those messages were opened and by whom. I think in today’s technology driven world, it’s a good tactic to advertise and inform the customers about new things happening such as promotions and deals.

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  13. 613

    I guess it comes down to what you are used to. If you have spent two years learning all there is to do with WordPress without learning Drupal or Joomla then you are hardly likely to find the advantages in other CMSs. I have used Joomla a little and found it really horrible, I have used WordPress somewhat and can most definitely understand why it has the market share and I have climbed the steep Drupal learning curve. I can’t imagine building a site in WordPress now because although the user interface seems logical to begin with, the drupal architecture is more logical in the long run. Its the old ‘windows/unix’ debate. Which is easier -click, click, click, right click, type, click, right click type…or just learn how to use the frickin command line.

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  14. 664

    If I had to point in any direction regarding what CMS program to use, I’d say to go for Centralpoint. I have used countless of CMS programs in my time. Perhaps there’s no such thing as the ‘best’ program, because every person has different needs. However, Centralpoint by Oxcyon is my favorite. I believe that it will cater to any need or want you have with a CMS program. You also don’t need IT training to get around in it, either. The modules provided within the program are useful and will end up saving you a lot of time and effort. To name a few of my favorite modules, there’s microsite building, E-commerce, business intelligence an publishing modules. Definitely give this program a shot.

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  15. 715

    I don’t think WordPress is the easiest to set up. I would recommend Quickersite.com. I searched for some time before I used it. It’s powerful for a decent pro looking site, but I’m probably going to switch due to lack of plugins for more functionality.

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  16. 766

    Rafael Caceres

    May 13, 2013 2:40 pm

    First, I don’t use wordpress for about 6 years, so I’m really outdated. I have some questions.

    In past 3 years, drupal really grow up as an enterprise CMS/Framework. That’s a lot of distributions to several needs. Recently we create a distribution for travel product to a client in less then 1 day. It’s easy to build wordpress distros?

    Now drupal has an distribution to make distributions. With this distro (panel’s based), the content creator can make pages just picking a layout and drad’n’drop content.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hygwi-iKWQ

    WordPress has drag’n’drop page creation?

    And how about changing layout without any CSS?
    http://sweaver.customsource.be/ (login as demo/demo)

    Drupal distros is app’s based, so we can get and app server and distribute features online. WordPress have something like that?

    How about wordpress deployment? Is there some configuration manager that can be versioned?

    Well, to finish my 2 cents, the “easy to use” CMS should be focused on the content editor, not on developers.

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  17. 817

    There is no single factor on which you judge a CMS Platform. It’s like choosing a car and comparing the Engine, Handling, Safety, Features, Design, Price & 100 other things.

    But if you consider the following features and try to choose the best CMS with highest possible points – WordPress beats every other CMS Platform in market by high margin.

    #1) Easiest to use ( the best part of WP )
    #2) Highly customizable ( post, page, custom field type – everything works nicely )
    #3) Design customization ( amazing & beautiful – check themeforest.net )
    #4) Adding functionality ( hundreds of thousands of Plug-ins can do the job )
    #5) Speed ( never slows down – it depends on your Host )
    #6) Massive Data Volume ( wordpress.com runs with MILLIONS of pages, so it’s not the CMS – it’s the quality of host & your connection speed )
    #7) Customization ( corporate website, directory, portal, eCommerce, gallery, blog, social network, affiliate platform, forum or virtually anything is possible…! )

    I can only laugh on guys who say that it can’t handle large volume of data and it’s only good for 4 or 5 page websites. They simply don’t know how powerful & highly customizable WordPress is.

    It doesn’t mean Drupal or Joomla is not good – but considering all the above factors WordPress is the #1 & most obvious choice.

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    • 868

      @Malik Merchant
      concerning #6: while your server specs (cpu, ram and disk i/o) do play a large role… there is something to be said for a) loading 30mb of php for every request, b) poorly optimised sql queries.

      concerning #7: while you might be able to shoehorn wordpress into doing something other than date based entries, it won’t excel at the workflow.

      To be honest, if I wanted a blog with a custom theme for a client, I’d sign them up to wordpress.com and pay for a custom theme. My time is too precious to be wasting on crappy shared hosting or installing wordpress and the related database. Just let the guys at wordpress.com handle it.

      For anything else where you’ll be installing and managing a server and a database.. you use Django and Amazon Ec2.

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  18. 919

    ” It’s easy enough that a 60-year-old IT employee can set up a company CMS without losing face for not being up to date on the newest technology”

    Another example of everyday ageism. It’s easy enough that anyone who’s not up to date can set it up. Age has nothing to do with it. You wouldn’t say it’s easy enough for a woman to setup (please tell me you wouldn’t).

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  19. 970

    I realize this post is not quite fresh, but can’t help putting my five cent in:)
    First – “anyone who says that WordPress isn’t a “real” CMS is smoking something strong” – I love how you put it, Jason, and love your style. Your post is really engaging and pleasantly different from traditional ‘vs posts’ that compare features and tech details.

    Still, there’s one thing I am not getting – what exactly type of WordPress are you talking about? There’s data on the .com version as well as self hosted WP – but they’re totally different. While wp.com is just a blogging resource, wp.org is much more than that. Plus, evidently you refer to self-hosted Joomla ( which actually is the only version), and self hosted Drupal, so I’d stick to standalone WordPress as well here…

    Last, but not least – in most cases, discussions which CMS is best turn into heated debates alike football fans attacks. But it’s not about the type of software you’re using or the brand (and I’m nowhere near to being first to state this), it’s about the purpose, the goals and the most suitable tool for developing your site. Period.
    I recently switched my own Joomla site over to WordPress when I decided to change the whole concept, and never regretted it (btw, used this plugin:http://wordpress.org/plugins/cms2cms-joomla-to-wp-migration/)

    In my experience, I build websites for clients on various CMS platforms, and happened to persuade them use this or that tool as it will be better fit than the one they preferred (even if it confronted my own preferences).
    So, WordPress caters for the biggest niche now, but who knows what it’s going to be like in the future..

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  20. 1021

    drupal is hard to learn, but once mastered it can easily beat to any other cms in every aspect. for example, if the writer is drupal CMS builder ,he wont use jpg image in market share article to represent graphical information, he would rather used graphical module in drupal to show dynamic way just like google analytics rather than simple jpg image created in photoshop.

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  21. 1072

    Missing in this excellent discussion is the interaction between designer and developer on a team in a web design firm. There seems to be consensus that Drupal appeals to geek-ier developers. But what about the designers who work in a team with a developer to DESIGN a website that will have the kind of consistent visual design, clear information hierarachy, and clean html that enables the DESIGNER to do her job well?

    In my limited experience, Drupal developers seem to be very stubborn in the way in which they want to set up and install a Drupal site. Maybe there are ways to make the interaction between design and development smoother in terms of how the developer uses Drupal. Maybe only some Drupal developers have that level of knowledge.

    If they don’t, I find it much easier to work with a WP install to implement a sound functional visual design and UI than I do working with a Drupal developer. It would be interesting to hear from other designers who team with developers on how they would compare the ease of being able to design well with Drupal vs WordPress when they are not also the developers.

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  22. 1123

    this is bullshit for one reason. wordpress was popular because it was good blog. that’s all the bloggers cared about. once it became a cms, what are the bloggers going to do with those extra features? it’s not like they need them or want them, since they didn’t need them or want them in the past. it’s not like they could handle the extra robust features of the cms parts of the code, since they couldn’t handle it in the other cms’s (for those that did try other cms’s), and for the one’s that didn’t try other cms’s, they didn’t care about the cms features, so there really wasn’t a need for wp to attach cms capability. and finally, wp went from specializing in blog to being an all-in-one solution, which is what they faulted the other cms’s for being, so essentially they became like the enemy/competition.

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  23. 1174

    rant, part 2… i don’t care that WordPress became a CMS then took CMS crown, i’m still going to use Joomla. furthermore, the ease of use argument just means there are tons of stupid and lazy people out there. just like the ease of use (and the “it just works”) argument for iPhones. tons of idiots that don’t want to fiddle around/dick around with settings and what-not. well, guess what…….Android blew up and surpassed iOS. how do you like them apples? now Apple and Microsoft have to sue Google because that’s the only place they can compete is in court. anyway back to the CMS topic….i’m still going to be loyal to Joomla just like i have been with Android.

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  24. 1225

    Does WordPress even support 1 of the following Joomla features out of the box?:

    1) i18n support out of the box
    In wordpress – would you really argue that gettext statements like: printf( _n( ‘We deleted one spam message.’, ‘We deleted %d spam messages.’, $count, ‘my-text-domain’ ), $count ); is “easy and intuitive for non techie users” that wish to translate their content?

    2) Responsive (mobile-friendly) design out of the box
    Finding and installing custom templates to accommodate your needs is not considered “out of the box”.

    3) 2 factor authentication out of the box.
    Again: Choosing amongst of myriad of wordpress plugins to enable 2 factor authentication, possibly requiring various configurations – is not considered “out of the box”

    4) Fine-grain ACL for every aspect of your site out of the box.
    Ref wordpress.org: “WP doesn’t currently have a roles-based system”

    5) Easily override any system functionality out of the box
    The architecture of wordpress does not adhere to logic which allows overrides in a similar intuitive approach for every aspect of functionality.

    Just to mention a few..

    Of course I would agree that wordpress is also easy to use if your main goal is to have a small set of common requirements, and getting things up and running in a hurry.

    I would argue that a default Joomla installation is AT LEAST as straight forward – and if your goal is to meet a set of custom client requirements, and endorsing them in a way that you could easily upgrade (at the push of a button) without having to modify anything after a core upgrade – Joomla is a clear favourite. I use both – but as clients requirements often tend to escalate, I seem to always find it easier in the end to use Joomla.

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    Can I simply just say what a comfort to find someone who truly knows what they are talking about on the internet. You definitely understand how to bring a problem to light and make it important. More people should check this out and understand this side of the story. I was surprised you aren’t more popular because you most certainly possess the gift.

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    Hi Guys,
    This post seem to be a bit outdated now. I wrote a quite complete comparison last night

    http://www.designwall.com/blog/wordpress-as-a-cms-a-side-by-side-comparison-with-joomla-drupal

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    Sweet site, super pattern, rattling clean and use friendly.

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    “When I want to understand how popular something is, one of the first places I go to is Google Trends. Based on WordPress’ market share, I expected to find that it is searched for about five times as often as Joomla and about nine times as often as Drupal.”

    Don’t know if you can assume every search is related to an adoption decision. They could be support searches. I probably did 50 help searches today alone about Drupal.

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    Actually, WordPress took the crown from Joomla, and not from Drupal. Drupal’s usage (because of its complexity) is far lower than that of WordPress and Joomla and this was always the case.

    By the way, extremely large websites favor Drupal over Joomla and WordPress.

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    I have a number of clients, initially we developed client sites with Joomla but after having so much hassle trying to get the sites working and the plugins working we decided to use something else…and that was WordPress. We’ve had no issues with the sites or the plugins. WordPress just works. We wish we’d used that from the start for all our clients. Seriously, Joomla is terrible. Use WordPress, please just use it – I wanted to save someone a LOT of hassle – stay clear of Joomla. It sucks.

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